Re: Core memory

2022-04-01 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Apr 1, 2022, at 5:13 PM, Brent Hilpert via cctalk > wrote: > > On 2022-Apr-01, at 11:51 AM, Paul Koning wrote: >>> On Apr 1, 2022, at 2:38 PM, Brent Hilpert via cctalk >>> wrote: >>> On 2022-Apr-01, at 6:02 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: >>> When I looked at that ebay listing

Re: Glass memory?

2022-04-01 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 4/1/22 16:17, Mike Stein via cctalk wrote: Hey, I've got one of those somewhere (the delay line, not the terminal ;-) )! I do still use the cabinet as a desk, as well as a few parts here and there; to think that today something like an Arduino nano can replace that desk-sized cabinet containi

Re: Core memory

2022-04-01 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2022-Apr-01, at 11:51 AM, Paul Koning wrote: >> On Apr 1, 2022, at 2:38 PM, Brent Hilpert via cctalk >> wrote: >> On 2022-Apr-01, at 6:02 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: >> >>> When I looked at that ebay listing of "glass memory" it pointed me to >>> another item,https://www.ebay.com/itm/2

Re: Glass memory?

2022-04-01 Thread Mike Stein via cctalk
Hey, I've got one of those somewhere (the delay line, not the terminal ;-) )! I do still use the cabinet as a desk, as well as a few parts here and there; to think that today something like an Arduino nano can replace that desk-sized cabinet containing a substantial power supply and a card cage wi

Re: Core memory

2022-04-01 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Apr 1, 2022, at 3:38 PM, Joshua Rice wrote: > > > >> On Apr 1, 2022, at 7:51 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> Neat looking stuff. It doesn't look like core rope memory in the sense of >> the AGC ROM, nor in the sense of the Electrologica X1. It looks more like >> the tr

Re: Core memory

2022-04-01 Thread Joshua Rice via cctalk
> On Apr 1, 2022, at 7:51 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk > wrote: > > Neat looking stuff. It doesn't look like core rope memory in the sense of > the AGC ROM, nor in the sense of the Electrologica X1. It looks more like > the transformer memory used in Wang calculators that you documented in

Re: Core memory

2022-04-01 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
On 4/1/2022 11:51 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: On Apr 1, 2022, at 2:38 PM, Brent Hilpert via cctalk wrote: On 2022-Apr-01, at 6:02 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: When I looked at that ebay listing of "glass memory" it pointed me to another item, https://www.ebay.com/itm/2656236

Re: Core memory

2022-04-01 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Apr 1, 2022, at 2:38 PM, Brent Hilpert via cctalk > wrote: > > On 2022-Apr-01, at 6:02 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > >> When I looked at that ebay listing of "glass memory" it pointed me to >> another item, https://www.ebay.com/itm/265623663142 -- described as "core >> rope memo

Re: Core memory

2022-04-01 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2022-Apr-01, at 6:02 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > When I looked at that ebay listing of "glass memory" it pointed me to another > item, https://www.ebay.com/itm/265623663142 -- described as "core rope > memory". Obviously it isn't -- it's conventional core RAM. Interestingly > enoug

Re: Glass memory?

2022-04-01 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2022-Apr-01, at 10:52 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > On 4/1/22 10:27, Paul Koning wrote: >> >>> On Apr 1, 2022, at 1:25 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk >>> wrote: >>> >>> Wasn't some of this glass delay line memory used in early raster-scanned >>> computer video displays? >> >> I don't know

Re: Glass memory?

2022-04-01 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2022-Apr-01, at 5:54 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: >> On Apr 1, 2022, at 2:56 AM, Mark Huffstutter via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> https://archive.org/details/TNM_Glass_computer_memories_-_Corning_Electronics_20171206_0185 > ... > That Corning document is also interesting because of its compar

Re: Glass memory?

2022-04-01 Thread -Gary via cctalk
Oregon Status University constructed a general purpose computer (Nebula) in the mid 60s that used Corning glass delay lines both to construct a 4k x 34 bit main memory with an auxillary 2k Content Addressable Memory with 32 bits plus some 'tag' bits. Al archived a copy of the hardware manual o

Re: Glass memory?

2022-04-01 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 4/1/22 10:27, Paul Koning wrote: > > >> On Apr 1, 2022, at 1:25 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> Wasn't some of this glass delay line memory used in early raster-scanned >> computer video displays? > > I don't know about that one, but a delay line is a key component of a PAL > (E

Re: Glass memory?

2022-04-01 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Apr 1, 2022, at 1:25 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk > wrote: > > Wasn't some of this glass delay line memory used in early raster-scanned > computer video displays? I don't know about that one, but a delay line is a key component of a PAL (European) system color TV receiver. paul

Re: Glass memory?

2022-04-01 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
Wasn't some of this glass delay line memory used in early raster-scanned computer video displays? --Chuck

Re: PDP 11/24 - A Step Backwards

2022-04-01 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Brent Hilpert >> ACLO is only used to trigger a 'power-failing' interrupt; CPU >> operation is otherwise un-affected by ACLO (so the CPU can get ready). >> DEC P/S's carefully sequence ACLO and DCLO such that on power-down, >> ACLO is asserted first (to allow the CPU t

Core memory

2022-04-01 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
When I looked at that ebay listing of "glass memory" it pointed me to another item, https://www.ebay.com/itm/265623663142 -- described as "core rope memory". Obviously it isn't -- it's conventional core RAM. Interestingly enough, it seems to be three-wire memory (no inhibit line that I can see

Re: Glass memory?

2022-04-01 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Apr 1, 2022, at 2:56 AM, Mark Huffstutter via cctalk > wrote: > > Here is some pretty good information. > > https://archive.org/details/TNM_Glass_computer_memories_-_Corning_Electronics_20171206_0185 > > Mark Interesting stuff. When I saw Corning I thought glass fiber (optical pulse

Re: PDP 11/24 - A Step Backwards

2022-04-01 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2022-Mar-31, at 7:44 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: >> From: Brent Hilpert >> DCLO & ACLO behave as power-on-reset signals to the system. > > Minor nit: actually, I think it's DCLO which performs that function in a lot > of places; see e.g. the latches on pg. K2 (pg. 153 of the PDF) and K7. (INIT, > u

RE: Glass memory?

2022-04-01 Thread Mark Huffstutter via cctalk
That's where I first learned about SAW devices, in Broadcasting. Used to maintain Ikegami 79D ENG field cameras, Ike used them As H line delays to construct a mask signal of sorts to generate A Horizontal edge signal, which was applied to the video signal To add a "Detail" enhancement for sharpenin

Re: Glass memory?

2022-04-01 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2022-Mar-31, at 8:05 PM, Anders Nelson via cctech wrote: > Hey all, found this on eBay: > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/Corning-Glass-memory-/125087612899 > > I can't find any info on it - was it some kind of delay-line or magnetic > laminate stack? > > Interesting! Very interesting - there we

Re: Glass memory?

2022-04-01 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2022-Mar-31, at 11:56 PM, Mark Huffstutter via cctalk wrote: > -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Brent > Hilpert via cctalk > Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2022 11:53 PM > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: