Hi Folks.
Here are the new items for July 17, 2018:
IBM PS/2 Model P70 386
Morrow Designs Micro Decision 1
ACCTON EtherCombo-32 Ethernet Card
Inmac SP-16 Serial-To-Parallel Converter
Apricorn EZ-GIG Hard Drive Update Kit
HP Series 80 Data Communications Pac
HP Series 80 BASIC Training Pac
On 07/17/2018 04:11 PM, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote:
When 3.5-inch floppy drives and hard drives were introduced, most used the
same 34-pin interfaces as their 5.25-inch counterparts.
On Tue, 17 Jul 2018, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
Can't say much about 3.5" hard drives (the only really
On 07/17/2018 04:11 PM, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote:
> When 3.5-inch floppy drives and hard drives were introduced, most used the
> same 34-pin interfaces as their 5.25-inch counterparts.
Can't say much about 3.5" hard drives (the only really early ones I've
seen are standard ST505-type 2-cable
On Tue, 17 Jul 2018, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote:
more history of it than you probably wanted:
I think that it is worth adding in the amusing anecdote of the name
"Seagate".
Alan Shugart as "Shugart Associates" changed 8" drives to what became the
industry standard form. And then created
On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 2:49 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> I conceptually get that the GoTEK can't go any faster than the Floppy's
> IDE (I thought floppy was a derivative of IDE.) bus can carry the data.
IDE came much later and isn't very similar to the floppy
Just a question, you’re not expecting the Gotek to whizz files onto the
Compaq are you?
On Tue, 17 Jul 2018, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
No, not as such.
It may be something modern emulating a floppy drive but it also has to
emulate the floppy drive rotational speed so it should be the
The HP9830 (1972) with it's ROM'ed BASIC works this way.
LIST produces a 'cleaned up' version of the source code.
On 2018-Jul-17, at 1:21 PM, Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk wrote:
> I should also mention that for the IBM S/23, once the BASIC program is
> entered, the original
> source is
On 07/17/2018 02:04 PM, Adrian Graham via cctalk wrote:
Just a question, you’re not expecting the Gotek to whizz files onto the
Compaq are you?
No, not as such.
It may be something modern emulating a floppy drive but it also has
to emulate the floppy drive rotational speed so it should be
I should also mention that for the IBM S/23, once the BASIC program is entered,
the original
source is discarded and only the tokenized code remains (comments are retained
as-is). The
LIST command runs a de-tokenizer and reconstructs the original source (well
close to it anyway).
TTFN - Guy
> On 17 Jul 2018, at 18:49, Grant Taylor via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> I don't know if the GoTEK is itself slow or if it's a result of what the
> computer was doing with it. — My only experience was trying to have a
> Compaq System Utility Partition back itself up to the GoTEK. The first
>
At 03:53 PM 7/14/2018, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
>On Sat, 14 Jul 2018, Ed Sharpe via cctalk wrote:
>>isn't the basic programs also stored in tokinized forms!?!?
>
>Yes.
>And the tokens are not the same between different brand implementations, or
>even between different versions, such
On 07/17/2018 10:49 AM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
> I'm sure there is a healthy dose of my ignorance of using the GoTEK.
> There was zero documentation that came with it. Online searches turn up
> a myriad of versions for the different models and it's all combining
> into a … cesspool seems
On 07/13/2018 03:12 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
Does anyone have any experience with the GoTEK SFR1M44-U100 floppy drive
emulator that reads ""images from a USB flash drive?
In case anyone is interested.
I have received my GoTEK and my initial impression is something between
neutral
On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 03:21:43PM +0200, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
[...]
> But then, when I look at school examination papers from 50 or 100 years
> before I was at school, *I'm* terrified. I feel like I am retarded, compared
> to schoolchildren of the turn of the 20th century who were
On 07/17/2018 07:21 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
…but they don't see them as particularly important.
Sadly, many of my generation and younger, don't understand that the
perception of importance often doesn't match the actual importance.
--
Grant. . . .
unix || die
On 07/17/2018 09:50 AM, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote:
> The latter, two single single-sided heads, each opposed by a pressure pad.
>
> Aside from the provision for extra fingerprints, a problem with this scheme
> was that they varied the rotation rate depending on the position of the
> head in
On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 4:58 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
> On the Lisa "Twiggy" diskettes, they made special provision to get more
>>> thumb prints.
>>>
>>
> On Mon, 16 Jul 2018, Eric Smith wrote:
>
>> I imagine you're aware of the actual reason for the two diametrically
>> opposing jacket cutouts for
On Tue, 17 Jul 2018 at 14:36, Noel Chiappa via cctalk
wrote:
>
> Yikes.
>
> Send them this:
>
> http://www.chiappa.net/~jnc/tech/sflovers/
*Chuckle*
I doubt they'd understand. This quiz was in the basement bar of a
youth hostel. I would guesstimate that these kids are all young enough
that
> From: Liam Proven
> one of the questions was about "the early days of the old-time
> internet, if you're old and you've been online forever."
> It was about Myspace.
Yikes.
Send them this:
http://www.chiappa.net/~jnc/tech/sflovers/
Noel
On Tue, 17 Jul 2018 at 03:41, Fred Cisin via cctalk
wrote:
>
> On 8", notch is write protect; no notch is write enabled.
> on 5.25", notch is write enabled; no notch is write protected.
> I think that that justifies calling the 8" a "write protect notch", and
> calling the 5.25" a "write enable
On Tue, 17 Jul 2018 at 00:17, Fred Cisin via cctalk
wrote:
>
> Or maybe it's the need for fingerprint oils on the media! 3.5" keeps
> fingers away more than 5.25 or 8". On the Lisa "Twiggy" diskettes, they
> made special provision to get more thumb prints.
*Chuckle*
Even if I never saw them,
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 at 17:31, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
wrote:
>
> There were a couple of versions of web-browser with OS that fit on a
> 1.44M floppy.
I know about the famous QNX Demo Disk. It's the only one I knew of, though.
http://toastytech.com/guis/qnxdemo.html
Although I guess I could,
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 at 20:23, Electronics Plus via cctalk
wrote:
>
> AEK II are here
> https://www.elecshopper.com/input-devices/keyboards/wired-keyboards/desktop-
> keyboards/apple-extended-keyboard-1.html
If any list members want an Apple Extended 1 in German QWERTZ layout,
I have one that is
I still don't know for sure which way to do 8 inch compared to 5.25. I usually
try to write both ways but soon forget which is which.
It won't do any good to tell me as I'll still forget. I just remember the 8
inch drives were different.
Another good quiz question is where the index hole was
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