Re: Looking for VAXSET Software Engineering Tools for VMS 4.x

2021-04-17 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 04/17/2021 11:24 AM, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote: If anyone has any suggestions for how to clean CDs to recover data, I'm all ears. If by the "data side" you mean the clear side the CD is read from, those can be polished with toothpaste or plastic polish. Modern CD/DVD drives are

Re: Looking for VAXSET Software Engineering Tools for VMS 4.x

2021-04-17 Thread Malte Dehling via cctalk
On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 08:33:59PM +0100, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote: > On 17/04/2021 19:35, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > On 4/17/21 11:30 AM, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote: > > > > > So far I've just tried using dd to recover the data but perhaps I > > > should try to find something

Re: Looking for VAXSET Software Engineering Tools for VMS 4.x

2021-04-17 Thread Antonio Carlini via cctalk
On 17/04/2021 19:35, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: On 4/17/21 11:30 AM, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote: So far I've just tried using dd to recover the data but perhaps I should try to find something that won't give up when the OS reports an unreadable sector. Anyone have any suggestions?

Re: Looking for VAXSET Software Engineering Tools for VMS 4.x

2021-04-17 Thread Malte Dehling via cctalk
On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 11:35:41AM -0700, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > On 4/17/21 11:30 AM, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote: > > > So far I've just tried using dd to recover the data but perhaps I should > > try to find something that won't give up when the OS reports an > > unreadable sector.

Re: Looking for VAXSET Software Engineering Tools for VMS 4.x

2021-04-17 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 4/17/21 11:30 AM, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote: So far I've just tried using dd to recover the data but perhaps I should try to find something that won't give up when the OS reports an unreadable sector. Anyone have any suggestions? ddrescue

Re: Looking for VAXSET Software Engineering Tools for VMS 4.x

2021-04-17 Thread Antonio Carlini via cctalk
On 17/04/2021 18:03, Zane Healy wrote: On Apr 17, 2021, at 9:24 AM, Antonio Carlini via cctalk mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote: If anyone has any suggestions for how to clean CDs to recover data, I'm all ears. Do you have access to a Record Store that deals in used CDs?  I know one of

Re: Looking for VAXSET Software Engineering Tools for VMS 4.x

2021-04-17 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 4/17/21 1:03 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: On Apr 17, 2021, at 9:24 AM, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote: If anyone has any suggestions for how to clean CDs to recover data, I'm all ears. Do you have access to a Record Store that deals in used CDs? I know one of our local ones

Re: Looking for VAXSET Software Engineering Tools for VMS 4.x

2021-04-17 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
On Apr 17, 2021, at 9:24 AM, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote: > > If anyone has any suggestions for how to clean CDs to recover data, I'm all > ears. Do you have access to a Record Store that deals in used CDs? I know one of our local ones used to have a machine for resurfacing CDs, at

Re: Looking for VAXSET Software Engineering Tools for VMS 4.x

2021-04-17 Thread Antonio Carlini via cctalk
On 17/04/2021 16:53, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk wrote: On 4/17/2021 2:15 AM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote: On Apr 16, 2021, at 11:38 AM, Malte Dehling via cctalk wrote: Whether VAXSET is on there or not, I would be very interested in ISOs of both of these either way! If Antonio does

Re: Looking for VAXSET Software Engineering Tools for VMS 4.x

2021-04-17 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
On 4/17/2021 2:15 AM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote: On Apr 16, 2021, at 11:38 AM, Malte Dehling via cctalk wrote: Whether VAXSET is on there or not, I would be very interested in ISOs of both of these either way! If Antonio does not mind sharing them a bit more widely, I would also like

Re: GNO and ORCA Pascal

2021-04-17 Thread John Many Jars via cctalk
0vv0 s. Picked up all the Orca > languages and have begin playing around with them but am not an expert > with them by any means. There are others with more knowledge about them > I'm sure. > > I started out (when I was a kid) on the PDP-11 at my dad's work (he was an anthropologist at ASU and

Re: Looking for VAXSET Software Engineering Tools for VMS 4.x

2021-04-17 Thread Mark J. Blair via cctalk
> On Apr 16, 2021, at 11:38 AM, Malte Dehling via cctalk > wrote: > > Whether VAXSET is on there or not, I would be very interested in ISOs of > both of these either way! If Antonio does not mind sharing them a bit more widely, I would also like to have ISOs of them. I'm interested in