Re: Thicknet/10base5 Test Segment: The Cable is In!

2018-06-27 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
What an amazing conversation. Where else would anyone go to get such an animated and in depth discussion on the finest details of the theory and practice of installing thickwire ethernet! Are we geeks or what :-) Regards, Peter Coghlan.

Re: IBM junk

2018-06-27 Thread Donald via cctalk
The whole collection went to Computer Museum of America in Roswell, GA https://computermuseumofamerica.org/

Re: Thicknet/10base5 Test Segment: The Cable is In!

2018-06-27 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> the AMP coring tool ... doesn't screw in though ... I don't know if this > is consistent with the original 3 mbit Ethernet, as I've never worked > with that. I was speaking of the gear used on the 3 Mbit. I don't recall the 10 Mbit stuff at all I have this vague memory that the 3

Re: Thicknet/10base5 Test Segment: The Cable is In! - termination

2018-06-27 Thread Peter Sjoberg via cctalk
On 2018-06-26 08:02 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > There clearly is confusion about what terminators are and how they work. > It's all perfectly straightforward elementary classic E & M, and any halfway > decent RF theory textbook will make things clear. Even a source as > elementary as t

Re: Thicknet/10base5 Test Segment: The Cable is In!

2018-06-27 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jun 26, 2018, at 10:13 PM, Jon Elson via cctalk > wrote: > > On 06/26/2018 06:20 PM, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote: >> On 06/26/2018 03:15 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: I can only guess that having a terminator too close interferes with or weakens the signal too much in some

Re: Thicknet/10base5 Test Segment: The Cable is In!

2018-06-27 Thread Eric Smith via cctalk
On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 8:13 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > On 06/26/2018 06:20 PM, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote: > >> On 06/26/2018 03:15 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: >> >>> I can only guess that having a terminator too close interferes with or weakens the signal too much in some way. >>>

Re: Thicknet/10base5 Test Segment: The Cable is In!

2018-06-27 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jun 27, 2018, at 12:36 PM, Eric Smith via cctalk > wrote: > > Collision detection was the reason (or at least _a_ reason) why the spacing > of taps on the 10BASE-5 "thick" Ethernet cable was required to be an exact > multiple of 2.5m. It was never clear to me why this was not also a > re

Re: Thicknet/10base5 Test Segment: The Cable is In!

2018-06-27 Thread Eric Smith via cctalk
On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 10:59 AM, Paul Koning wrote: > > On Jun 27, 2018, at 12:36 PM, Eric Smith via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > Collision detection was the reason (or at least _a_ reason) why the > spacing > > of taps on the 10BASE-5 "thick" Ethernet cable was required to be an

Re: Thicknet/10base5 Test Segment: The Cable is In!

2018-06-27 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jun 27, 2018, at 1:45 PM, Eric Smith wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 10:59 AM, Paul Koning wrote: > > On Jun 27, 2018, at 12:36 PM, Eric Smith via cctalk > > wrote: > > Collision detection was the reason (or at least _a_ reason) why the spacing > > of taps on the 10BASE-5 "thick" Et

Re: Thicknet/10base5 Test Segment: The Cable is In!

2018-06-27 Thread Eric Smith via cctalk
On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 12:39 PM, Paul Koning wrote: > This reminds me of a research project done at DEC that at one point was > discussed as a possible product but didn't happen: an Ethernet segment > mapping device. It was called "packet voltmeter". The idea was that you'd > have one at each

Re: Thicknet/10base5 Test Segment: The Cable is In!

2018-06-27 Thread Antonio Carlini via cctalk
On 27/06/18 02:56, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: So where did the "leave extra line before the terminator" came from? No idea. But on thickwire the taps were all supposed to be made at specifically marked positions (for the reason given earlier). Perhaps someone (incorrectly) thought that t

Re: Thicknet/10base5 Test Segment: The Cable is In!

2018-06-27 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 06/27/2018 04:19 PM, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote: > No idea. But on thickwire the taps were all supposed to be made at > specifically marked positions (for the reason given earlier). > Perhaps someone (incorrectly) thought that the terminator should also be > at such a position and so a te