Re: source for smt probe clip

2018-10-27 Thread Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk
On 10/27/2018 9:50 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 10/27/18 9:13 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: On 10/27/18 7:37 PM, Eric Smith wrote: EZ-Hook XKM thanks! https://sigrok.org/wiki/Probe_comparison is a breakdown. they note that Salae used to ship EZ-Hook but now ship a knock-off (no

Re: source for smt probe clip

2018-10-27 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 10/27/18 9:13 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > > On 10/27/18 7:37 PM, Eric Smith wrote: >> EZ-Hook XKM > > thanks! > > https://sigrok.org/wiki/Probe_comparison > > is a breakdown. they note that Salae used to ship EZ-Hook but now ship a > knock-off (no EZ-Hook name molded on) They

Re: source for smt probe clip

2018-10-27 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 10/27/18 7:37 PM, Eric Smith wrote: > EZ-Hook XKM thanks! https://sigrok.org/wiki/Probe_comparison is a breakdown. they note that Salae used to ship EZ-Hook but now ship a knock-off (no EZ-Hook name molded on)

Re: VAX Lisp, Macsyma, Maxima

2018-10-27 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
On 10/24/2018 4:07 PM, David Coolbear via cctalk wrote: Does anyone know if any of these are still available for OpenVMS VAX? This was posted on the Multics thread in February. Eric Swenson got the original-ish MACSYMA built and running in ITS. It's frankensteined together from a mix of

Re: source for smt probe clip

2018-10-27 Thread Eric Smith via cctalk
EZ-Hook XKM. I don't know whether they cloned the HP grabber probe, or supplied them to HP. They're expensive, so I usually buy the HP grabbers on eBay. Watch out. There are some Chinese clone grabbers that look like the XKM or HP, but aren't nearly as good. On Sat, Oct 27, 2018, 18:57 Al

Re: source for smt probe clip

2018-10-27 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 10/27/18 4:51 PM, corey cohen wrote: > >> On Oct 27, 2018, at 7:42 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk >> wrote: >> >>> On 10/27/18 4:19 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: >>> Has anyone seen a source for these clips? >>> >>> http://bitsavers.org/mysteries/salea_clip.JPG >>> >>> They come with the Salae

Re: source for smt probe clip

2018-10-27 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 10/27/18 4:19 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > Has anyone seen a source for these clips? > > http://bitsavers.org/mysteries/salea_clip.JPG > > They come with the Salae logic analyzer, and are like the HP logic analyzer > clips > in that the wire is detachable, instead of the common style

Re: i860, was : Re: modern stuff

2018-10-27 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
CHM has a rather large Intel Paragon system. I just recently snagged the software and manuals for it on eBay which we didn't have http://www.computerhistory.org/collections/catalog/X1644.99 and others http://www.computerhistory.org/collections/search/?s=intel+paragon

source for smt probe clip

2018-10-27 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
Has anyone seen a source for these clips? http://bitsavers.org/mysteries/salea_clip.JPG They come with the Salae logic analyzer, and are like the HP logic analyzer clips in that the wire is detachable, instead of the common style you can buy where you have to solder on a wire.

Re: Teletype cheap

2018-10-27 Thread steve shumaker via cctalk
Thanks all for the comments - as usual, this list offers up stuff you can't get with Google.  Bill,  you started a thought in your comment but didn't complete it - was it significant?:         "and if you can find away to transport the TTY with the..." Steve On 10/27/2018 6:46 AM, Bill

FP11-A Technical Manual

2018-10-27 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
So, I bought a copy of the FP11-A Technical Manual (EK-FP11A-TM), but when it got here, it was the 'Preliminary' version (-PRE), with type-written text, some of the figures are hand-drawn, etc. This manual does not seem to be generally available online, although at one point a copy was available

Re: modern stuff

2018-10-27 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 10/26/18 6:10 AM, Gordon Henderson via cctalk wrote: > However it was a royal PITA to code for although a 32-bit CPU, it would > read memory 64 bits at a time (actually 128 IIRC to satisfy the cache), > with half that 64-bit word being an instruction for the integer unit and > half for the

SUN keyboard for grabs

2018-10-27 Thread Diane Bruce via cctalk
I am tossing a pile of old PC keyboards but found one SUN type C keyboard. It's missing a few keys :-( but might interest anyone needing spare parts. Missing Find/Cut left keypad "."/Suppr on right keypad "c" key is missing one foot is missing I'll ship if you pay postage. - Diane -- -

RE: PinOut of DEC F11 Chips in a Professional 350

2018-10-27 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Patrick > Finnegan via cctalk > Sent: 27 October 2018 13:48 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > Subject: Re: PinOut of DEC F11 Chips in a Professional 350 > > On Sat, Oct 27,

Re: PDP-8 screws

2018-10-27 Thread Adrian Stoness via cctalk
also see em in the audio world for rack mounting equipmednt On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 11:10 AM Adrian Stoness wrote: > u can still get em see them on modern racks from time to time > > On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 11:07 AM Jon Elson via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > >> On 10/26/2018 09:19

Re: PDP-8 screws

2018-10-27 Thread Adrian Stoness via cctalk
u can still get em see them on modern racks from time to time On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 11:07 AM Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > On 10/26/2018 09:19 PM, Steve Malikoff via cctalk wrote: > > William said > >> One the original PDP-8 ("Straight 8"), the front panel has two aluminum > >> strips on the

Re: PDP-8 screws

2018-10-27 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 10/26/2018 09:19 PM, Steve Malikoff via cctalk wrote: William said One the original PDP-8 ("Straight 8"), the front panel has two aluminum strips on the sides, one on the left and one on the right. Each should have a pair of flathead countersunk screws, likwly Phillips head. Can someone

Re: Teletype cheap

2018-10-27 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018, 11:31 PM Tony Duell via cctalk wrote: > On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 3:38 AM steve shumaker via cctalk > wrote: > > > > OK, got it. Will be my first one. Now, how does one transport the > > thing? Does it easily come off the pedestal? Can it be laid on it's > > back?

i860, was : Re: modern stuff

2018-10-27 Thread emanuel stiebler via cctalk
On 2018-10-26 09:10, Gordon Henderson via cctalk wrote: > I worked for a company that made supercomputer boards out of the i860 at > one point - at the time (very early 90's) they were blindingly fast, > 40Mhz, 3 instructions per clock cycle which, since one was a floating > point multiply and

Re: PinOut of DEC F11 Chips in a Professional 350

2018-10-27 Thread Patrick Finnegan via cctalk
On Sat, Oct 27, 2018, 04:06 Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote: > > I have been tracing the source of the RESET, because as I have said it is > oscillating, and it seems to go through a *lot* of logic, and I haven't > fully traced the source of the oscillation yet. > Have you checked the PSU output?

Re: modern stuff

2018-10-27 Thread Gordon Henderson via cctalk
On Fri, 26 Oct 2018, emanuel stiebler via cctalk wrote: On 2018-10-25 14:48, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: While this was a failure on a spectacular level, it was by no means the only misstep by Intel. The i860 RISC CPU at one time was even being endorsed by BillG as a possible personal

Re: 70's computers

2018-10-27 Thread B M via cctalk
I believe I have a preliminary copy of Focal-11. See: http://iamvirtual.ca/collection/systems/mediadoc/mediadoc.html On Wed, Oct 24, 2018, 06:11 ED SHARPE via cctalk, wrote: > both will run focal... but I need focal 11 on

Re: Scan of Micro Peripherals Inc MPI 91/92 Product Manual Avail?

2018-10-27 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 1:21 AM Al Kossow via cctech wrote: > > > On 10/25/18 4:00 PM, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote: > > > If you need a sheet-fed duplex scanner for B-size, expect to spend a > pretty > > good chunk of change even for a used one. > > > > I've been through several million pages

RE: PinOut of DEC F11 Chips in a Professional 350

2018-10-27 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
Thanks Noel. According to the printset for the KDF11-A pin 23 is the RESET signal, which would make it the 3rd pin from the right at the top right of the CPU. The printset also showed a second chip with its RESET on pin 23 and I have confirmed that E151 and E152 have pin 23 tied together. So I am

Re: Scan of Micro Peripherals Inc MPI 91/92 Product Manual Avail?

2018-10-27 Thread jos via cctalk
On 26.10.18 01:16, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: On 10/25/18 4:00 PM, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote: If you need a sheet-fed duplex scanner for B-size, expect to spend a pretty good chunk of change even for a used one. I've been through several million pages with my Panasonic KV-3065CW duplex

Re: modern stuff - i860

2018-10-27 Thread emanuel stiebler via cctalk
On 2018-10-26 16:26, Randy Dawson wrote: > Two design wins I remember: > > TrueVision, the AT computer graphics people that did the TARGA video > boards had software to back the board sales up, a 3D animation package > TOPAS. > Beautiful, but dog slow even on the fastest 25MHz PCs at the time, so