Re: ISO: TI 980 (not 980A or 980B) Hardware docs

2020-12-30 Thread Josh Dersch via cctalk
On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 1:53 AM osi.superboard via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Hi Josh, > > maybe this helps > > > https://pic2.avaluer.org/imgspic/a/r/k/m/r/-vintage_ti_980_ttl_based_minicomputer_w_1103_ram_boards_texas_instruments-3_27.jpg Thanks. That looks like a 980B to me.

Re: Emails going to spam folder in gmail

2020-12-30 Thread Cameron Kaiser via cctalk
> > The only conclusion I can draw is that Google is arbitrary and doesn't > > care and I'm one of the rare beneficiaries of their arbitrariness. > > I'm quite convinced that Google isn't arbitrary. It's just that there > are a LOT more variables in play than we know about, much less have >

Re: Emails going to spam folder in gmail

2020-12-30 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
And just to add on a data point (Bill, I know you're not the enemy here), one of my personally-maintained mail servers does TLS and the other doesn't, I do have proper reverse DNS but used not to, and while I have SPF I've never done DKIM, and I've never had any trouble getting mail to Gmail.

Re: Emails going to spam folder in gmail

2020-12-30 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 12/30/20 4:35 PM, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk wrote: The only conclusion I can draw is that Google is arbitrary and doesn't care and I'm one of the rare beneficiaries of their arbitrariness. I'm quite convinced that Google isn't arbitrary. It's just that there are a LOT more variables in

Re: Emails going to spam folder in gmail

2020-12-30 Thread Cameron Kaiser via cctalk
> As I said, I don't have problems sending mail to Amazon, Microsoft or any of > the large (or small) email providers except for gmail.com and other Google > email services. It really is just Google. I do have DNS properly configured, > SPF in place and no TLS. I can't be bothered setting up

Re: Emails going to spam folder in gmail

2020-12-30 Thread Nemo Nusquam via cctalk
On 12/30/20 13:55, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: On Wed, 30 Dec 2020, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: That's not true. You don't have to do the cryptographic heavy lifting on the classic computer. You can easily do the cryptographic heavy lifting on other more contemporary computers which are

Re: Emails going to spam folder in gmail

2020-12-30 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 11:35 AM Peter Corlett via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:13:40AM -0500, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: > [...] > > Attempting to pull in this thread a tad, there are relatively simple > > measures that can be taken to bring a private

Re: Emails going to spam folder in gmail

2020-12-30 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Wed, 30 Dec 2020, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: That's not true. You don't have to do the cryptographic heavy lifting on the classic computer. You can easily do the cryptographic heavy lifting on other more contemporary computers which are used as a smart host for the classic computers.

Re: ISO: TI 980 (not 980A or 980B) Hardware docs

2020-12-30 Thread Josh Dersch via cctalk
On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 2:07 AM Ethan Dicks wrote: > On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 8:23 PM Josh Dersch via cctalk > wrote: > > A straight TI 980 (not one of the later 980A or 980B variants) appeared > on > > my doorstep this afternoon. > > Interesting. Unfortunately, I have no docs (outside of

Re: Emails going to spam folder in gmail

2020-12-30 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 12/30/20 9:35 AM, Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote: This means that classic computers can no longer send email, because they don't have enough grunt to overcome this artificial barrier. That's not true. You don't have to do the cryptographic heavy lifting on the classic computer. You can

Re: Emails going to spam folder in gmail

2020-12-30 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
> > Attempting to pull in this thread a tad, there are relatively simple > measures that can be taken to bring a private mail server into compliance > with gmail, Amazon, Microsoft level mail server protocol and > authentication. Its not just gmail. The simplest measures are done with > DNS and

Re: Emails going to spam folder in gmail

2020-12-30 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:13:40AM -0500, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: [...] > Attempting to pull in this thread a tad, there are relatively simple > measures that can be taken to bring a private mail server into compliance > with gmail, Amazon, Microsoft level mail server protocol and >

Re: Emails going to spam folder in gmail

2020-12-30 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:19 AM Chris Zach via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > Attempting to pull in this thread a tad, there are relatively simple > > measures that can be taken to bring a private mail server into compliance > > with gmail, Amazon, Microsoft level mail server

Re: PDP-8 memory card on eBay?

2020-12-30 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
On 12/30/2020 5:36 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: On 12/30/20 3:19 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: Anyone recognize this card:     https://www.ebay.com/itm/313323417718 I looked, and it doesn't seem to be any of those for a PDP-11. However, I see the DRAM array is 12x4 chips, which makes

Re: Emails going to spam folder in gmail

2020-12-30 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
Attempting to pull in this thread a tad, there are relatively simple measures that can be taken to bring a private mail server into compliance with gmail, Amazon, Microsoft level mail server protocol and authentication. Its not just gmail. The simplest measures are done with DNS and TLS. Most

Re: Emails going to spam folder in gmail

2020-12-30 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
> > Of course. It makes trouble to other net users and tries to preserve > itself by hiding complaints. Life would be easier for it if it > actually tried to imitate poorly working spam catcher. > > Now imagine that there is no "off switch". It can only be persuaded by > sending email to it, but

Re: Emails going to spam folder in gmail

2020-12-30 Thread Tomasz Rola via cctalk
On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 11:25:13AM -0500, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: > >Google need to review their motto and start living by it. > > Google ditched their "Don't be evil" motto a long long time ago. Now > it's "what is best for google?". Well, I do not think goog needs to do anything other

Re: PDP-8 memory card on eBay?

2020-12-30 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 12/30/20 3:19 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: Anyone recognize this card: https://www.ebay.com/itm/313323417718 I looked, and it doesn't seem to be any of those for a PDP-11. However, I see the DRAM array is 12x4 chips, which makes me think it might be for a PDP-8? Noel

PDP-8 memory card on eBay?

2020-12-30 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
Anyone recognize this card: https://www.ebay.com/itm/313323417718 I looked, and it doesn't seem to be any of those for a PDP-11. However, I see the DRAM array is 12x4 chips, which makes me think it might be for a PDP-8? Noel

Omnibook 300 error code

2020-12-30 Thread Tomas By via cctalk
Hi all, Does anybody here know what "8041 Error: did not respond to 0AAH command" might mean? (p. 70 in the HP OmniBook 300, 425, 430, 530 Service Manual) /Tomas

Re: ISO: TI 980 (not 980A or 980B) Hardware docs

2020-12-30 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 8:23 PM Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote: > A straight TI 980 (not one of the later 980A or 980B variants) appeared on > my doorstep this afternoon. Interesting. Unfortunately, I have no docs (outside of what's on Bitsavers). Mine is the later 980A variety, FWIW, with fat

Re: ISO: TI 980 (not 980A or 980B) Hardware docs

2020-12-30 Thread osi.superboard via cctalk
Hi Josh, maybe this helps https://pic2.avaluer.org/imgspic/a/r/k/m/r/-vintage_ti_980_ttl_based_minicomputer_w_1103_ram_boards_texas_instruments-3_27.jpg Thomas Am 30.12.2020 um 01:23 schrieb Josh Dersch via cctalk: Hey all -- A straight TI 980 (not one of the later 980A or 980B variants)