[cctalk] Re: The World Wide Web

2023-05-04 Thread Lars Brinkhoff via cctalk
geneb wrote: > Patrick Finnegan wrote: >> It seems like all of the good USENET providers are subscription >> services now. > You can get free access via http://www.eternal-september.org/ There's also news.dotsrc.org. (formerly sunsite.dk)

[cctalk] Re: The World Wide Web

2023-05-04 Thread geneb via cctalk
On Thu, 4 May 2023, Mike Katz via cctalk wrote: True but I don't miss 53K bps analog POTS modem speeds. My Internet varies between 700Mbps and 950Mbps.  I don't miss analog modem days in the least.  There is no nostalgia there. Best of both worlds: https://tempestfpga.com/retromodem/ :)

[cctalk] Re: The World Wide Web

2023-05-04 Thread Mike Katz via cctalk
True but I don't miss 53K bps analog POTS modem speeds. My Internet varies between 700Mbps and 950Mbps.  I don't miss analog modem days in the least.  There is no nostalgia there. I consider analog modems similar to out houses.  An interesting historical factoid but not something to be

[cctalk] Re: The World Wide Web

2023-05-04 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 1:46 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > On 5/4/23 13:23, geneb via cctalk wrote: > >> You can get free access via http://www.eternal-september.org/, however > >> they don't carry any binary groups. (no loss really) > > On Thu, 4 May 2023, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > >

[cctalk] Re: The World Wide Web

2023-05-04 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On 5/4/23 13:23, geneb via cctalk wrote: You can get free access via http://www.eternal-september.org/, however they don't carry any binary groups. (no loss really) On Thu, 4 May 2023, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: That's useful to know--I haven't been on usenet in perhaps 40 years. That's

[cctalk] Re: The World Wide Web

2023-05-04 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 5/4/23 13:23, geneb via cctalk wrote: > You can get free access via http://www.eternal-september.org/, however > they don't carry any binary groups. (no loss really) > That's useful to know--I haven't been on usenet in perhaps 40 years. --Chuck

[cctalk] Re: The World Wide Web

2023-05-04 Thread geneb via cctalk
On Thu, 4 May 2023, Patrick Finnegan via cctalk wrote: It seems like all of the good USENET providers are subscription services now. I'm not sure of any ISP that I've heard of who still runs one. You can get free access via http://www.eternal-september.org/, however they don't carry any

[cctalk] Re: The World Wide Web

2023-05-04 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 5/4/2023 1:41 PM, Johan Helsingius via cctalk wrote: Unfortunately my local ISP doesn't run a server any more. :( Doesn't have to be local.  I use a server in Berlin. Back in the 80's I used to run the USENET (and UUCP) gateway for Finland. I used to run a server at the University

[cctalk] Re: The World Wide Web

2023-05-04 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
Thanks! Wow, they even provide UUCP batches! Julf On 04/05/2023 20:00, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: On Thu, 4 May 2023 at 18:49, Johan Helsingius via cctalk wrote: Unfortunately my local ISP doesn't run a server any more. :( I use Eternal September, via Thunderbird. Works very

[cctalk] Re: The World Wide Web

2023-05-04 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 4 May 2023 at 18:49, Johan Helsingius via cctalk wrote: > > Unfortunately my local ISP doesn't run a server any more. :( I use Eternal September, via Thunderbird. Works very well. Password requirements are annoying, and the initial setup is very non-intuitive, but follow the

[cctalk] Re: The World Wide Web

2023-05-04 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
A shame. :( Julf On 04/05/2023 19:51, Patrick Finnegan wrote: It seems like all of the good USENET providers are subscription services now. I'm not sure of any ISP that I've heard of who still runs one. Pat On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 1:49 PM Johan Helsingius via cctalk wrote:

[cctalk] Re: The World Wide Web

2023-05-04 Thread Patrick Finnegan via cctalk
It seems like all of the good USENET providers are subscription services now. I'm not sure of any ISP that I've heard of who still runs one. Pat On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 1:49 PM Johan Helsingius via cctalk wrote: > > Unfortunately my local ISP doesn't run a server any more. :( > > Back in the

[cctalk] Re: The World Wide Web

2023-05-04 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
Unfortunately my local ISP doesn't run a server any more. :( Back in the 80's I used to run the USENET (and UUCP) gateway for Finland. Julf On 04/05/2023 18:47, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: On 5/4/2023 10:35 AM, Johan Helsingius via cctalk wrote: On 04/05/2023 14:59, geneb via

[cctalk] Re: The World Wide Web

2023-05-04 Thread Andrew Diller via cctalk
Fidonet is def. a thing. There is a New Zealand group- FSXnet - that I found when researching how to actually _join_ a Fidonet network. Docs for this from the pov of someone that has never done it are few. I.E. it seem very hard to find direction to join into Fidonet unless you are already

[cctalk] Re: The World Wide Web

2023-05-04 Thread geneb via cctalk
On Thu, 4 May 2023, Warner Losh wrote: On Thu, May 4, 2023, 6:59 AM geneb via cctalk wrote: On Wed, 3 May 2023, Mike Katz via cctalk wrote: Don't forget fidonet (a network of bulletin board systems). FidoNet is still a thing too. I'm the NC of Net 138. (which sadly, is now just myself

[cctalk] Re: The World Wide Web

2023-05-04 Thread Mike Katz via cctalk
Running over POTS has it's appeal from a historical standpoint but from a speed standpoint IP is orders of magnitude faster. I think the term I was looking for is Fidonet Echomail Co-ordinator.  And net 115 was the Chicago area. On 5/4/2023 10:30 AM, geneb wrote: On Thu, 4 May 2023, Mike

[cctalk] Re: The World Wide Web

2023-05-04 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 5/4/2023 10:35 AM, Johan Helsingius via cctalk wrote: On 04/05/2023 14:59, geneb via cctalk wrote: FidoNet is still a thing too. So is USENET. Julf I was going to jump in and say this but you beat me to it. I am involved in stuff on USENET all the time.  Many groups have been

[cctalk] Re: The World Wide Web

2023-05-04 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Thu, May 4, 2023, 6:59 AM geneb via cctalk wrote: > On Wed, 3 May 2023, Mike Katz via cctalk wrote: > > > Don't forget fidonet (a network of bulletin board systems). > > > FidoNet is still a thing too. I'm the NC of Net 138. (which sadly, is now > just myself and a couple of other nodes.) >

[cctalk] Re: The World Wide Web

2023-05-04 Thread geneb via cctalk
On Thu, 4 May 2023, Mike Katz wrote: I closed down my BBS nearly 30 years ago.  I ran Bit Wiz Opus (115/689) for a long time.   I've forgotten what it was called in FidoNet but my system was the gateway for net 115 to the back bone for several years.  At a telephone cost of over $100/month. 

[cctalk] Re: The World Wide Web

2023-05-04 Thread Ethan O'Toole via cctalk
FidoNet is still a thing too. So is USENET. Julf And bigger than ever (storage size wise.) - Ethan -- : Ethan O'Toole

[cctalk] Re: The World Wide Web

2023-05-04 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
On 04/05/2023 14:59, geneb via cctalk wrote: FidoNet is still a thing too. So is USENET. Julf

[cctalk] Re: The World Wide Web

2023-05-04 Thread Mike Katz via cctalk
I closed down my BBS nearly 30 years ago.  I ran Bit Wiz Opus (115/689) for a long time.   I've forgotten what it was called in FidoNet but my system was the gateway for net 115 to the back bone for several years.  At a telephone cost of over $100/month.  I shut it down sometime in the early

[cctalk] Re: The World Wide Web

2023-05-04 Thread geneb via cctalk
On Wed, 3 May 2023, Mike Katz via cctalk wrote: Don't forget fidonet (a network of bulletin board systems). FidoNet is still a thing too. I'm the NC of Net 138. (which sadly, is now just myself and a couple of other nodes.) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The