Re: PCI floppy controller

2022-04-22 Thread Tom Hunter via cctalk
I am curious about your comment about "kryoflux going south". I did not hear about any problems. Could you please elaborate? I got mine about 2 or 3 years ago and it did everything I needed at the time, but haven't used it since. Thanks Tom On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 9:19 AM Warner Losh via cctalk

Re: PCI floppy controller

2022-04-22 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 4/22/22 18:43, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > I guess I'll find out.  I just ordered one.  Shipping is almost as much > as the device. :-( > > Still think I will look into what it would take to access floppies > from an Arduino.  They're fun to play with, too. As far as I am aware, none

Re: PCI floppy controller

2022-04-22 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
Isn't that what Greaseweasel  and similar do? I have a kyroflux that I use to read floppies on my macbook. It can write as well and understands a ton of formats. Greaseweasel is more available and supported (I got my kyroflux before things went south, so wouldn't recommend others get one these d

Re: PCI floppy controller

2022-04-22 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Fri, 22 Apr 2022, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: As another person with a desire to be able to read/write/create disks of different sizes and formats I have found this interesting. So the question, then How hard would it be to make a floppy disk interface using an Arduino or even Rasber

Re: PCI floppy controller

2022-04-22 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 4/22/22 21:19, Warner Losh wrote: On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 7:07 PM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote: As another person with a desire to be able to read/write/create disks of different sizes and formats I have found this interesting. So the quest

Re: PCI floppy controller

2022-04-22 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 7:07 PM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > As another person with a desire to be able to read/write/create > disks of different sizes and formats I have found this interesting. > > So the question, then > > How hard would it be to make a flop

RE: Advice on Desoldering an IC

2022-04-22 Thread W2HX via cctalk
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Re: PCI floppy controller

2022-04-22 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
As another person with a desire to be able to read/write/create disks of different sizes and formats I have found this interesting. So the question, then How hard would it be to make a floppy disk interface using an Arduino or even RasberryPi? If you could do that the choices of interface

Re: PCI floppy controller

2022-04-22 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Fri, 22 Apr 2022, Maciej W. Rozycki via cctalk wrote: You can of course build a PCI FDD interface around the NEC uPD765 or an equivalent controller, but you can't make it compatible with existing PC software, because too much PC specifics has been embedded there around the 8237 DMA controller

Re: Selling my 026/029 IBM punch card control drum ($150)

2022-04-22 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
I picked one up several years ago for my 029.  maybe 25 or 30 bucks. I also grabbed a couple of the cylinders that were used to put legends on cards, which were around.  Never knew exactly what process used them, but the look cool. On 4/22/2022 3:16 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 4/22

Re: PCI floppy controller

2022-04-22 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 4/22/22 15:47, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote: > On Thu, 21 Apr 2022, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > >> I suppose it might be possible to fashion a legacy floppy controller on >> a PCI card with enough supporting logic to make it compatible with >> existing software, but I'm not aware of such an effo

Re: PCI floppy controller

2022-04-22 Thread Maciej W. Rozycki via cctalk
On Thu, 21 Apr 2022, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > I suppose it might be possible to fashion a legacy floppy controller on > a PCI card with enough supporting logic to make it compatible with > existing software, but I'm not aware of such an effort. You can of course build a PCI FDD interface

Re: Selling my 026/029 IBM punch card control drum ($150)

2022-04-22 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 4/22/22 14:37, Lee Courtney via cctalk wrote: >> Works fine. Good Condition. > > Doesn't say whether it includes power cord or not? You'd figure that there would be buckets of these things around. Many keypunch pools would have several of them for each keypunch, preloaded with cards for appr

Re: Selling my 026/029 IBM punch card control drum ($150)

2022-04-22 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
Works fine. Good Condition. On Fri, 22 Apr 2022, Lee Courtney via cctalk wrote: Doesn't say whether it includes power cord or not? 😸 Wouldn't matter. There aren't any Windows 10 drivers for its PCI card.

Re: Selling my 026/029 IBM punch card control drum ($150)

2022-04-22 Thread Lee Courtney via cctalk
> Works fine. Good Condition. Doesn't say whether it includes power cord or not? 😸 Lee Courtney On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 12:41 AM Christian Corti via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On Thu, 21 Apr 2022, Barry Hills wrote: > > Selling my 026/029 IBM punch card control drum ($150) > > Th

Re: PCI floppy controller

2022-04-22 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 4/22/22 1:26 PM, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: Swearing about it doesn't make it so. Agreed. Though swearing about it does speak to how strongly I /thought/ it was the case. Clearly I was wrong. It's only been about two decades since I would have messed with this. Maybe my grey matter

Re: PCI floppy controller

2022-04-22 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 11:25 AM Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > > I'd swear that I've used a PCI Adaptec card with a floppy controller. > 2942 comes to mind. Swearing about it doesn't make it so. Are there any Adaptec SCSI controllers other than the various flavors of these models which have

Re: PCI floppy controller

2022-04-22 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 12:25 PM Grant Taylor via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On 4/22/22 11:46 AM, Warner Losh via cctalk wrote: > > By the time there were PCI Adaptec cards, there was no longer a floppy > > controller on them that I ever saw. As others have pointed out, > > though, it

Re: PCI floppy controller

2022-04-22 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 at 19:11, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > > Back in the 90s, we bought these things by the carton, modified them to > work with Japanese DOS 2.0 format (PC98) 3.5" floppies, rewrote the > drivers, added a VxD for Win3.1 compatibility and sold a bunch of them. > Popular with so

Re: Advice on Desoldering an IC

2022-04-22 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 4/22/22 12:03 PM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote: I decided to invest in a Hakko FR-301. It worked almost immediately. Hours of trying before, I did it in 10 minutes! Thank you for the feedback and the comparison of without and with it. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

Re: PCI floppy controller

2022-04-22 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 4/22/22 11:46 AM, Warner Losh via cctalk wrote: By the time there were PCI Adaptec cards, there was no longer a floppy controller on them that I ever saw. As others have pointed out, though, it would need special drivers and/or BIOS support because PCI devices mixed poorly with ISA DMA that

RE: Advice on Desoldering an IC

2022-04-22 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
I decided to invest in a Hakko FR-301. It worked almost immediately. Hours of trying before, I did it in 10 minutes! Regards Rob > -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of dwight via cctalk > Sent: 16 April 2022 14:00 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > Su

Re: PCI floppy controller

2022-04-22 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 7:54 PM Grant Taylor via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On 4/21/22 5:47 PM, Charles Dickman via cctalk wrote: > > Were there ever any floppy controllers for the (parallel) PCI bus? > > Didn't some of the Adaptec SCSI cards have a floppy controller on them? > > Cou

Re: PCI floppy controller

2022-04-22 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 4/22/22 04:44, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > The company did a range of parallel-port storage drives: CDs, tape > drives and so on. Most were slow but worked, but the floppy drives > were quite a good option at the time for things like laptops which > couldn't accept another drive or controll

Re: PCI floppy controller

2022-04-22 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 at 13:44, Liam Proven wrote: > 5¼": > https://www.amazon.com/MICRO-SOLUTION-1-44MB-Backpack-Parallel/dp/B512MS Oops, sorry, badly-chosen link. Both of those are, of course, 3½ drives. The company *did* also offer 5¼" units, though, as did others... https://www.vogons.org

Re: PCI floppy controller

2022-04-22 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 at 01:48, Charles Dickman via cctalk wrote: > > Were there ever any floppy controllers for the (parallel) PCI bus? Floppy *controllers*, no. Floppy *drives*, yes. The Backpack range were the most well-known, I'd say. e.g. 5¼": https://www.amazon.com/MICRO-SOLUTION-1-44MB-Ba

Re: interesting DEC Pro stuff on eBay

2022-04-22 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 07:12:07PM -0400, Sean Conner via cctalk wrote: [...] > Agree here. I loved the 68K and have fond memories of writing programs in > it. But while the x86 has been Frankensteined into 64 bits, I don't think > I can see the 68K ever being a 64-bit architecture. I don't think t

Re: Selling my 026/029 IBM punch card control drum ($150)

2022-04-22 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Thu, 21 Apr 2022, Barry Hills wrote: Selling my 026/029 IBM punch card control drum ($150) Thanks, I had a good lough :-D Christian