Re: Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-14 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 6/14/20 8:41 PM, dwight via cctalk wrote: > I can see why I was having problems. The picture was upside down. It > looked like Spanish or something. Do remember that Intel's claim to > fame wasn't just micro processor. They were one of the first to do > MOS RAMs for big machines. They were more

Re: Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-14 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
there ya  go!(as  I  said...) ED# In a message dated 6/14/2020 8:41:43 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:  It clearly isn't for some 4004 or 8008. It was likely monitoring some RAM for some mini. Dwight

Aquarius (was Re: Apple 1)

2020-06-14 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 6/14/20 9:36 PM, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk wrote: He didn't know of anyone doing much other with it either.__ I think it was bought before there was a unix type OS under the Macos. https://wiki.c2.com/?AppleCrayComputer They bought it to use to design the next Macintosh CPU I thought

Re: Apple 1

2020-06-14 Thread Jim Manley via cctalk
Starting in 1987, future Mac product circuitry and VLSI designs were run on a Cray X-MP/48 for hardware and software simulations under Unicos Cray’s licensed version of Unix System V: Apple was the first company that Cray allowed to access their Network Systems Corporation (Minneapolis) developed

Re: Apple 1

2020-06-14 Thread Cameron Kaiser via cctalk
> > He didn't know of anyone doing much other with it either.__ I think it was > > bought before there was a unix type OS under the Macos. > > https://wiki.c2.com/?AppleCrayComputer > > They bought it to use to design the next Macintosh CPU I thought That would be Aquarius.

Re: Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-14 Thread dwight via cctalk
I can see why I was having problems. The picture was upside down. It looked like Spanish or something. Do remember that Intel's claim to fame wasn't just micro processor. They were one of the first to do MOS RAMs for big machines. They were more into solid state memory systems than uPs, until

Re: Apple 1

2020-06-14 Thread Ethan O'Toole via cctalk
He didn't know of anyone doing much other with it either.  I think it was bought before there was a unix type OS under the Macos. thanks Jim https://wiki.c2.com/?AppleCrayComputer They bought it to use to design the next Macintosh CPU I thought (break away from the 68000 but never did), but

Re: Apple 1

2020-06-14 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
On 6/13/2020 10:28 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: On 6/13/20 10:20 PM, jim stephens via cctalk wrote:  Do they still have it? The Y-MP was replaced by a cray-ette in the early 90s In the end the main use for it was for doing backups with its tape robot A friend that worked there when

Re: : Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-14 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 06/14/2020 03:05 PM, ben via cctalk wrote: 4004 or 8008 development system? bitsavers intel databook 1975 had a bit on them ... just front panel picture and call us for more information. Nope, way too many address bits, and 16 bits plus parity data word. Could possibly be some in-house

Re: Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-14 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 06/14/2020 03:05 PM, Joshua Rice via cctalk wrote: https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/dysAAOSwqqJehZ-Y/s-l1600.jpg That’s off the listing. Clearly a panel for a memory device. Data is 16 bits plus 2 parity bits. There are

Re: : Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-14 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
As a totally unrelated aside, few remember that Intel also made wristwatches. They had a subsidiary, Microma, that turned them out. National Semiconductor also made wristwatches. --Chuck

Re: : Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-14 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
It would be useful if the legends on the panel were actually readable by mere mortals. Intel Memory Systems was very big in the early-mod 1970s. The reason was pretty simple--they offered add-on memory for IBM S/370 and other vendors cheaper than the OEMs could. --Chuck

Re: : Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-14 Thread Camiel Vanderhoeven via cctalk
That would my my guess as well; add-on semiconductor memory for a 16-bit minicomputer. I know Intel made the in-4011 for the PDP-11, but I never saw a picture of it. Camiel > On Jun 14, 2020, at 6:46 PM, ED SHARPE via cctalk > wrote: > > > Add on solid state memory unit some semi

VHDL / IBM SMS Data gathering and HDL Synthesis Update

2020-06-14 Thread Jay Jaeger via cctalk
Don't know if anybody much cares, but: The HDL synthesis aspect of the SMS data gathering / HDL synthesis application is coming along. I can now handle: - Oscillators (using a counter divider) - Delay lines (using a shift register, so limited to a reasonable number of FPGA clock clock cycles,

Re: : Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-14 Thread ben via cctalk
On 6/14/2020 2:01 PM, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: On Sun, Jun 14, 2020, 12:46 PM ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: Add on solid state memory unit some semi companies made tjem. For add to Dec and dg? Dunno. A guess ed smecc On Sunday, June 14, 2020 Joshua Rice via cctalk wrote: Hi

Re: Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-14 Thread Joshua Rice via cctalk
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/dysAAOSwqqJehZ-Y/s-l1600.jpg That’s off the listing. Sorry the photos came out funny/upside down, i guess my phone couldn’t work out which way up it was… I think the photos of the board numbers are

Re: : Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-14 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
thus  my  comment  of  an add on memory  store  etc...---   Ed  SMECC In a message dated 6/14/2020 1:01:19 PM US Mountain Standard Time, billdeg...@gmail.com writes:  I’m 95% confident it’s not strictly a “computer” blinkenlight panel, but rather an attached device, but that still hasn’t helped

Re: : Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-14 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
On Sun, Jun 14, 2020, 12:46 PM ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: > > Add on solid state memory unit some semi companies made tjem. For add to > Dec and dg? Dunno. A guess > ed smecc > On Sunday, June 14, 2020 Joshua Rice via cctalk cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Hi all. > > I recently

Re: Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-14 Thread dwight via cctalk
Hi Al Can you repeat what the text is? I can't make out what it says, even with magnification. Dwight From: cctalk on behalf of Al Kossow via cctalk Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 9:21 AM To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel

: Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-14 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
Add on  solid state memory unit  some semi companies made tjem. For add to Dec and dg?  Dunno. A guess    ed smecc On Sunday, June 14, 2020 Joshua Rice via cctalk wrote: Hi all. I recently bought a mystery blinkenlight panel. Closer inspection reveals it was manufactured by Intel in the

Re: Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-14 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 6/14/20 9:01 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: Any reason the picture is upside down?  Also, blurry, so it is hard to read the labels. I can't find the original eBay listing right now. The pictures were better on there

Re: Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-14 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 06/14/2020 03:52 AM, Joshua Rice via cctalk wrote: Hi all. I recently bought a mystery blinkenlight panel. Closer inspection reveals it was manufactured by Intel in the early 70’s (1973), and some people on the book of faces suggested it was part of a “device multiplexer”(?) I’m 95%

Re: Apple 1

2020-06-14 Thread Camiel Vanderhoeven via cctalk
“Here i am, brain the size of a planet, and i’m controlling a robot that does tape backups” That's not uncommon for outdated (mini)supercomputers. Fast network and disk I/O make them well suited to the task. It's just a shame of all that nice vector hardware. Convex actively advocated the use

Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-14 Thread Joshua Rice via cctalk
Hi all. I recently bought a mystery blinkenlight panel. Closer inspection reveals it was manufactured by Intel in the early 70’s (1973), and some people on the book of faces suggested it was part of a “device multiplexer”(?) I’m 95% confident it’s not strictly a “computer” blinkenlight panel,

Re: Apple 1

2020-06-14 Thread Joshua Rice via cctalk
“Here i am, brain the size of a planet, and i’m controlling a robot that does tape backups” > On Jun 14, 2020, at 6:28 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk > wrote: > > On 6/13/20 10:20 PM, jim stephens via cctalk wrote: >> Do they still have it? > > The Y-MP was replaced by a cray-ette in the early 90s

Re: Thinking of selling my PDP's

2020-06-14 Thread Joshua Rice via cctalk
There’s ALWAYS a market for PDP-8’s and PDP-11’s. Sadly though, i assume these are all on the yankee side of the pond, ruling out the significant european market out entirely (and don’t even THINK about shipping, unless you want to remortgage your house) Either way, i’m sure you won’t