Re: found what I believe are a few vrc drum pickup heads too bad photos don't post here interested parties,can email

2018-05-12 Thread Ed Sharpe via cctalk
not these heads. Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Saturday, May 12, 2018 Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: My guess was MADRE or NRL: https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Over-the-horizon_radar The timing would be right. Acoustic delay lines served the same purpose, but you couldn't

More ancient memory

2018-05-12 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
I found this interesting article: http://pichotjm.free.fr/DisplayDL/DisplayDLus.html that discusses an ASCII video terminal from about 1970 that employs a bunch of PAL TV 64 usec. piezo delay devices as a way to reduce cost. --Chuck

Re: Restoring a PC Server 500 P/390

2018-05-12 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 05/12/2018 05:07 PM, Dave Wade via cctalk wrote: I was so unsure of what I was doing that I haven't blogged, twittered, or even Facebooked And here I went and asked you to air dirty laundry. — I'm sorry. But I am grateful that you did so. :-) I did find it an interesting read, and

RE: Restoring a PC Server 500 P/390

2018-05-12 Thread Dave Wade via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Grant Taylor via > cctalk > Sent: 12 May 2018 19:39 > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Restoring a PC Server 500 P/390 > > On 05/12/2018 05:32 AM, Dave Wade via cctalk wrote: > > I am rebuilding a

Re: Next 'stack' of computers to go, IBM p7's - not classics this time

2018-05-12 Thread Pete Lancashire via cctalk
And I almost bid on the 2 CEC p770's until I looked at the power consumption the way I had them configured. 768 GB RAM and I think 24 cores, I would have had to add a new circuit to the room. On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 8:46 AM, Mazzini Alessandro wrote: > 48.x KG for the rack

Re: found what I believe are a few vrc drum pickup heads too bad photos don't post here interested parties,can email

2018-05-12 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
My guess was MADRE or NRL: https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Over-the-horizon_radar The timing would be right. Acoustic delay lines served the same purpose, but you couldn't have a mercury delay line in an airplane, practically speaking. --Chuck

Re: found what I believe are a few vrc drum pickup heads too bad photos don't post here interested parties,can email

2018-05-12 Thread Ed Sharpe via cctalk
vrc get pro. control hpt Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Saturday, May 12, 2018 Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: Head-per-track drums were used on airborne radar setups as a non-computer use. John Meshna used to advertise military surplus ones, complete with 400Hz spindle

Re: found what I believe are a few vrc drum pickup heads too bad photos don't post here interested parties,can email

2018-05-12 Thread Ed Sharpe via cctalk
these probably get proc control vec drums Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Saturday, May 12, 2018 Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: Head-per-track drums were used on airborne radar setups as a non-computer use. John Meshna used to advertise military surplus ones, complete with

Re: found what I believe are a few vrc drum pickup heads too bad photos don't post here interested parties,can email

2018-05-12 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
Head-per-track drums were used on airborne radar setups as a non-computer use. John Meshna used to advertise military surplus ones, complete with 400Hz spindle motor. I was tempted at the time to get one, but was warned that the surplus ones are rarely functional. --Chuck

found what I believe are a few vrc drum pickup heads too bad photos don't post here interested parties,can email

2018-05-12 Thread Ed Sharpe via cctalk
found what I believe are a few vrc drum pickup heads too bad photos don't post here interested parties,can email Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Saturday, May 12, 2018 ben via cctalk wrote: On 5/11/2018 5:11 AM, Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote: > On Thu, May 10, 2018 at

found what I believe are a few vrc drum pickup heads too bad photos don't post here interested parties,can email

2018-05-12 Thread Ed Sharpe via cctalk
found what I believe are a few vrc drum pickup heads too bad photos don't post here interested parties,can email Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Saturday, May 12, 2018 ben via cctalk wrote: On 5/11/2018 5:11 AM, Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote: > On Thu, May 10, 2018 at

Re: how fast were drum memories?

2018-05-12 Thread ben via cctalk
On 5/11/2018 5:11 AM, Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote: On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 01:53:12PM -0600, ben via cctalk wrote: [...] Can not be slower than modern computers, It takes 5 minutes for my mail program to load under windows and grab new mail. And yet computer performance was perfectly

Re: Looking for info on Motorola 4015 chip

2018-05-12 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2018-May-12, at 11:03 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > Hey, all, the RK11-D contoller for the PDP-11 uses Motorola 4015 MSI chips on > one of the boards (M7254), but I can't find out anything about them. Google > didn't turn anything up, and the appendix in the RK11-D Maintenance Manual >

Re: Zenith Z-90 startup

2018-05-12 Thread Mister PDP via cctalk
Hello, I have had this issue with a number of H/Z89s I have. The terminal board and the logic board are two separate systems, so it seems to be common for the logic board to go down while the terminal board keeps working. I would check voltages on the logic board, then take it out of look for

Re: Looking for info on Motorola 4015 chip

2018-05-12 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
page 242 On 5/12/18 11:37 AM, Jerry Weiss via cctalk wrote2 > >> On May 12, 2018, at 1:03 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> Hey, all, the RK11-D contoller for the PDP-11 uses Motorola 4015 MSI chips on >> one of the boards (M7254), but I can't find out anything

Re: Looking for info on Motorola 4015 chip

2018-05-12 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 5/12/18 11:36 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > same as the 7475 the direct replacement table lies. it's quite different than a 7475

Re: Restoring a PC Server 500 P/390

2018-05-12 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 05/12/2018 05:32 AM, Dave Wade via cctalk wrote: I am rebuilding a Microchannel server with a P/390 card. Will you be chronicling this process anywhere? I'd like to observe from a distance. Blog / Twitter / other? -- Grant. . . . unix || die

Re: Looking for info on Motorola 4015 chip

2018-05-12 Thread Jerry Weiss via cctalk
> On May 12, 2018, at 1:03 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk > wrote: > > Hey, all, the RK11-D contoller for the PDP-11 uses Motorola 4015 MSI chips on > one of the boards (M7254), but I can't find out anything about them. Google > didn't turn anything up, and the appendix in

Re: Looking for info on Motorola 4015 chip

2018-05-12 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
It's in the 1971 moto ttl data book page 37 same as the 7475 On 5/12/18 11:03 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > Hey, all, the RK11-D contoller for the PDP-11 uses Motorola 4015 MSI chips on > one of the boards (M7254), but I can't find out anything about them. Google > didn't turn anything

Zenith Z-90 startup

2018-05-12 Thread Jules Richardson via cctalk
Any Zenith Z-90 owners out there (which appears to be the same thing as a Z-89 / Heath H89, but with a DD soft-sectored disk controller)? I was given one up a couple of days ago which isn't giving the expected "H:" prompt at power-on - but it *does* give a blinking cursor, and hitting

RE: Restoring a PC Server 500 P/390

2018-05-12 Thread Dave Wade via cctalk
Folks, Can I say thanks to the folks that helped me "off list". I have found that if I use the latest version of the P390 support software it doesn't need Communications Manager. Dave From: Dave Wade Sent: 12 May 2018 12:33 To: General Discussion: On-Topic and

Looking for info on Motorola 4015 chip

2018-05-12 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
Hey, all, the RK11-D contoller for the PDP-11 uses Motorola 4015 MSI chips on one of the boards (M7254), but I can't find out anything about them. Google didn't turn anything up, and the appendix in the RK11-D Maintenance Manual that has info about 'all' the MSI chips used in the RK11-D doesn't

R: Next 'stack' of computers to go, IBM p7's - not classics this time

2018-05-12 Thread Mazzini Alessandro via cctalk
48.x KG for the rack version, according to the redbook. Reminds me of the time I fell into an open traphole with a portable AS/400 in hand. The concrete chipped... the AS didn't have even a scratch in the paint -Messaggio originale- Da: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] Per

Re: Next 'stack' of computers to go, IBM p7's - not classics this time

2018-05-12 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Pete Lancashire > Pak Mail is not cheap Actually, since they buy 'in bulk' from carriers, they are surprisingly reasonable; their quote to ship an H960 rack from Arizona to me was less than I was quoted by some carriers. Noel

Re: Next 'stack' of computers to go, IBM p7's - not classics this time

2018-05-12 Thread Pete Lancashire via cctalk
I was asked about configuration. Everything nowadays is a bit foggy but one of the p720 s I had converted to a split back plane and was running it with a pair of VIO serves it is also setup for Enterprise VM. It also has fiber cards to go to a SAN The other was a standalone DR that's the one

Re: Next 'stack' of computers to go, IBM p7's - not classics this time

2018-05-12 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Yvan Janssens > ... > I'm located at the other side of the planet. > Would PakMail work for that as well? Pakmail can _send_ to most countries (they can only do _pickups_ in the US and Canada, that I know of), but of course sending a large object a long way

Re: Next 'stack' of computers to go, IBM p7's - not classics this time

2018-05-12 Thread Pete Lancashire via cctalk
Noel is right there is Pak Mail. But Pak Mail is not cheap and these suckers weight a lot my guest is stack is about 300 lbs On Sat, May 12, 2018, 6:28 AM Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > > From: Pete Lancashire > > > NO PACKING OR SHIPPING, must be local pickup.

Re: Next 'stack' of computers to go, IBM p7's - not classics this time

2018-05-12 Thread Yvan Janssens via cctalk
I am quite interested in one of them, but I’m located at the other side of the planet. Would PakMail work for that as well? On Sat, 12 May 2018 at 14:28, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > > From: Pete Lancashire > > > NO PACKING OR SHIPPING, must be local pickup. >

Re: Next 'stack' of computers to go, IBM p7's - not classics this time

2018-05-12 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Pete Lancashire > NO PACKING OR SHIPPING, must be local pickup. Just a reminded to everyone; most PakMail franchises are prepared to go somewhere off-site, pick items up where they sit, and then pack them; I've used this service several times for 'pick up only' items.

Next 'stack' of computers to go, IBM p7's - not classics this time

2018-05-12 Thread Pete Lancashire via cctalk
This time not so 'classic' My last job was maintaining IBM p7's and eventually p8's. One thing I started was putting together a home setup. But like all the other projects the gear has become redundant to me. The 'stack' consists of 2 each IBM p720's, a CR6 HMC, and a KVM drawer. The p720 do

Restoring a PC Server 500 P/390

2018-05-12 Thread Dave Wade via cctalk
Folks, I am rebuilding a Microchannel server with a P/390 card. It must have come with a licence for OS/2 Communications Manager as its required to get the P390 working but despite having several boxes of CDs and Floppy Disks I can't find a copy of this software anywhere. If anyone has a copy