Re: 8 inch floppies, decaying

2018-07-12 Thread David C. Jenner via cctalk
Would Chuck's temperature and Al's oven be appropriate for old magtapes, too? On 7/11/18 9:10 AM, Al Kossow via cctech wrote: On 7/11/18 8:57 AM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote: Be wary though, domestic ovens apparently fluctuate wildly. Use a food dehydrator this is the unit I use for QIC

Re: An historical nit about FDDs

2018-07-12 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 07/12/2018 01:40 PM, Paul Berger via cctalk wrote: IBM created the 8" diskette as an inexpensive and reliable means of loading microcode and shipped the first read only drives in 1971. I am quite certain the original FDD on the 370/168 used a pair of solenoid coils to ratchet the head in

Re: Anyone have a HALstation 300 install CD?

2018-07-12 Thread dwight via cctalk
Hi Al So, do you still need the CD? Also, my friend may have some manuals. I don't know if it is just Solaris stuff or HaL specific. Dwight From: cctalk on behalf of Al Kossow via cctalk Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 3:32:12 PM To: General Discussion:

Re: Anyone have a HALstation 300 install CD?

2018-07-12 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
> I also got a Sparcstation 5 running Solaris 2.6 and have had no luck getting > it to recognize the HAL boot drives. Operator error on my part, didn't know about "drvconfig" and "disks" since I've never used Solaris 2.x before.

Re: Anyone have a HALstation 300 install CD?

2018-07-12 Thread dwight via cctalk
I may be that the 300 required some special init sequence to the processor. It seems like I recall that it needed to do a scan to initialize a couple of values. This may make it not work on a Sparcstation 5. I don't recall if we shipped units with this problem or if they made a rev of the

Re: An historical nit about FDDs

2018-07-12 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 07/12/2018 11:40 AM, Paul Berger via cctalk wrote: > Because IBM never sold the drives themselves and the market impact of > the first Memorex drive may not have been really big, there was no real > standard so when Shugart Associates released the SA800 its proved to be > very popular and its

Re: SuperBrain

2018-07-12 Thread Diane Bruce via cctalk
On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 12:24:18PM -0400, Diane Bruce via cctalk wrote: > I've discovered a SuperBrain manual and two floppy disks in my basement. > Anyone want them? Free to a good home. It has been spoken for and now I feel bad now that I don't have more to give away to everyone who spoke up.

Re: An historical nit about FDDs

2018-07-12 Thread Paul Berger via cctalk
IBM created the 8" diskette as an inexpensive and reliable means of loading microcode and shipped the first read only drives in 1971. Memorex did ship a hard sectored R/W drive some time in 1972 likely because Alan Shugart had jumped ship from IBM to Memorex.  Some sources credit Shugart with

Re: SuperBrain

2018-07-12 Thread systems_glitch via cctalk
I'd be interested if Doug isn't. Thanks, Jonathan On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 12:50 PM, Bill Degnan via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Doug Crawford has one of these, he may want this. > > On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 12:24 PM Diane Bruce via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > I've

Re: SuperBrain

2018-07-12 Thread Kurt K via cctalk
I have a SuperBrain and have been looking for a manual and disks. I will take it if it is still available. > On Jul 12, 2018, at 11:24, Diane Bruce via cctalk > wrote: > > I've discovered a SuperBrain manual and two floppy disks in my basement. > Anyone want them? Free to a good home. > >

RE: An historical nit about FDDs

2018-07-12 Thread Tom Gardner via cctalk
Hi Chuck I agree it is easy to convert but I am surprised that a start-up would have the guts to change the "standard," whether it was Memorex, Potter or Century. I think before the 33FD Memorex was the market leader but I could be wrong. I've asked some SA founders the question. Does

Re: SuperBrain

2018-07-12 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
Doug Crawford has one of these, he may want this. On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 12:24 PM Diane Bruce via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > I've discovered a SuperBrain manual and two floppy disks in my basement. > Anyone want them? Free to a good home. > > Diane > -- > - d...@freebsd.org

CHWiki issues fixed

2018-07-12 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
The two main issues with the CHWiki (non-logged in users not seeing the most recent versions of pages, and image uploads not working) have been dealt with. Noel

SuperBrain

2018-07-12 Thread Diane Bruce via cctalk
I've discovered a SuperBrain manual and two floppy disks in my basement. Anyone want them? Free to a good home. Diane -- - d...@freebsd.org d...@db.net http://www.db.net/~db

Re: An historical nit about FDDs

2018-07-12 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> So far as near as I can tell the earliest FDDs (IBM 23FD Minnow and Memorex > 650/651) used Step In/Step Out. The IBM 33FD Igar used direct control of the > motor. Someone asked (you?) on one of my Youtube videos for more detail about the 23FD's stepping method, so I made a video covering the

Re: Null program (was Re: ITS DDT anecdote)

2018-07-12 Thread Hagstrom, Paul via cctalk
On Jul 12, 2018, at 10:20 AM, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote: > > That reminds me of one of my favorite computer trivia questions: > > What is the shortest useful CP/M program? Oh yes, the "infinitely profitable program." There was a write up of this that I came across some time ago. It's a

Null program (was Re: ITS DDT anecdote)

2018-07-12 Thread Eric Smith via cctalk
That reminds me of one of my favorite computer trivia questions: What is the shortest useful CP/M program?

Re: ITS DDT anecdote

2018-07-12 Thread Seth Morabito via cctalk
On Sun, Jun 17, 2018, at 5:52 PM, Seth Morabito wrote: > I'm trying desperately to remember an anecdote I remember reading not > too long ago about programming ITS using DDT. > [...] Replying to myself here, because I found it! Thanks to Rainer Joswig on Twitter for posting it. I will quote it

Re: 8 inch floppies, decaying

2018-07-12 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 at 20:05, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > Don't use pumice to clean off the pumas. (they won't like it) > Stick with well whale oil. Also great for rosewood, I hear. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google

Re: 8 inch floppies, decaying

2018-07-12 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Wed, 11 Jul 2018, Al Kossow wrote: On 7/11/18 2:21 AM, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote: I use Screen 99 for cleaning floppies MSDS https://store.comet.bg/download-file.php?id=16956 first ingredient listed; isopropyl alcohol Of course, somehow you need some "magic" in the stuff ;-) But