Re: HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program is closing

2020-03-09 Thread Rod Smallwood via cctalk
On 10/03/2020 02:19, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: On Tue, 10 Mar 2020, Doug Jackson via cctalk wrote: So. At the end of the day there are three paths. 1.  Accept that HP doesn't give two hoots about hobbyists and patch the abandoned operating system to fix the problem. 2. Declare that we need

Re: HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program is closing

2020-03-09 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Tue, 10 Mar 2020, Doug Jackson via cctalk wrote: So. At the end of the day there are three paths. 1. Accept that HP doesn't give two hoots about hobbyists and patch the abandoned operating system to fix the problem. 2. Declare that we need to develop an open replacement. Or 3. Accept that

Re: HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program is closing

2020-03-09 Thread Doug Jackson via cctalk
So. At the end of the day there are three paths. 1. Accept that HP doesn't give two hoots about hobbyists and patch the abandoned operating system to fix the problem. 2. Declare that we need to develop an open replacement. Or 3. Accept that HP actually owns the rights to our VAX 11/785

Re: Any fun SunWindows/SunView stuff?

2020-03-09 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Mar 9, 2020, at 2:26 PM, Jason T via cctalk wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 2:19 PM Chris Hanson via cctalk > wrote: > >> Were there any fun SunView applications or hacks back in the day? >> >> Other than the demos, the only stuff I currently have is emacstool (built as >> part of emacs

Re: Any fun SunWindows/SunView stuff?

2020-03-09 Thread Jason T via cctalk
On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 2:19 PM Chris Hanson via cctalk wrote: > Were there any fun SunView applications or hacks back in the day? > > Other than the demos, the only stuff I currently have is emacstool (built as > part of emacs 18.59) and the PLATO client (which I haven’t actually built > yet).

Re: HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program is closing

2020-03-09 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Mar 9, 2020, at 1:01 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > > On 3/9/20 1:33 PM, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk wrote: >> On 3/9/2020 12:20 PM, Eric Smith wrote: >>> On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 4:32 PM John H. Reinhardt via cctalk >>> mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote: >>> >>> I would

Re: HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program is closing

2020-03-09 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
On Sun, Mar 08, 2020 at 03:21:27PM -0500, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk wrote: > IIRC there is about a two week wait from the time you get your member > number on Eisner until the number is active in the HPE database for the > Hobbyist license so you may have to wait a bit. With one of my

Re: HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program is closing

2020-03-09 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 3/9/20 1:33 PM, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk wrote: On 3/9/2020 12:20 PM, Eric Smith wrote: On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 4:32 PM John H. Reinhardt via cctalk mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote:     I would think that those that already have legal VAX PAKs/licenses could still run them. It's

Any fun SunWindows/SunView stuff?

2020-03-09 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
I have my Sun-4/110C set up and running SunOS 4.1.4. Were there any fun SunView applications or hacks back in the day? Other than the demos, the only stuff I currently have is emacstool (built as part of emacs 18.59) and the PLATO client (which I haven’t actually built yet). I know I can read

Re: HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program is closing

2020-03-09 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
On 3/9/2020 12:20 PM, Eric Smith wrote: On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 4:32 PM John H. Reinhardt via cctalk mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote: I would think that those that already have legal VAX PAKs/licenses could still run them. It's just no *NEW* PAKs could be legally generated. The hobby

Re: HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program is closing

2020-03-09 Thread Eric Smith via cctalk
On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 4:32 PM John H. Reinhardt via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > I would think that those that already have legal VAX PAKs/licenses could > still run them. It's just no *NEW* PAKs could be legally generated. > The hobby PAKs _and_ the licenses have a one-year

Re: does anyone have a tektronix 4170?

2020-03-09 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 3/8/20 8:04 PM, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: > I'll see if I can pull one out for images of the boards. > could you dump the firmware while you have it out?

Re: Is this IBM keyboard compatible with the IBM 3279?

2020-03-09 Thread Mattis Lind via cctalk
Den sön 8 mars 2020 kl 05:30 skrev : > On 2020-03-03 10:48, Mattis Lind via cctalk wrote: > > The connector is the correct one. It has four jumpers that could be > > used > > for setting one of the keyboard types using the KB ident lines. > > > > https://i.imgur.com/PhfvKaV.jpg > > > >

Re: soviet resistor identification help and maybe lamps?

2020-03-09 Thread Will Cooke via cctalk
> On March 8, 2020 at 3:20 AM Adrian Stoness via cctech > wrote: > > not seeing anything els other then the 620hard to get any decent shots of > them with out a macro lens though > as for the lamps if i wanted to test them one at a time would i just givethem > 12V directly? or would it be