Re: DEC KM11 (Was: DEC KL11)

2021-09-23 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
My notes (from sources unknown) say (of the ML11A): solid-state (ram) disk; 2MB/s xfer 1-31 arrays of 512 or 2048 blocks ea using 11/70 MK11 (MOS) memory looked like RS03/RS04 to s/w Ok, that makes sense. http://gunkies.org/wiki/RS03/04_disk_drive says about *REAL*

Re: DEC KM11 (Was: DEC KL11)

2021-09-23 Thread Phil Budne via cctalk
> But the sector format is a different matter. If it's designed for > PDP-11 and friends, presumably it has a 512 byte sector size. > For PDP-10 or -20 use you'd presumably want a sector size consisting > of some round number of 36 bit words. 576 byte sectors (128 words), IIRC. The unit of

Re: microvax/vs 2000 expansion base circuitry ?

2021-09-23 Thread Carlos E Murillo-Sanchez via cctalk
Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote: On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 6:41 PM Jonathan Stone via cctalk wrote: I've read that there is circuitry in the expansion base (BA40A?) has circuitry . Does anyone know what the circuitry does? Is it required for SCSI operation? (I hope not, or I'll have to kludge

Re: microvax/vs 2000 expansion base circuitry ?

2021-09-23 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 6:41 PM Jonathan Stone via cctalk wrote: > I've read that there is circuitry in the expansion base (BA40A?) has > circuitry . Does anyone know what the circuitry does? Is it required for > SCSI operation? (I hope not, or I'll have to kludge one up to make use of >

Re: microvax/vs 2000 expansion base circuitry ?

2021-09-23 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
> > I've read that there is circuitry in the expansion base (BA40A?) has > circuitry . Does anyone know what the circuitry does? Is it required > for SCSI operation? (I hope not, or I'll have to kludge one up to make > use of pk2k SCSI boot-roms!) > I don't know what circuitry there is or is

microvax/vs 2000 expansion base circuitry ?

2021-09-23 Thread Jonathan Stone via cctalk
I've read that there is circuitry in the expansion base (BA40A?) has circuitry . Does anyone know what the circuitry does? Is it required for SCSI operation? (I hope not, or I'll have to kludge one up to make use of pk2k SCSI boot-roms!)

Re: DEC KM11 (Was: DEC KL11)

2021-09-23 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Paul Koning > But the sector format is a different matter. If it's designed for > PDP-11 and friends, presumably it has a 512 byte sector size. For > PDP-10 or -20 use you'd presumably want a sector size consisting of > some round number of 36 bit words. Actually, the

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2021-09-23 Thread Aaron Jackson via cctalk
Subject: Re: PDP-11/73 boot issues References: <87ilytoikj@carbon.nat.rhwyd.co.uk> <87fstxohuj@carbon.nat.rhwyd.co.uk> <21789e85-2aa4-3b61-db31-b21fd8c08...@dunnington.plus.com> <87czp1obv4@carbon.nat.rhwyd.co.uk> User-agent: mu4e 0.9.18; emacs 27.2 In-reply-to:

Re: Setting up a VMS system

2021-09-23 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
On 9/23/2021 8:12 AM, Scott Quinn via cctalk wrote: On Wed, 2021-09-22 at 12:00 -0500, cctalk-requ...@classiccmp.org wrote: Currently the Hobbyist Program covers Alpha and Itanium.  We?ve been told it will cover x86 at some point.  I for one can?t wait for x86, as I don?t really want to add an

Re: Setting up a VMS system

2021-09-23 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
On 9/22/2021 7:21 AM, Philip Pemberton via cctalk wrote: Hopefully a few of the DEC/VMS fans here might be able to help! I'm on a bit of a quest. I've been given some old VAX/VMS software -- a cross compiler and some source code -- that I'd like to get running. My goal is to get the source

Re: DEC KM11 (Was: DEC KL11)

2021-09-23 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Sep 23, 2021, at 1:38 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk > wrote: > >> So I can't say whether they are 18 bit compatible. > > Huh? The KM11 doesn't plug into the UNIBUS (or QBUS); it's a MASSBUS device (a > solid-state storage device, actually), so it plugs into an RH11 or RH70 or > something

DEC KM11 (Was: DEC KL11)

2021-09-23 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Mark Kahrs There's a typo in your original Subject: line: the KL11 is a very early UNIBUS (probably the very first UNIBUS device ever, looking at the board's Mxxx number) asyn serial line interface: https://gunkies.org/wiki/KL11_asynchronous_serial_line_interface > manx tells

Re: Setting up a VMS system

2021-09-23 Thread Pete Turnbull via cctalk
On 23/09/2021 14:23, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: On Sep 23, 2021, at 9:12 AM, Scott Quinn via cctalk wrote: ... Isn't VMS DCL pretty close to RSX? Never used RSX, but that is what I was always told. I don't know how close it is to RSX, but I do know that RSTS (V9 and later) DCL was

DEC KL11

2021-09-23 Thread Mark Kahrs via cctalk
A few details for the curious: It's housed in a BA-11 box with 3 controller cards. The Massbus paddles fit into that box and terminate in flat ribbon cable, not the massive cables. The DRAM chips are 4116s. manx tells me that these documents were known to exist: PartTitleStatus EK-0ML11-TD

Re: Setting up a VMS system

2021-09-23 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Sep 23, 2021, at 9:12 AM, Scott Quinn via cctalk > wrote: > ... > Isn't VMS DCL pretty close to RSX? Never used RSX, but that is what I > was always told. I don't know how close it is to RSX, but I do know that RSTS (V9 and later) DCL was explicitly modeled on VMS DCL, including the

Re: Setting up a VMS system

2021-09-23 Thread Scott Quinn via cctalk
On Wed, 2021-09-22 at 12:00 -0500, cctalk-requ...@classiccmp.org wrote: > Currently the Hobbyist Program covers Alpha and Itanium.  We?ve been > told it will cover x86 at some point.  I for one can?t wait for x86, > as I don?t really want to add an Itanium to run some of the newer > software. > >