Keven we would love it for the pc products display at smecc..!!Ed
Sharpe
In a message dated 5/26/2020 10:05:54 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:
I have an old HP DeskJet 550C color printer - inkjet,that I'm ready to part
with. It does basic PCL.Anyone with in
You may want to have a peek at the sync separator I built for my 9000-340. The
schematics are available over
at VintHp
I am also in the process of building a PS/2 and USB to HIL adapter:
http://www.dalton.ax/hpkbd/hil/
As for disks. This is one option: http://www.dalton.ax/hpdisk/ Ansgar's HPDr
Fred Cisin says:
> But, instead, it looked as though they just replaced the dollar sign
> with pound sign, and ignored the exchange rate! So, you paid about
> twice as much for the machines. I have heard prices of PET: 600
> pounds (V $600), Apple: 1200 pounds (V$1200), and TRS80: 500 pounds
> (V
I have an old HP DeskJet 550C color printer - inkjet,
that I'm ready to part with. It does basic PCL.
Anyone with interest in it?
pictures at http://www.3kranger.com/ForSale/
It uses ink HP51626A black, HP51625A tri-color cartridges.
It also has 2 cartridges as well.
1. DeskJet 500 Brush p
Al Kossow wrote:
>> Algol W was from Eroupe?
> Algol W was from Stanford, written by Wirth when he was there
I wonder if there's any connection to Stanford's SAIL language?
On 5/26/2020 10:30 AM, TangentDelta via
cctalk wrote:
Hello!
I have an HP 9817 and its accompanying 9133D disk drive unit.
The disk drive seems like a rather large can of worms, so I've been ignoring
it. I re-capped the 9817's power supply. It powers up and it passes all of its
diagnostic
On 5/26/20 6:39 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
Algol W was from Eroupe?
Algol W was from Stanford, written by Wirth when he was there
Actually, by Dick Sites
http://bitsavers.org/pdf/stanford/cs_techReports/STAN-CS-71-230_Algol_W_Reference_Manual_Feb72.pdf
Algol W was from Eroupe?
Algol W was from Stanford, written by Wirth when he was there
On 5/26/2020 1:35 PM, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote:
"did O/S's change" in what way?
You had ample memory to run your programs without swapping
providing only a few users were online.
The IBM PL/I F compiler was available in 1966 and PL/I has structures. It
was usable on all "real" System/360
Fred
... discusses problems with SMARTDRV (in MS DOS 4.01 and later).
On Tue, 26 May 2020, Christian Groessler via cctalk wrote:
I'm not sure if it was technically a form of caching, but the AmigaDOS
delayed floppy write (well before MS-DOS cache) caused enormous problems
for Amiga users. (It
On 5/26/2020 6:30 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
> > Outside of CP/M were *any* mainstream American home computers Z80
> > based before the C128?
Yes. TRS80.
I guess that I just have the wrong definition of "home computer".
It is subjective, and I will concede that MY definition may not be
> > Outside of CP/M were *any* mainstream American home computers Z80
> > based before the C128?
Yes.?? TRS80.
Should we include Murray's Adam?
(what percentage of Adam owners bought the add-on disk drives?)
Even the 5150 was a home computer with cassette, and no drives. How many
people here
I accidentally attributed text from Liam as being from Fred C,
""MS-DOS 3.3 did not even come with a disk cache."
Sorry Fred!
Stan
On Tue, 26 May 2020, Stan Sieler via cctalk wrote:
Fred writes:
..."MS-DOS 3.3 did not even come with a
disk cache."
I definitely never said THAT.
and discusses problems with SMARTDRV (in MS DOS 4.01 and later).
Yes, THAT I said, but in terms of Win3.10 installing SMARTDRV, rather than
DOS
> FOlks know about IBM,
> but most don't know they still make mainframes and midrange (OS400 or
> whatever it is called now) machines, and Burroughs,
Funny thing is that even many IBMers I come across do not realize that Unisys
is still in the mainframe business, and still actively develops
hardwa
On 2020-05-26 22:06, Stan Sieler via cctalk wrote:
Fred writes:
..."MS-DOS 3.3 did not even come with a
disk cache."
and discusses problems with SMARTDRV (in MS DOS 4.01 and later).
I'm not sure if it was technically a form of caching, but the AmigaDOS
delayed floppy write (well before MS-DO
Fred writes:
..."MS-DOS 3.3 did not even come with a
disk cache."
and discusses problems with SMARTDRV (in MS DOS 4.01 and later).
I'm not sure if it was technically a form of caching, but the AmigaDOS
delayed floppy write (well before MS-DOS cache) caused enormous problems
for Amiga users. (I
On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 1:52 PM Jim Brain via cctalk
wrote:
> FOlks know about IBM,
> but most don't know they still make mainframes and midrange (OS400 or
> whatever it is called now) machines, and Burroughs, Wang, Amdahl,
> Hitachi are missed. , Super computer is forever linked with Cray, but
>
On 5/26/2020 2:34 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
Yes. TRS80.
Hmm, I always thought of the Model 1,3,4 (and the II/12/16/6000) as
business machines, like the Kaypro and such, not home computers, but I
guess I consider the PET a non home computer as well.
Jim
On 5/26/2020 1:54 PM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
Interesting that you echo word-for-word the phrase used by a commenter
on my blog. (I try to remember to turn all my longer ClassicCmp
answers into blog posts.)
"A gateway drug".
Yes, indeed.
:-)
But I guess most American readers have ne
On Tue, 26 May 2020, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
I do not know what a "sheering section" means.
Typo: "cheering". :-)
Aha! I still didn't know, but that, I could Google. Gotcha.
In USA urban slang, "sheep" is sometimes used to refer to gullible masses
(particularly in a political context
On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 1:56 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk
wrote:
> On Fri, 22 May 2020, Boris Gimbarzevsky wrote:
> > Thanks for posting the timeline of various Basic interpreters. I wasn't
> > aware that Gates/Allen also wrote Basic for C64.
>
> Microsoft did a BASIC for the Commodore PET. I wasn'
On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 1:54 PM ben via cctalk
wrote:
> On 5/22/2020 1:38 PM, Rod Smallwood via cctalk wrote:
> > I remember sittig in the DEC Ealing (London) Office in 1975 watching a
> > programmer work on TOPS 10
> >
> > That was DEC's mainframe operating system.
> >
> > A foot high of printou
On Tue, 26 May 2020, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
I do not know what a "sheering section" means.
Typo: "cheering". :-)
Aha! I still didn't know, but that, I could Google. Gotcha.
Well, there were some products whose role was to SHEAR THE SHEEP.
The Apple3 belonged in a shearing section. Ma
On Tue, 26 May 2020 at 19:22, Chris Elmquist via cctalk
wrote:
>
> A friend has unearthed approximately (5) of these IBM keyboards in his
> dad's shed in MN. These are not PC keyboards but instead likely 3178
> terminal keyboards. They probably came out of 3M a very long time ago.
>
> https://dr
On Tue, 26 May 2020 at 18:50, Jim Brain via cctalk
wrote:
>
> TO help save a few bits in everyone's mailbox, I will link to some docs:
>
> http://forum.6502.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1514
Whoah. OK, TMI for this dilettante.
I think the only CBM kit that went through my home was a C16 I fixed
for
It's a 98204B card. I've been looking at the original HP displays but I haven't
heard anything good about them. I've seen people mention newer multisync LCD
monitors that will work with it.
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Tuesday, May 26, 2020 12:30 PM, Tony Duell wrote:
> On Tue, May 26,
On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 6:55 PM Liam Proven wrote:
>
> On Tue, 26 May 2020 at 18:25, Tony Duell wrote:
> > Yes we did!. The only TRS-80 that I know not to have been officially
> > sold in the UK was the Color Computer 3
> [...]
>
> As I said -- I saw them in the shops. I know they were sold. I j
On Tue, 26 May 2020 at 18:25, Tony Duell wrote:
>
> Err, the Acorn Atom could do colour at least in some graphics modes.
> It used the 6847 video chip that turned up in the Tandy Color
> Computer/Dragon. Maybe the base machine was monochrome video only, but
> there was a PAL encoder board availabl
On Tue, 26 May 2020 at 17:49, Adrian Graham via cctalk
wrote:
> > On 26 May 2020, at 12:57, Liam Proven via cctalk
> > wrote:
> >
> > & the Isle of Man. :-)
>
> Suddenly your comments about Trash-80s and MSX machines makes perfect sense
> too :)
Fair enough. Small island country, with about 2
I think some on the VCFED forums were looking for one of these.
Dave
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk On Behalf Of Chris Elmquist
> via cctalk
> Sent: 26 May 2020 18:22
> To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
> Subject: IBM 3178 keyboards available in MN
>
> A friend has unearthed approximately
A friend has unearthed approximately (5) of these IBM keyboards in his
dad's shed in MN. These are not PC keyboards but instead likely 3178
terminal keyboards. They probably came out of 3M a very long time ago.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1B8kw9xdaeikwzKzyL0ts3HZZg96K7Yov/view?usp=sharing
I
The gcc VAX backend is in danger of being dropped if it doesn't get
converted from the older cc0 to the newer MODE_CC implementation.
John Paul Adrian Glaubitz has started a
bountysource entry
https://www.bountysource.com/issues/91495157-vax-convert-the-backend-to-mode_cc-so-it-can-be-kept-in-fut
On 5/26/2020 9:50 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
On Mon, 25 May 2020 at 20:53, Jim Brain via cctalk
wrote:
Too late to fix silicon, the 6522 issue surfaced.
What 6522 issue?
TO help save a few bits in everyone's mailbox, I will link to some docs:
http://forum.6502.org/viewtopic.php?f
On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 4:31 PM TangentDelta via cctalk
wrote:
>
> Hello!
>
> I have an HP 9817 and its accompanying 9133D disk drive unit.
>
> The disk drive seems like a rather large can of worms, so I've been ignoring
> it. I re-capped the 9817's power supply. It powers up and it passes all of
On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 12:44 PM Liam Proven via cctalk
wrote:
>
> And whereas it's easy to forget now, I think the roles of colour and
> sound in gaining the attention of children is underestimated.
>
> I look at the specs and capabilities of something like the Acorn Atom
> in 1980 -- _way_ ahea
> On 26 May 2020, at 12:57, Liam Proven via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 25 May 2020 at 23:17, Adrian Graham via cctalk
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Wait, PETs didn’t have graphics and Tic Tac Toe didn’t exist? Where did you
>> LIVE?
>
> The _name_ was new to me.
>
> & the Isle of Man. :-)
>
Sudd
On 5/26/20 8:30 AM, TangentDelta via cctalk wrote:
Hello!
I have an HP 9817 and its accompanying 9133D disk drive unit.
you may have more luck with HP questions at vinthp...@groups.io
Hello!
I have an HP 9817 and its accompanying 9133D disk drive unit.
The disk drive seems like a rather large can of worms, so I've been ignoring
it. I re-capped the 9817's power supply. It powers up and it passes all of its
diagnostics according to the LEDs on the motherboard. I can see that i
On Mon, 25 May 2020 at 20:53, Jim Brain via cctalk
wrote:
> Too late to fix silicon, the 6522 issue surfaced.
What 6522 issue?
This is way more depth about a machine I never owned than I personally
ever knew, I have to admit...
> Oh, and re-use all the VIC peripherals to save NRE costs!
I h
On Mon, 25 May 2020 at 23:17, Adrian Graham via cctalk
wrote:
>
>
> Wait, PETs didn’t have graphics and Tic Tac Toe didn’t exist? Where did you
> LIVE?
The _name_ was new to me.
& the Isle of Man. :-)
--
Liam Proven – Profile: https://about.me/liamproven
Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk – gMail/gTalk
On Mon, 25 May 2020 at 20:51, Adrian Graham via cctalk
wrote:
> Quite a few Australians might not share your view that Dick Smith was
> ‘niche’, Europeans may, largely because they’ll have never heard of him in
> Europe. For proper niche see the RCA-1802 powered COMX-35.
I do remember the COMX
On Mon, 25 May 2020 at 20:49, Fred Cisin via cctalk
wrote:
>
> I apologise for offending you. Sloppiness and insnesitivity on my part,
> not a deliberate attempt.
Just saddened, Fred, not offended.
I never had a ZX81, but the door-wedge joke is as old as the machine.
I think its historical posi
On Mon, 25 May 2020 at 20:42, Bill Degnan via cctalk
wrote:
>
> I find Gmail
> sends a lot of group posts and replies straight to the spam folder.
If you filter ClassicCmp.org replies into a folder, then there is a
checkbox in the "filter messages like these" screen that says "never
mark as spam
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