Re: Any interest in "newer" hardware, software?

2020-07-28 Thread Jay Jaeger via cctalk
On 7/28/2020 1:43 PM, Brent Hilpert via cctech wrote: > > Per the OP's machine, the early HP21xx machines were based on CTµL, for which > the main supply is +4.5V. > DTL and TTL chips in these machines ran off that 4.5 supply. > The DTL I referred to in my posting are in a third-party (IOMEC)

Re: Any interest in "newer" hardware, software?

2020-07-28 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2020-Jul-28, at 6:40 PM, Jay Jaeger via cctech wrote: > On 7/28/2020 1:43 PM, Brent Hilpert via cctech wrote: >> >> Per the OP's machine, the early HP21xx machines were based on CTµL, for >> which the main supply is +4.5V. >> DTL and TTL chips in these machines ran off that 4.5 supply. >>

Re: TRS 80 Model 12 Picked up

2020-07-28 Thread Richard Pope via cctalk
Fred, The information is greatly appreciated. I forgot about TRS-DOS. I was sure about the CP/M. GOD Bless and Thanks, rich! On 7/29/2020 12:18 AM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: The model 12 was a replacement for the Model 2. The 12 is smaller and lighter. Half-height drives, keyboard

Re: TRS 80 Model 12 Picked up

2020-07-28 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
The model 12 was a replacement for the Model 2. The 12 is smaller and lighter. Half-height drives, keyboard and video connected to a board in a slot. Expansion chassis was available. It could run Model 2 TRS-DOS. OR It could run CP/M (if you can find the right boot disk!) I don't know

Re: TRS 80 Model 12 Picked up

2020-07-28 Thread devin davison via cctalk
I am located in Melbourne Florida. I will see if I can get access to the power supply and see what shape it is in, thanks for the suggestion. On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 12:06 AM Richard Pope wrote: > Devin, > I believe that this is a Z-80 machine that runs CPM. You will > probably find that

Re: Any interest in "newer" hardware, software?

2020-07-28 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2020-Jul-28, at 4:48 PM, Carlos E Murillo-Sanchez via cctalk wrote: > > So, what would two chips marked > > F U6A7709393 > 7043 F : Fairchild U : monolithic device (as opposed to e.g. hybrid) 6A : package, DIP (6), 14-pin (A) 7709: circuit/function code. As Jay suggests, a 709 op

Re: TRS 80 Model 12 Picked up

2020-07-28 Thread Richard Pope via cctalk
Devin, I believe that this is a Z-80 machine that runs CPM. You will probably find that the electrolytics in the power supply are leaking. Please don't quote me on this. Where is this stuff located? GOD Bless and Thanks, rich! On 7/28/2020 11:00 PM, devin davison via cctalk wrote:

TRS 80 Model 12 Picked up

2020-07-28 Thread devin davison via cctalk
Greetings. It has been an interesting day. Rather late in the day, a buddy notified me of a local thrift store that went under, and mentioned there may be some computers on site up for grabs. Upon arrival, the place was a mess, but the folks there were friendly and gave me the tour, everything had

Re: Any interest in "newer" hardware, software?

2020-07-28 Thread Carlos E Murillo-Sanchez via cctalk
Jay Jaeger via cctalk wrote: On 7/28/2020 6:48 PM, Carlos E Murillo-Sanchez via cctalk wrote: So, what would two chips marked F  U6A7709393 7043 and F   7306  7-6987 be? Carlos. U6A seems likely to me to be referring to a linear chip, rather than a digital one, though the 6

MS-DOS 2.11 Assign.com

2020-07-28 Thread Robert Feldman via cctalk
I'm trying to copy files off my Otrona Attache 8:16 using FastLynx 3.3, but I keep getting an error 708 when trying to push SL.EXE to the Otrona over the serial port. I am wondering if the reason for the error is that the Otrona does not have a C: drive. Therefore, I would like to try to use

Re: OpenVMS Community License

2020-07-28 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
On 7/28/2020 1:11 PM, Camiel Vanderhoeven wrote: On Jul 28, 2020, at 7:47 PM, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote: The question that will be answered when someone gets the VSI CLP PAKs is will those PAKS work on an older version of OpenVMS?  The Hobbyist PAKs

Re: Any interest in "newer" hardware, software?

2020-07-28 Thread Jay Jaeger via cctalk
On 7/28/2020 6:48 PM, Carlos E Murillo-Sanchez via cctalk wrote: > > So, what would two chips marked > > F  U6A7709393 > 7043 > > and > > F   7306 >  7-6987 > > be? > > Carlos. > U6A seems likely to me to be referring to a linear chip, rather than a digital one, though the 6 between

Re: Any interest in "newer" hardware, software?

2020-07-28 Thread Carlos E Murillo-Sanchez via cctalk
Brent Hilpert via cctalk wrote: Fairchild part numbers trivia following. On 2020-Jul-28, at 7:35 AM, Jay Jaeger via cctalk wrote: My DTL chips have markings like: DT uL93659 (Chip type 936) F 7016 DT uL909759 (Chip type 9097) F 7013 (I expect 7016 and 7013 are date codes. Not sure

Re: OpenVMS Community License

2020-07-28 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Jul 28, 2020, at 4:41 PM, Zane Healy wrote: > > On Jul 28, 2020, at 4:30 PM, Chris Hanson via cctalk > wrote: >> >> Can someone please post a link to some text describing the new licensing >> program and how to apply to it? >> >> Just sending a video isn't useful for everyone. >> >> —

Re: OpenVMS Community License

2020-07-28 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
On Jul 28, 2020, at 4:30 PM, Chris Hanson via cctalk wrote: > > Can someone please post a link to some text describing the new licensing > program and how to apply to it? > > Just sending a video isn't useful for everyone. > > — Chris Honestly, Camiel’s answer on my one question provides

Re: OpenVMS Community License

2020-07-28 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
Can someone please post a link to some text describing the new licensing program and how to apply to it? Just sending a video isn't useful for everyone. -- Chris

Re: OpenVMS Community License

2020-07-28 Thread Jason Howe via cctalk
On 7/28/20 9:39 AM, Camiel Vanderhoeven via cctalk wrote: Not supported, sure, but it will probably work just fine. When we released 8.4-2L1 I tested it on DEC 3000 AXP and DEC 4000 AXP systems, and it ran fine on those. Kind regards, Camiel Vanderhoeven  VMS Software, Inc. R Department

Re: Any interest in "newer" hardware, software?

2020-07-28 Thread ben via cctalk
On 7/28/2020 9:11 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: On Jul 28, 2020, at 10:35 AM, Jay Jaeger via cctalk wrote: On 7/24/2020 1:36 AM, Boris Gimbarzevsky via cctalk wrote: found a box of old Univac cards which appear to be DTL with individual transistors and then go on to having DTL IC's

Re: Any interest in "newer" hardware, software?

2020-07-28 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
Fairchild part numbers trivia following. On 2020-Jul-28, at 7:35 AM, Jay Jaeger via cctalk wrote: > My DTL chips have markings like: > > DT uL93659 (Chip type 936) > F 7016 > > DT uL909759 (Chip type 9097) > F 7013 > > (I expect 7016 and 7013 are date codes. Not sure what the "59" is

Re: OpenVMS Community License

2020-07-28 Thread Camiel Vanderhoeven via cctalk
> On Jul 28, 2020, at 7:47 PM, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk > wrote: > The question that will be answered when someone gets the VSI CLP PAKs is will > those PAKS work on an older version of OpenVMS? The Hobbyist PAKs produced > by Compaq and HP have always worked on current and older

Re: OpenVMS Community License

2020-07-28 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
On 7/28/2020 11:20 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: On 7/28/20 12:01 PM, Zane Healy wrote: On Jul 28, 2020, at 7:31 AM, Michael Kerpan via cctalk wrote: This leaves those of us using VAX emulation high and dry, still. HP was unwilling to let VSE offer VAX licenses. Are there any good

Re: OpenVMS Community License

2020-07-28 Thread Camiel Vanderhoeven via cctalk
> On Jul 28, 2020, at 6:35 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk > wrote: > > On Jul 28, 2020, at 9:20 AM, Bill Gunshannon > wrote: >> >> On 7/28/20 12:01 PM, Zane Healy wrote: >>> I just applied for licenses, I’m curious to see what software is included, >>> and if it opens up a newer version of

Re: OpenVMS Community License

2020-07-28 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
On Jul 28, 2020, at 9:20 AM, Bill Gunshannon wrote: > > On 7/28/20 12:01 PM, Zane Healy wrote: >> I just applied for licenses, I’m curious to see what software is included, >> and if it opens up a newer version of OpenVMS/Alpha than HP was offering. >> I’m also wondering if these licenses

Re: OpenVMS Community License

2020-07-28 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 7/28/20 12:01 PM, Zane Healy wrote: On Jul 28, 2020, at 7:31 AM, Michael Kerpan via cctalk wrote: This leaves those of us using VAX emulation high and dry, still. HP was unwilling to let VSE offer VAX licenses. Are there any good free/cheap Alpha emulations that are at least as functional

Re: OpenVMS Community License

2020-07-28 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
On Jul 28, 2020, at 7:31 AM, Michael Kerpan via cctalk wrote: > > This leaves those of us using VAX emulation high and dry, still. HP was > unwilling to let VSE offer VAX licenses. Are there any good free/cheap > Alpha emulations that are at least as functional as SIMH is for VAX stuff? > That

Re: Any interest in "newer" hardware, software?

2020-07-28 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jul 28, 2020, at 10:35 AM, Jay Jaeger via cctalk > wrote: > > On 7/24/2020 1:36 AM, Boris Gimbarzevsky via cctalk wrote: > >> found a box of old Univac cards which appear to be DTL with individual >> transistors and then go on to having DTL IC's as well as some old IBM >> cards. Used

Re: Any interest in "newer" hardware, software?

2020-07-28 Thread Jay Jaeger via cctalk
On 7/24/2020 1:36 AM, Boris Gimbarzevsky via cctalk wrote: > found a box of old Univac cards which appear to be DTL with individual > transistors and then go on to having DTL IC's as well as some old IBM > cards.  Used to pull transistors and diodes off these to build my own > circuits 50 years

Re: OpenVMS Community License

2020-07-28 Thread Michael Kerpan via cctalk
This leaves those of us using VAX emulation high and dry, still. HP was unwilling to let VSE offer VAX licenses. Are there any good free/cheap Alpha emulations that are at least as functional as SIMH is for VAX stuff? That may be the way forward, at least until the x86 version ships. Do any of

Re: OpenVMS Community License

2020-07-28 Thread geneb via cctalk
On Tue, 28 Jul 2020, Lee Courtney via cctalk wrote: FYI...new VMS community license. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ2n2RlNVtw There's nothing indicating that in the video description or comments. You sure it's the right video? g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com

Re: OpenVMS Community License

2020-07-28 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 7/28/20 10:15 AM, Michael Kerpan via cctalk wrote: Is that the right link? The video I saw was talking about setting up failover in clusters. Mike On Tue, Jul 28, 2020, 10:04 AM Lee Courtney via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: FYI...new VMS community license.

Re: OpenVMS Community License

2020-07-28 Thread John Foust via cctalk
At 09:03 AM 7/28/2020, you wrote: >FYI...new VMS community license. > >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ2n2RlNVtw Titled "Failover Mechanism". Did you mean "VSI Community License Program" dated 7/28/2020: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCjFIASH87s

Re: OpenVMS Community License

2020-07-28 Thread Michael Kerpan via cctalk
Is that the right link? The video I saw was talking about setting up failover in clusters. Mike On Tue, Jul 28, 2020, 10:04 AM Lee Courtney via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > FYI...new VMS community license. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ2n2RlNVtw > > -- > Lee Courtney >

OpenVMS Community License

2020-07-28 Thread Lee Courtney via cctalk
FYI...new VMS community license. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ2n2RlNVtw -- Lee Courtney

CLCC68 Covers

2020-07-28 Thread Paul Birkel via cctalk
I intend to restore a pair of boards that used Intel Ceramic Leadless Chip Carrier (CLCC) parts. Unfortunately the socket covers were tossed when the boards were scavenged for their chips. The sockets and attached clips are themselves just fine. eBay item # 252830664338 is an example of this

Re: Altair 8800 reproduction

2020-07-28 Thread Tom Hunter via cctalk
I am not the most patient person. :-) While waiting for my Altair-Duino to arrive in the mail I discovered a cool JavaScript based implementation. It allows me to start playing with the Altair 8800 front panel and exercise the "machine". It does a fairly decent job. https://s2js.com/altair/

Re: Altair 8800 reproduction

2020-07-28 Thread Tom Hunter via cctalk
I thought about it long and hard. A fully configured Altair 8800c would be at least $1200 plus shipping to Australia from all the different component suppliers at least another $600. I would end up with a "real" system but some parts wouldn't quite be real. For example the floppy drives are