Re: Bill Godbout R.I.P.

2018-11-12 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
I got to meet him a few times @ the San Mateo electronics swap meet.  It was the huge version before all had petered out into small events. He loved to auction off the good stuff, and would bring both Godbout branded and Compupro stuff.  The latter was as solidly tested and engineered of

Re: Font for DEC indicator panels

2018-11-12 Thread Steve Malikoff via cctalk
Guy said > Hmm, I posted to the list about this 3 hours ago, and it hasn't appeared yet. > Is there an extra vetting process for posts that include links to web sites? > I included various links to font searching sites, cleaned-up samples of the > DEC fonts > from my own scan (online) of a DEC

Re: Font for DEC indicator panels

2018-11-12 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
[Top posted to avoid trimming information that might be useful to many] IFF DEC used a commercial font, then it should be possible to find it. These panels do appear to be typeset using commercial fonts, and yes in theory, we can track those down. On Tue, 13 Nov 2018, Guy Dunphy via cctalk

RE: Font for DEC indicator panels

2018-11-12 Thread Rod G8DGR via cctalk
I have a large library of inlay panel pictures. I’m sure I did some drawings with text when I did the blank panels. (Just the holes for the lamps) I’ll have a look. If not I’ll match a font to a picture. Rod Smallwood Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Guy Dunphy via cctalk Sent: 13

Re: Font for DEC indicator panels

2018-11-12 Thread Guy Dunphy via cctalk
At 09:58 PM 12/11/2018 -0500, you wrote: >On 2018-11-12 9:51 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: >> [Top posted to avoid trimming information that might be useful to many] >> >> IFF DEC used a commercial font, then it should be possible to find it. >> >> But, it is extremely likely that they did

Re: Bill Godbout R.I.P.

2018-11-12 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
Best RAM cards of the early S-100 era through into the 1980's / Compupro era. b On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 8:38 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > >> Google has no mention. Yet. > > On Mon, 12 Nov 2018, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > > Bill's family confirms and has set up a GoFundMe page for his

Re: Font for DEC indicator panels

2018-11-12 Thread Toby Thain via cctalk
On 2018-11-12 9:51 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > [Top posted to avoid trimming information that might be useful to many] > > IFF DEC used a commercial font, then it should be possible to find it. > > But, it is extremely likely that they did NOT use a commercial font, and > either had their

Re: Font for DEC indicator panels

2018-11-12 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
[Top posted to avoid trimming information that might be useful to many] IFF DEC used a commercial font, then it should be possible to find it. But, it is extremely likely that they did NOT use a commercial font, and either had their graphics art people draw the characters as needed, or used

Re: Font for DEC indicator panels

2018-11-12 Thread Toby Thain via cctalk
On 2018-11-12 8:49 PM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > On 11/12/2018 04:14 PM, David Bridgham via cctalk wrote: >> On 11/12/18 5:04 PM, Paul Koning wrote: >> >>> The name of the font translates to "Bold Extended".  DIN 1451 is a >>> family of fonts, see Wikipedia.  You're looking at one of the

Re: Font for DEC indicator panels

2018-11-12 Thread Guy Dunphy via cctalk
Hi Noel, That site is a fine project. Here's another front panel image, of a PDP-8/S, from my restoration work on one (just starting.) http://everist.org/NobLog/20181104_PDP-8S.htm Specifically: http://everist.org/NobLog/pics/20181104/fascia_2000.jpg Feel free to use it. That image is a

Re: Font for DEC indicator panels

2018-11-12 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
I hadn't meant to send that message to the list, sorry, but since I did, here it is with Alte Haas Grotesk. http://pdp10.froghouse.org/qsic/inlay-rk11-f-altehaasgrotesk.pdf On Mon, 12 Nov 2018, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: Hmmm, that one DOES look closer to DEC panels that I remember. Surely

Re: Font for DEC indicator panels

2018-11-12 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 11/12/2018 04:14 PM, David Bridgham via cctalk wrote: On 11/12/18 5:04 PM, Paul Koning wrote: The name of the font translates to "Bold Extended". DIN 1451 is a family of fonts, see Wikipedia. You're looking at one of the members of the family, the bold wide one. It's not all that bold,

Re: Bill Godbout R.I.P.

2018-11-12 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
Google has no mention.  Yet. On Mon, 12 Nov 2018, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: Bill's family confirms and has set up a GoFundMe page for his wife and son: https://www.gofundme.com/godbouttuckcampfirerelieffund That is, indeed, truly tragic. -- Grumpy Ol' Fred

Re: Bill Godbout

2018-11-12 Thread js--- via cctalk
On 11/12/2018 7:56 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 11/12/18 1:39 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: Google has no mention. Yet. How can we confirm? Bill's family confirms and has set up a GoFundMe page for his wife and son: https://www.gofundme.com/godbouttuckcampfirerelieffund

Re: Bill Godbout

2018-11-12 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 11/12/18 1:39 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > Google has no mention.  Yet. > How can we confirm? Bill's family confirms and has set up a GoFundMe page for his wife and son: https://www.gofundme.com/godbouttuckcampfirerelieffund --Chuck

Re: Font for DEC indicator panels

2018-11-12 Thread Toby Thain via cctalk
On 2018-11-12 5:24 PM, Toby Thain via cctalk wrote: > On 2018-11-12 5:04 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: >> >> >>> On Nov 12, 2018, at 4:52 PM, David Bridgham via cctalk >>> wrote: >>> >>> > "DIN 1451 Fette Breitschrift 1936". That is probably the > font next to the knob on the right

Re: Font for DEC indicator panels

2018-11-12 Thread Toby Thain via cctalk
On 2018-11-12 5:04 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > > >> On Nov 12, 2018, at 4:52 PM, David Bridgham via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> "DIN 1451 Fette Breitschrift 1936". That is probably the font next to the knob on the right and the bit numbers above the switches. >>> >>> Yeah,

Re: Font for DEC indicator panels

2018-11-12 Thread David Bridgham via cctalk
On 11/12/18 5:04 PM, Paul Koning wrote: > The name of the font translates to "Bold Extended". DIN 1451 is a family of > fonts, see Wikipedia. You're looking at one of the members of the family, > the bold wide one. It's not all that bold, judging by the pictures; if you > need something

Re: Font for DEC indicator panels

2018-11-12 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Nov 12, 2018, at 4:52 PM, David Bridgham via cctalk > wrote: > > >>> "DIN 1451 Fette Breitschrift 1936". That is probably the >>> font next to the knob on the right and the bit numbers above the >>> switches. >> >> Yeah, that latter is the one we're looking for (mostly). > > > I

Re: Font for DEC indicator panels

2018-11-12 Thread David Bridgham via cctalk
> > "DIN 1451 Fette Breitschrift 1936". That is probably the > > font next to the knob on the right and the bit numbers above the > > switches. > > Yeah, that latter is the one we're looking for (mostly). I was able to download a version of that one that worked but I don't think I

Re: Bill Godbout

2018-11-12 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Mon, 12 Nov 2018, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: "drrt1...@gmail.com" posted on AFC this morning that Bill died in the Camp fire in Northern California on Thursday. Has anyone else heard about this? Google has no mention. Yet. How can we confirm? Hopefully, when they do find out, they will

Re: Font for DEC indicator panels

2018-11-12 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Nov 12, 2018, at 4:25 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk > wrote: > >> From: Jason T > >> According to my notes, for the VCFMW8 shirts ... I used DIN Next Pro >> Rounded Medium for the panel text, although the font I had in my work >> directory is "DIN 1451 Fette Breitschrift 1936". That is

Re: Font for DEC indicator panels

2018-11-12 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Jason T > According to my notes, for the VCFMW8 shirts ... I used DIN Next Pro > Rounded Medium for the panel text, although the font I had in my work > directory is "DIN 1451 Fette Breitschrift 1936". That is probably the > font next to the knob on the right and the

Re: Another IC I Can't Identify

2018-11-12 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2018-Nov-11, at 2:04 PM, Rob Jarratt wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Brent >> Hilpert via cctalk >> Sent: 11 November 2018 21:50 >> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts >> >> Subject: Re: Another IC I

Re: Font for DEC indicator panels

2018-11-12 Thread Toby Thain via cctalk
On 2018-11-12 3:04 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > So, anyone happen to know the font used in DEC's indicator panels: > > http://ana-3.lcs.mit.edu/~jnc/tech/DECIndicatorPanels.html > > or, at least, a very close match? > > For mockups we're doing, Dave B is using 'DejaVu Sans', but

Re: Font for DEC indicator panels

2018-11-12 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> We're just about settled on the format for the QSIC RKV11-F/RPV11-D > panels. PS: Here's the latest rev of our thinking: http://ana-3.lcs.mit.edu/~jnc/tech/pdp11/jpg/inlay-rk11-f3.pdf if anyone has any comments. (Since the format is entirely set by the FPGA, it's 'easy' to tweak

Re: Font for DEC indicator panels

2018-11-12 Thread Jason T via cctalk
On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 2:04 PM Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > > So, anyone happen to know the font used in DEC's indicator panels: > > http://ana-3.lcs.mit.edu/~jnc/tech/DECIndicatorPanels.html > > or, at least, a very close match? According to my notes, for the VCFMW8 shirts

Font for DEC indicator panels

2018-11-12 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
So, anyone happen to know the font used in DEC's indicator panels: http://ana-3.lcs.mit.edu/~jnc/tech/DECIndicatorPanels.html or, at least, a very close match? For mockups we're doing, Dave B is using 'DejaVu Sans', but that's not a really close match: the vertical bars are wider than in the

Re: IP address classes vs CIDR (was Re: Reviving ARPAnet)

2018-11-12 Thread Stefan Skoglund via cctalk
mån 2018-02-05 klockan 10:31 -0700 skrev Grant Taylor via cctalk: > On 01/18/2018 12:23 PM, Dennis Boone via cctalk wrote: > > You all talk about Proxy ARP in the past tense for some reason. :) > > You might find it entertaining to know that I was just talking with > colleagues that are

Re: DEC Alpha Bug Check Crash

2018-11-12 Thread Patrick Finnegan via cctalk
On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 12:22 PM Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > > On 11/11/2018 11:36 PM, Douglas Taylor via cctalk wrote: > > > > This is most likely correct. I re-installed the OS on a > > different SD card/SCSI2SD device and got a successful > > graphics boot up. Do SD cards drop bits or go

Re: Bill Godbout

2018-11-12 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
very  sad   Bill was  one of my  first   large purchasers  of   surplus   power cords...  a nice   guy  and always  paid  on time this is   very  sad. In a message dated 11/12/2018 10:25:25 AM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:   On 11/12/2018 10:35 AM, Al Kossow via

Re: Bill Godbout

2018-11-12 Thread Anders Nelson via cctalk
='[ -- Anders Nelson +1 (517) 775-6129 www.erogear.com On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 12:25 PM Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > On 11/12/2018 10:35 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > "drrt1...@gmail.com" posted on AFC this morning that Bill died in the > Camp fire in Northern California on

Re: Bill Godbout

2018-11-12 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 11/12/2018 10:35 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: "drrt1...@gmail.com" posted on AFC this morning that Bill died in the Camp fire in Northern California on Thursday. Has anyone else heard about this? WOW! Sad news! Jon

Re: VAX 9440

2018-11-12 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 11/12/2018 08:34 AM, Ethan via cctalk wrote: Some people are satisfied with the handheld vacuum desoldering irons, like the Hakko 808 (now replaced by Hakko FR-301). They're OK for some small I love my 808. Have used it heavily to re-cap arcade monitor chassis (15+) and all kinds of

Re: DEC Alpha Bug Check Crash

2018-11-12 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 11/11/2018 11:36 PM, Douglas Taylor via cctalk wrote: This is most likely correct. I re-installed the OS on a different SD card/SCSI2SD device and got a successful graphics boot up. Do SD cards drop bits or go bad? UGH! Yes, they can. It SHOULD cause a device parity error, but I

Bill Godbout

2018-11-12 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
"drrt1...@gmail.com" posted on AFC this morning that Bill died in the Camp fire in Northern California on Thursday. Has anyone else heard about this?

desoldering (was Re: VAX 9440)

2018-11-12 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 11/12/18 7:24 AM, W2HX via cctalk wrote: > Hot air setup is the next thing. > I was doing some board repair this weekend, and used a mix of Hakko 472 vacuum and hot air equipment. I was having trouble clearing the holes completely with the Hakko so I heated the board with a 1" hot air

Re: VAX 9440

2018-11-12 Thread W2HX via cctalk
plus one for the hakko 808. Love it! Never leave home without it! From: cctalk on behalf of Ethan via cctalk Sent: Monday, November 12, 2018 9:34 AM To: Eric Smith; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: VAX 9440 > > Some people

Re: DEC Alpha Bug Check Crash

2018-11-12 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Mon, 12 Nov 2018, Douglas Taylor wrote: This is most likely correct.  I re-installed the OS on a different SD card/SCSI2SD device and got a successful graphics boot up.  Do SD cards drop bits or go bad? Yes, very easily. That is why I absolutely dislike solutions based on SD cards (or on