[cctalk] Re: Forth on the HP 3000: Alternate History

2024-01-16 Thread Gavin Scott via cctalk
On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 5:53 AM Rodney Brown via cctalk wrote: > Anthony Pepin provided a Forth to the HP3000 Contributed Library in > September 1982, though I think his looks like a virtual machine, I don't > remember trying it in the day. > Thanks to Gavin Scott's "system" and J. David

[cctalk] Re: Forth on the HP 3000: Alternate History

2024-01-16 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
On 16/01/2024 16:29, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: I suppose it's easier on byte-oriented machines but it seems doable on others. ANSI FORTH may be helpful for this, since it explicitly distinguishes between "character address" and "cell address" (meaning word address). Good point - that

[cctalk] Re: Forth on the HP 3000: Alternate History

2024-01-16 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jan 16, 2024, at 10:13 AM, Johan Helsingius via cctalk > wrote: > > On 16/01/2024 16:04, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > >> FORTH by its nature actually fits well in Harvard architectures. > > Indeed - but it really doesn't fit machines that aren't byte-oriented. > I started on

[cctalk] Re: Forth on the HP 3000: Alternate History

2024-01-16 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
On 16/01/2024 16:04, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: FORTH by its nature actually fits well in Harvard architectures. Indeed - but it really doesn't fit machines that aren't byte-oriented. I started on porting FIG-FORTH to the PDP-10 architecture but quickly abandoned the effort...

[cctalk] Re: The Sinclair QL's legacy at 40

2024-01-16 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jan 16, 2024, at 9:42 AM, Nigel Johnson Ham via cctalk > wrote: > > ... > https://www.theregister.com/2020/08/24/who_me_pdp_11_election/ That reminded me of the Lawrence University PDP-11/20 (running RSTS V4A under very high loads). It tended to crash roughly every 24 hours. DEC

[cctalk] Re: Forth on the HP 3000: Alternate History

2024-01-16 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jan 16, 2024, at 6:52 AM, Rodney Brown via cctalk > wrote: > > Forth was ported to an HP-2100 in 1972, by Elizabeth Rather, so had early > history on HP hardware, though from what I can it it was never a product > available from HP. > I don't know if Forth Inc ever supported Forth on HP

[cctalk] Re: The Sinclair QL's legacy at 40

2024-01-16 Thread Nigel Johnson Ham via cctalk
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[cctalk] The Sinclair QL's legacy at 40

2024-01-16 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
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[cctalk] Forth on the HP 3000: Alternate History

2024-01-16 Thread Rodney Brown via cctalk
Forth was ported to an HP-2100 in 1972, by Elizabeth Rather, so had early history on HP hardware, though from what I can it it was never a product available from HP. I don't know if Forth Inc ever supported Forth on HP machines. Anthony Pepin provided a Forth to the HP3000 Contributed Library in