Have been going through my shop and storage room trying to see what
can get rid of and wasn't aware of how much old electronics and
computers have accumulated over last 50 years. Should note that this
process has been at insistance of my wife as a lot of these boxes
just got moved whenever I m
On 7/23/20 9:00 PM, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 11:47 AM Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>> Infocom's games were based on Crowther, after all.
>
>
> Inspired by, not "based on".
>
> ADVENT was written in Fortran 66. I'm not sure what Crowthe
Eric Smith wrote:
> Infocom games were written in ZIL (based on MDL), and developed on a
> DECSYSTEM-20. Presumably Infocom had a ZIP for the -20, but they
> didn't publicly release that.
Maybe this.
https://github.com/PDP-10/its-vault/blob/master/twenex/zork/z/zip.mud.96
On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 11:47 AM Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> Infocom's games were based on Crowther, after all.
Inspired by, not "based on".
ADVENT was written in Fortran 66. I'm not sure what Crowther used
originally, but Don Woods version was developed on a DECsys
On 7/23/2020 6:59 PM, dwight via cctalk wrote:
I would think to be a mainframe, it has to have a I/O processor. That is about
all I can think of.
Dwight
Fontpanel display more than 1KW. :)
Ben.
Hi Greg,
I saw Mike Douglas' Altair 8800c but he writes on his website that this is
not a complete kit. I got the impression that he offers only the front
panel PCBs, FDC and SIO and maybe the S100 motherboard.
Thank you for the link to the S100computers group. There is a lot of useful
info there
Ahhh,
Just m,aybe it is simply an I/O processor with different firmware - That
would run zork just fine :-P
Kindest regards,
Doug Jackson
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On 2020-07-23 8:59 p.m., dwight via cctalk wrote:
> I would think to be a mainframe, it has to have a I/O processor. That is
> about all I can think of.
> Dwight
>
So, a BeagleBone then
>
> From: cctalk on behalf of Grant Taylor via
> cctalk
> Sent: Thursda
I would think to be a mainframe, it has to have a I/O processor. That is about
all I can think of.
Dwight
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Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 4:06 PM
To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Adventures online
On 7/23/
On 7/23/20 4:34 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
How about the XT/370? or XT/360?
(I couldn't afford one)
As the predecessor to the P/390-E, I definitely think that the XT/370 or
XT/360 is a (baby) mainframe.
--
Grant. . . .
unix || die
Q: What is the definition of mainframe?
On Thu, 23 Jul 2020, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
Something you buy from IBM? ;-)
I'm going to say something that runs a mainframe OS.
This includes IBM's zPDT & RDz which are software emulators. It also
includes a P/390-E, et al., card that has a p
> > Q: What is the definition of mainframe?
> > Lose a scope in it?
> > Need a forklift and a union moving crew?
>
> Something you buy from IBM? ;-)
*pats POWER6, which is not a mainframe*
... or for that matter, was purchased from IBM, because they wouldn't sell
me one.
--
--
On 7/23/20 1:59 PM, Adam Thornton via cctalk wrote:
But I've been known to do silly emulation tricks too:
https://www.fsf.net/~adam/NT-on-390-desktop.png
I'm curious what you're doing there.
Is that an X3270 session to a physical mainframe running bochs in OMVS /
USS?
Or is it a mainframe
On 7/23/20 11:24 AM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
Is there a reason why he answered the OS, but not what the system was?
Having interacted with @bmoshix, I'm taking his "mainframe" answer to
mean that it's probably either (one of) his zPDT / RDz (IBM's answer to
Hercule) -or- one of the physi
If it's actually running on real z hardware Linux is probably already
running under z/VM.
If it's running on Hercules, thenOK, but the host system could have
handled the Infocom games without ever even blinking. But I've been known
to do silly emulation tricks too:
https://www.fsf.net/~adam/
Well, they started with the PDP-10 ZORK, and used PDP-10 (architecture) systems
to develop many of the others...
Rich Alderson
ex-Living Computers: Museum + Labs
http://www.panix.com/~alderson/
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> On Jul 23, 2020, at 10:26, Lars Brinkhoff via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> Chuck Gu
> On Jul 23, 2020, at 10:47, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> On 7/23/20 10:25 AM, Lars Brinkhoff wrote:
>> Chuck Guzis wrote:
>>> Well, if one wanted to stay historically accurate, one would use a
>>> PDP-10.
>>
>> It's not Crowther's Adventure, but the Infocom games.
>
> Infocom's game
Tom,
Grant moved shortly after this Kit offering, over a decade ago.
That kit is OVER (Grant no longer offering).
Participate in the S100computers Group: http://www.s100computers.com/
Join the List at Google Group: S100Computers
https://groups.google.com
Grant special ordered the metal fabrica
On 2020-07-22 10:52 p.m., Chris Zach via cctalk wrote:
> Just put up a big pdp11 and be done with it. Hm. Running on Simh a fully
> loaded 11 should handle just about anything the internet could toss at
> it...
>
> C
>
When you've got that set up, post the link on Slashdot, they love text
advent
How about running MDL Zork on ITS for historical accuracy? I'm scheming
with some of the implementers to take steps in that direction.
Chuck Guzis wrote:
> Lars Brinkhoff wrote:
>> Chuck Guzis wrote:
>>> Well, if one wanted to stay historically accurate, one would use a
>>> PDP-10.
>> It's not Crowther's Adventure, but the Infocom games.
> Infocom's games were based on Crowther, after all.
Rich Alderson wrote:
> Well, they starte
Well, if one wanted to stay historically accurate, one would use a PDP-10.
True, and when I thought about it I realized the problem: I could create
a GAMES directory on my RSX11m+, but if multiple users logged in
wouldn't they step on each other? Or would it work because each user
would have
On 7/23/20 10:25 AM, Lars Brinkhoff wrote:
> Chuck Guzis wrote:
>> Well, if one wanted to stay historically accurate, one would use a
>> PDP-10.
>
> It's not Crowther's Adventure, but the Infocom games.
Forgot to mention that access to the game was via SCOPE's INTERCOM.
--Chuck
On 7/23/20 10:25 AM, Lars Brinkhoff wrote:
> Chuck Guzis wrote:
>> Well, if one wanted to stay historically accurate, one would use a
>> PDP-10.
>
> It's not Crowther's Adventure, but the Infocom games.
Infocom's games were based on Crowther, after all. I remember porting
the PDP-10 FORTRAN to
Chuck Guzis wrote:
> Well, if one wanted to stay historically accurate, one would use a
> PDP-10.
It's not Crowther's Adventure, but the Infocom games.
I asked @bmoshix what the system was. I've not gotten a reply yet.
On Thu, 23 Jul 2020, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
@bmoshix replied that it's Linux running on a mainframe.
Is there a reason why he answered the OS, but not what the system was?
What sort of mainframe would somebody be ash
On 7/23/20 9:32 AM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
> On 7/22/20 11:32 PM, Grant Taylor wrote:
>> I asked @bmoshix what the system was. I've not gotten a reply yet.
>
> @bmoshix replied that it's Linux running on a mainframe.
>
Well, if one wanted to stay historically accurate, one would use a P
On 7/22/20 11:32 PM, Grant Taylor wrote:
I asked @bmoshix what the system was. I've not gotten a reply yet.
@bmoshix replied that it's Linux running on a mainframe.
I half way expect that it's Docker running on z/OS.
So, apparently not Docker running on z/OS.
It could be Docker on Linux
This comes up from time to time, I don't believe he is making any more
kits. I have not heard from him for a while.
Bill
On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 10:39 AM Tom Hunter via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> About 10 years ago Grant Stockly in Anchorage Alaska produced high quality
> MITS Alta
About 10 years ago Grant Stockly in Anchorage Alaska produced high quality
MITS Altair 8800 reproductions in kit form. The website still exists:
http://www.altairkit.com/
I have tried to contact Grant but did not get a reply. Does anyone know if
these kits are still available? Is Grant on this for
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