Re: Storage for 1/2" open reel tape

2019-04-05 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 4/5/19 6:13 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > I had to re-thread the UNISERVO that is on display at CHM. I have to try > to find my pictures that I took. > > http://bitsavers.org/pdf/univac/magtape/PX899_Mechanical_Parts_of_UNISERVO_Apr58.pdf > > show it. > My guess on the vintage of these

Re: Storage for 1/2" open reel tape

2019-04-05 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
the other thing I had wondered about was how they kept metal tape from destroying the head. there is a spool of plastic tape that goes between the head and the tape On 4/5/19 6:13 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > > On 4/5/19 5:45 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > >> Univac had an

Re: Storage for 1/2" open reel tape

2019-04-05 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 4/5/19 5:45 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > Univac had an interesting setup for Uniservo tape drives--I see a lot of > reels with a short (maybe 6") "leader" with a hole spliced onto tapes. > I'm not sure how that worked I had to re-thread the UNISERVO that is on display at CHM. I have

Re: Storage for 1/2" open reel tape

2019-04-05 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 4/5/19 5:31 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > If this works, which is most of the time, it's a great time saver. As an > operator you just hang the reel on the spindle, hit "load" and walk away to > the next task. > > I think IBM may have originated this magic; several of the later DEC

Re: Storage for 1/2" open reel tape

2019-04-05 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Apr 5, 2019, at 7:15 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk > wrote: > >> ... >> But basically, just behind the "hook", there's a black plastic latch. When >> closed, it tensions the white band. >> https://www.electronicsurplus.it/open2b/var/products/27/92/0-d95b2a25-800.jpg > > ACK > > I'm

Re: Storage for 1/2" open reel tape

2019-04-05 Thread Charles Anthony via cctalk
On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 4:54 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > On 4/5/19 4:15 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > > > ACK > > > > I'm getting the mental impression that it's somewhat like a spring form > > pan. The latch opens and releases tension off of the strip that goes > > around the tape

Re: Storage for 1/2" open reel tape

2019-04-05 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 4/5/19 4:15 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > ACK > > I'm getting the mental impression that it's somewhat like a spring form > pan.  The latch opens and releases tension off of the strip that goes > around the tape reel.  When it's latched, it cinches against it.  When > it's unlatched,

Re: Yes there is a PDP 10 front panel and Kenbak on Ebay

2019-04-05 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
What I want to know is, how do front panels of historic computers so often get separated from the rest of the computer? Could be just storage problems. The main computer here, racks of stuff there, cables and panel there, and things get lost over time. The moosehead is still hanging on the

Re: Storage for 1/2" open reel tape

2019-04-05 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 4/5/19 4:44 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: The IRS facility photo used the IBM style; not flexible, but rather a two-part sliding rigid plastic arrangement. I think that the IRS also used a robotic "picker. I'd hazard a guess that the IRS acquired theirs from IBM. Even if they are

Raspberry Pi for vaxen turbochannel

2019-04-05 Thread Greg Stark via cctalk
I've had a plan to set up a raspberry Pi as the mopd and NFS server to bit my vaxstation for a while. To be a self contained demo I could probably fit it inside the vaxstation. One of the annoyances is that it would need another power cord and need a place to mount it inside. It occurs to me

Re: Storage for 1/2" open reel tape

2019-04-05 Thread Mike Loewen via cctalk
On Fri, 5 Apr 2019, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 4/5/19 2:58 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: On 4/5/19 3:20 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: See how each reel of tape hangs from a slot in a horizontal bar? Those white-and-black strips wrapped around the tapes are what I'm referring to

Re: Storage for 1/2" open reel tape

2019-04-05 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 4/5/19 2:58 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > On 4/5/19 3:20 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: >> See how each reel of tape hangs from a slot in a horizontal bar? Those >> white-and-black strips wrapped around the tapes are what I'm referring >> to as being deteriorated. > > How does that

Re: Yes there is a PDP 10 front panel and Kenbak on Ebay

2019-04-05 Thread ben via cctalk
On 4/5/2019 10:06 AM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: What I want to know is, how do front panels of historic computers so often get separated from the rest of the computer? Could be just storage problems. The main computer here, racks of stuff there, cables and panel there, and things get lost

Re: PDP-8: count number of set bits in a word

2019-04-05 Thread Phil Budne via cctalk
A general discussion of population count: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/8590432/when-to-use-parallel-counting-mit-hakmem-for-bitcount-when-memory-is-an-issue

Re: PDP-8: count number of set bits in a word

2019-04-05 Thread Guy Dunphy via cctalk
At 08:49 PM 5/04/2019 +, you wrote: >Hi Kyle, > >hat's a really interesting problem, and the government (NSA) wanted this badly >and done FAST. > >they asked Seymour Cray to create a specific instruction for this and they >called it 'population count' > >Anybody know the why and how it is

Re: Storage for 1/2" open reel tape

2019-04-05 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 4/5/19 3:20 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: See how each reel of tape hangs from a slot in a horizontal bar? Those white-and-black strips wrapped around the tapes are what I'm referring to as being deteriorated. How does that come off the reel? Does the reel slide out? Does it unlatch?

Re: Storage for 1/2" open reel tape

2019-04-05 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 4/5/19 1:49 PM, Ali via cctalk wrote: >> I hit on the idea of using 16mm move film plastic "cans". Much to my >> surprise, I found that there is still an active market for these >> things. > > Chuck, > > For the uneducated amongst us exactly what are you referring to? Are you > talking

Re: PDP-8: count number of set bits in a word

2019-04-05 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Apr 5, 2019, at 4:49 PM, Randy Dawson via cctalk > wrote: > > Hi Kyle, > > hat's a really interesting problem, and the government (NSA) wanted this > badly and done FAST. > > they asked Seymour Cray to create a specific instruction for this and they > called it 'population count' >

RE: Storage for 1/2" open reel tape

2019-04-05 Thread Ali via cctalk
> I hit on the idea of using 16mm move film plastic "cans". Much to my > surprise, I found that there is still an active market for these > things. Chuck, For the uneducated amongst us exactly what are you referring to? Are you talking about the plastic can where the tape sits in? Or the strap

Re: PDP-8: count number of set bits in a word

2019-04-05 Thread Randy Dawson via cctalk
Hi Kyle, hat's a really interesting problem, and the government (NSA) wanted this badly and done FAST. they asked Seymour Cray to create a specific instruction for this and they called it 'population count' Anybody know the why and how it is useful? I am deep in matrix math books and

Re: Yes there is a PDP 10 front panel and Kenbak on Ebay

2019-04-05 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 3:16 PM Mark Matlock via cctalk wrote: > Subject: Re: Yes there is a PDP 10 front panel and Kenbak on Ebay >The other thing that happened on PDP-11/70s was that if your system > was maintained by DEC, the field service group would want to install > the KY11-RE Remote

Re: Yes there is a PDP 10 front panel and Kenbak on Ebay

2019-04-05 Thread Mark Matlock via cctalk
Subject: Re: Yes there is a PDP 10 front panel and Kenbak on Ebay > > From: Guy Dunphy > > > What I want to know is, how do front panels of historic computers so > > often get separated from the rest of the computer? > The other thing that happened on PDP-11/70s was that if your

Re: PDP-8: count number of set bits in a word

2019-04-05 Thread Vincent Slyngstad via cctalk
From: Kyle Owen via cctalk: Friday, April 05, 2019 8:59 AM Just wondering if anyone has come up with a fast way to count the number of 1s in a word on a PDP-8. The obvious way is looping 12 times, rotating the word through the link or sign bit, incrementing a count based on the value of the link

Storage for 1/2" open reel tape

2019-04-05 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
I've noted earlier that the vinyl "hanger strips" for 1/2" magnetic tape have been degrading, becoming brittle and simply breaking away, sometimes in small particles. So I set off looking for a low-cost substitute--any hangers that I could rustle up would probably be on their last legs at this

More stuff looking for a good home

2019-04-05 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
Here's a list of some more stuff if anyone is interested in making reasonable offers. Probably the last I will have before my demise when my wife will likely send everything that's left to the skip. MODULE DescriptionQTY NUMBER M9202

Re: PDP-8: count number of set bits in a word

2019-04-05 Thread Anders Nelson via cctalk
I suppose you could test each nybble for zero, then equate a 16-element LUT on nybbles not zero? -- Anders Nelson +1 (517) 775-6129 www.erogear.com On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 11:59 AM Kyle Owen via cctalk wrote: > Just wondering if anyone has come up with a fast way to count the number of > 1s

Re: Yes there is a PDP 10 front panel and Kenbak on Ebay

2019-04-05 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
What I want to know is, how do front panels of historic computers so often get separated from the rest of the computer? The moosehead is still hanging on the wall. But, the backside of the moose is no longer on the other side of that wall.

PDP-8: count number of set bits in a word

2019-04-05 Thread Kyle Owen via cctalk
Just wondering if anyone has come up with a fast way to count the number of 1s in a word on a PDP-8. The obvious way is looping 12 times, rotating the word through the link or sign bit, incrementing a count based on the value of the link or sign. With a small lookup table, you can reduce the

Re: Yes there is a PDP 10 front panel and Kenbak on Ebay

2019-04-05 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 11:32 AM Noel Chiappa via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > From: Guy Dunphy > > > What I want to know is, how do front panels of historic computers so > > often get separated from the rest of the computer? > > > > Here's what probably happened: the

Re: Yes there is a PDP 10 front panel and Kenbak on Ebay

2019-04-05 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Guy Dunphy > What I want to know is, how do front panels of historic computers so > often get separated from the rest of the computer? I suspect it probably happened a while back, before the start of the vintage computer movement; you need to look at the decisions from the