Monroe 7860

2020-04-01 Thread Bill Newman via cctalk
I know this doesn't count as a general purpose computer, but does anybody have detailed technical information about the Monroe 7860 business calculator/printer? I think it was produced in the early 1980's. Specifically, I'm looking for information about the rom OS for this machine. e.g. are

VAX/Smalltalk-80?

2020-04-01 Thread John Ames via cctalk
Just in the middle of getting a fresh OpenVMS install set up on my VAXStation (the original having been done years ago when I barely had any idea what I was doing,) and looking through various repositories for interesting software to put on there, and I got to thinking about something I recalled

Re: Identifying Machine for DEC Memory

2020-04-01 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 9:28 AM Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 at 17:24, Maciej W. Rozycki > wrote: > > > > BTW, nice talk at FOSDEM 2020, I was there. :) > > Oh wow! Thank you! > Now I'm going to have to find that talk... :) I was at FOSDEM, but too preoccupied with my

RE: Identifying Machine for DEC Memory

2020-04-01 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: Jon Elson > Sent: 01 April 2020 16:32 > To: r...@jarratt.me.uk; Rob Jarratt ; General > Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: Identifying Machine for DEC Memory > > On 04/01/2020 02:08 AM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote: > > I mistakenly

Re: Identifying Machine for DEC Memory

2020-04-01 Thread Maciej W. Rozycki via cctalk
On Wed, 1 Apr 2020, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote: > I did have a quick hunt on the net for IPBs for any of these systems, but with > no luck. manx shows a few service manuals but they had the MS4x numbers. The look does match MS01-AA though as shown in Figure 5-9 on page 5-16 of

Re: Identifying Machine for DEC Memory

2020-04-01 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 04/01/2020 02:08 AM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote: I mistakenly bought some memory thinking it was for a VAXstation 4000 VLC. It turns out that it isn't. It physically fits a VAXstation 4000 Model 60, but putting it in that machine the machine fails to power up. The part number is

Re: Identifying Machine for DEC Memory

2020-04-01 Thread Antonio Carlini via cctalk
On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 at 16:13, Rob Jarratt wrote: This is the listing: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VIntage-DEC-VS4000-memory-SIMM-50-19464-02/223624600040 My VLC has a number of memory modules but they do not have any DEC part number on them at all. The board has "PC72N-9GG" and "JAPAN

Re: Identifying Machine for DEC Memory

2020-04-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 at 17:24, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote: > > BTW, nice talk at FOSDEM 2020, I was there. :) Oh wow! Thank you! *Blushes* :-) -- Liam Proven – Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk – gMail/gTalk/gHangouts: lpro...@gmail.com

Re: Identifying Machine for DEC Memory

2020-04-01 Thread Maciej W. Rozycki via cctalk
On Wed, 1 Apr 2020, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > The -12 on the chip part number implies 120ns RAM to me. That is slow > by modern standards -- before EDO came in, PCs tended to take 70ns, > 80ns was slow and 60ns was fast. 120ns would be quick enough for a > 4000/60 or 4000/90, marginal for a

Re: Identifying Machine for DEC Memory

2020-04-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 at 16:13, Rob Jarratt wrote: > > This is the listing: > https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VIntage-DEC-VS4000-memory-SIMM-50-19464-02/223624600040 That is... not very informative. :-( I also note that the listing just says VS4000 and does not specify a model. It could be one of 5

RE: Identifying Machine for DEC Memory

2020-04-01 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
This is the listing: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VIntage-DEC-VS4000-memory-SIMM-50-19464-02/223624600040 Regards Rob > -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Liam Proven via > cctalk > Sent: 01 April 2020 14:48 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject:

Re: Identifying Machine for DEC Memory

2020-04-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 at 09:08, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote: > > I mistakenly bought some memory thinking it was for a VAXstation 4000 VLC. > It turns out that it isn't. It physically fits a VAXstation 4000 Model 60, > but putting it in that machine the machine fails to power up. The part > number

RE: Identifying Machine for DEC Memory

2020-04-01 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: Paul Koning > Sent: 01 April 2020 14:27 > To: r...@jarratt.me.uk; Robert Jarratt ; General > Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: Identifying Machine for DEC Memory > > Does it have an M number on the handle? Those shows up in the

Re: Identifying Machine for DEC Memory

2020-04-01 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
Does it have an M number on the handle? Those shows up in the option-module list, but 2-5-2 part numbers don't. paul > On Apr 1, 2020, at 3:08 AM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk > wrote: > > I mistakenly bought some memory thinking it was for a VAXstation 4000 VLC. > It turns out that

Re: REL APL-11

2020-04-01 Thread Mark Linimon via cctalk
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 08:33:45AM -0400, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > Like any other language, APL is only obfuscated to those who never > learned to understand it. I was required to take it at Rice University circa 1974. I got quite good at it. A week later, I had *no* idea what the

Identifying Machine for DEC Memory

2020-04-01 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
I mistakenly bought some memory thinking it was for a VAXstation 4000 VLC. It turns out that it isn't. It physically fits a VAXstation 4000 Model 60, but putting it in that machine the machine fails to power up. The part number is 50-19464-02, and I am unable to identify what machine it works in.