On 5/31/20 3:13 PM, Eric Korpela via cctalk wrote:
> Most languages will give you some way to shoot yourself in the foot. The
> question is how much work do you need to do? In FORTRAN the easiest method
> was changing the value of a literal in a subroutine call. It is standard
> compliant
On 2020-05-30 14:18, Boris Gimbarzevsky via cctech wrote:
Chuck, your post just reminded me of how I used FORTRAN to interface
with my PDP-11 ASM routines when I was doing data acquisition as fast
as possible on a MINC system. Perused my FORTRAN code about 6 months
ago and had common blocks and
Still looking for the matching paper tape reader and punch. For one of
these...Ed#
On Sunday, May 31, 2020 Jan-Benedict Glaw via cctech wrote:
Hi!
I just wanted to drop an email that there's a MDS 80 on eBay:
https://www.ebay.de/itm/333612000595
(Please note: The seller, Michael, is a
I assume this are not the standard Intel floppy drives?
On Sunday, May 31, 2020 Jan-Benedict Glaw via cctech wrote:
Hi!
I just wanted to drop an email that there's a MDS 80 on eBay:
https://www.ebay.de/itm/333612000595
(Please note: The seller, Michael, is a friend of mine, and a
On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 5:50 PM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On 5/31/20 2:24 AM, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote:
> >
> >
> > On the other hand, Intel also had a FORTRAN-80 product, which was
> unrelated
> > to Microsoft FORTRAN-80. Intel FOTRAN-80 ran on their MDS
is nexgen cpu and motherboard scarce or rare item? Ed#
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> On May 31, 2020, at 9:16 PM, Bill Gunshannon
> wrote:
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> On 5/31/20 8:35 PM, Mich.com wrote:
>> Sent from my iPhone.
On May 31, 2020, at 7:50 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
wrote:
>>>
>>> On 5/31/20 2:24 AM, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote:
On the
On 5/31/20 8:35 PM, Mich.com wrote:
Sent from my iPhone.
On May 31, 2020, at 7:50 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
wrote:
On 5/31/20 2:24 AM, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote:
On the other hand, Intel also had a FORTRAN-80 product, which was unrelated
to Microsoft FORTRAN-80. Intel FOTRAN-80
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> On May 31, 2020, at 7:50 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> On 5/31/20 2:24 AM, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote:
>> On the other hand, Intel also had a FORTRAN-80 product, which was unrelated
>> to Microsoft FORTRAN-80. Intel FOTRAN-80 ran on their MDS
He amassed a huge collection, then
sold the lot and bought a Tesla. :-)
On Mon, 1 Jun 2020, Tony Duell via cctalk wrote:
Assuming a 'Tesla' is an electric car, I'd rather be in the reverse
position (selling said car and being able to buy some interesting old
computers...)]
A Tesla is a
On 5/31/20 2:24 AM, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote:
On the other hand, Intel also had a FORTRAN-80 product, which was unrelated
to Microsoft FORTRAN-80. Intel FOTRAN-80 ran on their MDS development
systems under the ISIS-II operating system, and the compiler was written in
PL/M.
Which is even
Title says all,
Backing up all the programmable parts in the Apollo DN100 and the CPU board
has a few of these ceramic DIPs with the same Apollo P/N labels as the
Am27S29 and similar programmable parts.
Thanks
On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 5:53 PM Liam Proven via cctalk
wrote:
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> On Fri, 29 May 2020 at 19:56, Tony Duell wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 7:24 PM Liam Proven via cctalk
> > wrote:
> >
> > There were also some pretty high-spec British microcomputers, but they
> > tended to flop owing to
Most languages will give you some way to shoot yourself in the foot. The
question is how much work do you need to do? In FORTRAN the easiest method
was changing the value of a literal in a subroutine call. It is standard
compliant behavior that goes back to at least FORTRAN IV. Current
That is a nice setup. With an Ice85 that is really nice. It will clearly sell
for a good price.
Dwight
From: cctalk on behalf of Jan-Benedict Glaw via
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Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 1:28 PM
To: cct...@classiccmp.org
Subject: intellec MDS80 on eBay
Hi!
On 2020-05-30 15:21, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
On Fri, 29 May 2020, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
Oh, FORTRAN can do likewise--I suspect that most languages can be
coaxed
(perhaps with some assembly-language subroutines)to do something
nasty.
"A real programmer can write a FORTRAN program
On Fri, 29 May 2020 at 19:56, Tony Duell wrote:
>
> On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 7:24 PM Liam Proven via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> There were also some pretty high-spec British microcomputers, but they
> tended to flop owing to the price. Things like the HH Tiger (did it
> ever go into production?
Hi!
I just wanted to drop an email that there's a MDS 80 on eBay:
https://www.ebay.de/itm/333612000595
(Please note: The seller, Michael, is a friend of mine, and a former
coworker.)
Thanks,
Jan-Benedict
--
Chuck, your post just reminded me of how I used
FORTRAN to interface with my PDP-11 ASM routines
when I was doing data acquisition as fast as
possible on a MINC system. Perused my FORTRAN
code about 6 months ago and had common blocks and
a routine which took "arrays" which were
essential
On Fri, 29 May 2020, Dave Wade via cctalk wrote:
-Original Message-
From: cctalk On Behalf Of Bill Gunshannon
On 5/29/20 5:24 PM, Jim Brain via cctalk wrote:
At the risk of fanning the language fire, C seems to be a smaller step
up from native machine language than most other
All,
Still trying to find a home for this system (re-post but with more information,
testing)
For the visually oriented, here are pictures showing the machine running:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/11j__mCYOFuBAil58hAdhmSK5GMaqmcUL?usp=sharing
Things in the pictures but NOT included
On 05/31/2020 02:06 AM, jim stephens via cctalk wrote:
On 5/30/2020 11:15 PM, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote:
On 05/29/2020 02:38 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote:
Low-level machines did not even have storage protection
keys, and on the /40 and /50 (I think) it was an option,
although
One reaason why you don't hear much about that is because the first
version of Microsoft Fortran for the PC wasn't real great.
It was written in Microsoft Pascal.
On Sat, 30 May 2020, John Foust via cctalk wrote:
Really!
How does this connect to Microsoft's FORTRAN-80 for CP/M circa 1977?
On 5/30/2020 11:15 PM, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote:
On 05/29/2020 02:38 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote:
Low-level machines did not even have storage protection
keys, and on the /40 and /50 (I think) it was an option,
although I'd guess almost any /50 had it installed.
Our /50 had it
On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 3:27 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk
wrote:
> >> One reaason why you don't hear much about that is because the first
> >> version of Microsoft Fortran for the PC wasn't real great.
> >> It was written in Microsoft Pascal.
>
> On Sat, 30 May 2020, John Foust via cctalk wrote:
> >
On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 3:30 PM Jon Elson via cctalk
wrote:
> On 05/29/2020 02:38 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote:
> > > From: Jon Elson
> >
> > > As far as I know, there was no VM/360. There WAS VM/370, which
> was out
> > > in the early 1970's
> >
> > CP/67, which was a
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