[cctalk] Re: VCF SoCal

2024-02-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 at 18:35, Henry Bent via cctalk wrote: To answer a different part of the question that I missed first time around: > As an American it's true that the vast majority of my vintage computer > experience is completely americentric, but I'm aware that Acorn had a > significant pr

[cctalk] Re: VCF SoCal

2024-02-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 at 19:05, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: > Probably because Americans in Futtbuck, Idaho never heard of any British > computers but Brits certainly knew about American computers, eh wot? Oh, yes, naturally! It is something of a national characteristic, though. I had someo

[cctalk] Re: VCF SoCal

2024-02-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 at 19:15, mark audacity romberg via cctalk wrote: > > BBC BASIC is the best BASIC there ever was, and I feel sad for those who have > never used it to see how powerful BASIC can be with proper structured > programming. It’s honestly like a different language. Strongly concur

[cctalk] Re: VCF SoCal

2024-02-05 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 at 21:01, Marvin Johnston via cctalk wrote: > > Note to those people too lazy to update their subject line... Oh come on, you can't say that and not quote properly. For just me, I intentionally don't do it. For better or worse, Gmail is the best webmail I know if, it does plai

Re: Full immersion emulation

2017-03-02 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On 2 March 2017 at 01:55, ben via cctalk wrote: > Well we talk to tablets and phones now, how long before they talk back? A short list of shipping products that do that: Amazon Echo https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01GAGVIE4/ Google Home https://madeby.google.com/home/ Microsoft Cortana https://ww

Re: Full immersion emulation

2017-03-03 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On 2 March 2017 at 17:11, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > And, it will reach a level of reliability to actually be usable, "in a few > more years". "next year in jerusalem!" I haven't tried either the Google or Amazon offerings. I have tried to teach my elderly mother to use Siri and Google speec

Re: Binary keypad front panel

2017-03-04 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On 3 March 2017 at 20:58, John Wilson via cctalk wrote: > I'd give Gerbers to anyone who cares > but really it's just a dumb joke. Fun one though. Heh. Cool. :¬) -- Liam Proven • Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • Google Mail/Talk/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/F

Re: Atari 1400XL for sale...

2017-03-07 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On 7 March 2017 at 04:22, Craig.B Mitchell via cctalk wrote: > Hi, is your 1400xl still for sale? If so, what are you looking to get? Who are you asking? You just posted to a thousand people on a mailing list. -- Liam Proven • Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • Go

Re: Still Looking For AT&T 3B2 Internals Docs

2017-03-07 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On 7 March 2017 at 01:09, Jerry Kemp via cctalk wrote: > Much in relationship, to, at least at one time, the Novell Netware system > sat on top of DOS. Very very kinda sortof. Netware 2 could cold-boot itself. Netware 3 & 4 needed DOS as a bootloader. If you wanted, you could issue a command:

Re: Full immersion emulation

2017-03-10 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On 9 March 2017 at 17:22, Ray Arachelian wrote: > > Now that the cat's out of the bag, how soon before you can tell your > smart TV "Dear CIA, I'm hungry, can you send over a pizza pls, k thx bye" :-D Or the XCKD version: https://xkcd.com/1807/ -- Liam Proven • Profile: https://about.me/liam

10x life size sculpture of a ZX Spectrum PCB

2017-03-10 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
Since, to my pleased surprise, this has been a runaway hit on Facebook, I thought I'd reshare it here. My friend Roger took a picture of this sculpture at the Jerwood Gallery in Hastings on the south coast of England: https://www.flickr.com/photos/25143643@N07/32505083723 It's a piece called "A

Tape reel data recovery from MERA-400 polish computer

2017-03-10 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
http://museo.freaknet.org/en/recupero-dati-nastri-magnetici-del-computer-polacco-mera-400/ -- Liam Proven • Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • Google Mail/Talk/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven • Skype/LinkedIn/AIM/Yahoo: liamproven UK: +44 7939

Re: Looking to re-home some NeXT hardware

2017-03-10 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On 9 March 2017 at 01:21, Ian Finder via cctalk wrote: > Is someone testing a Markov chainer on the list? If so, you have some more > work to do... It would explain the resolute & total failure of our efforts to explain top-quoting to him. Er, to it. -- Liam Proven • Profile: https://about.me/

Fwd: [rescue] Major Clearout (UK LN11) - REDUX

2017-03-13 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
Forwarding a message that might be of interest to list members... -- Liam Proven • Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • Google Mail/Talk/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven • Skype/LinkedIn/AIM/Yahoo: liamproven UK: +44 7939-087884 • ČR/WhatsApp/Tel

Re: Pair of Twiggys

2017-03-15 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On 15 March 2017 at 02:23, Chris Hanson via cctalk wrote: > A lot of research and development went into the Lisa and Macintosh > interfaces. They weren’t just “copied from Xerox.” If you sit someone who > knows how to use a Mac in front of a circa-1979 Xerox Alto, they’ll be pretty > mystified.

Re: Pair of Twiggys

2017-03-15 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On 15 March 2017 at 14:17, geneb via cctalk wrote: > Well hooray for Xerox. Apple still obtained the concepts from Xerox, > regardless of the mechanism. Only some and only very basic ones. Icons for files, the "OK" and "Cancel" buttons, scroll bars, all kinds of utterly basic stuff were invente

Re: Pair of Twiggys

2017-03-15 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On 15 March 2017 at 18:19, js--- via cctalk wrote: > Maybe cognitive delay is a good thing. Separates the wheat from the chaff. > > Eg. "God forbid" there be automobiles with only one button (start). Heh! Good point. -- Liam Proven • Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co

Re: Pair of Twiggys

2017-03-20 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On 15 March 2017 at 18:40, Josh Dersch wrote: > The Star introduced the concept of icons representing files (and other > things) in 1981. Smalltalk invented scrollbars (they were clumsier than > Apple's though) in the mid 70s. > > Also, don't forget that the Mac was designed by a number of ex-PAR

Re: Pair of Twiggys

2017-03-20 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On 15 March 2017 at 18:50, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > Steve Capps was the only person on the original Mac team who worked at PARC. Larry Tesler Tom Molloy Bruce Horn Op cit -- http://www.mac-history.net/computer-history/2012-03-22/apple-and-xerox-parc/3 I may be muddling the Mac and Lisa t

Re: Pair of Twiggys

2017-03-20 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On 15 March 2017 at 20:05, geneb via cctalk wrote: > Why? The old nonsense still works! I gotta bring it out now and again to > keep the rust off and the joints moving freely. :) :-D > ITYM, "more buttons confuse those with cognitive delay". :) This isn't a great citation, but here's an exam

Re: Pair of Twiggys

2017-03-20 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On 15 March 2017 at 20:15, Warner Losh via cctalk wrote: > Android runs a hacked BSD libc on top of a linux kernel. More than a bit of an oversimplification. Android has its own libc. It contains some portions from the BSD one, but is not a modified version. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bionic

Re: Pair of Twiggys

2017-03-22 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On 21 March 2017 at 18:32, Ray Arachelian via cctalk wrote: > (And meanwhile AAPL is busy, or was, getting rid of all GPL stuff in its > OS.) Darwin is mostly BSD-licensed and includes significant quantities of code from FreeBSD, which is why Apple hired Jordan Hubbard. I'm not aware of any sign

Re: Floating point routines for the 6809

2017-03-28 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On 28 March 2017 at 08:54, jim stephens via cctalk wrote: > I need to scrounge around Hmm. That is not a possible usage of "scrounge" the way I know it. You can't scrounge something you already have. It doesn't mean "search for", it means "to pilfer", to get something off someone by the pretence

Re: Scrounging - was Floating point routines for the 6809

2017-03-29 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On 28 March 2017 at 18:58, Mike Stein via cctalk wrote: > Maybe it has a slightly different connotation on this side of the pond; I > don't think it would mean "borderline theft" for most people. I did Google it first! :-) Note definition 1 here: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/scro

Re: Scrounging - was Floating point routines for the 6809

2017-03-29 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On 29 March 2017 at 17:05, Toby Thain via cctalk wrote: > But you must have overlooked the intransitive definition below: "to search > about and turn up something needed from whatever source is available". > > I'm pretty sure that's the sense Jim was using (and it's certainly not > restricted to N

HISTORY OF COMPUTER DESIGN: THE MOST INNOVATIVE AND UNCONVENTIONAL PCS EVER MADE

2017-04-03 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
This series of articles focuses mainly on physical design, of cases and so on, but there are some technical details in the articles too. Note that this is the landing page -- at the bottom of the page are links to other articles in the Inexhibit series, such as the Holborn 9100 and Olivetti Progra

Re: Bitsavers size

2017-04-24 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On 23 April 2017 at 16:53, Alexander Schreiber via cctalk wrote: > Or a single LTO3 cartridge, with room to spare ;-) So what we need to do is calculate the bandwidth of a truck full of LTO-3 tapes hurtling down a highway, surely? -- Liam Proven • Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lp

Run/Stop switch from a Soviet S/370 clone

2017-04-28 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
My flatmate has one of these. Just the small subassembly with the 2 push-buttons and a red light between them. Is this something that would be of interest to anyone? I'm trying to persuade him to eBay it instead of throwing it away. We've also got the plastic covers from a few disk packs, an empty

Beautifully-posed photos of various kinds of retro kit

2017-05-03 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
>From the Apple ][ up to PowerMac G4s. So, possibly a bit new for many of you folk, but I enjoyed them and thought others might too. http://podstawczynski.com/retro/beauty_shots.html -- Liam Proven • Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • Google Mail/Talk/Plus: lpro...@g

The inventor of the ARM chip donates first computer he ever built (40min video)

2017-05-03 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
https://youtu.be/8_33Yv5LsSs Professor Steve Thurber -- co-inventor of the ARM processor, the BBC Micro and much more -- donates his first ever computer, and arguably the first prototype of the BBC Micro, to The Centre for Computing History in this fascinating (& very cute) video. https://youtu.be

Re: Beautifully-posed photos of various kinds of retro kit

2017-05-05 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On 3 May 2017 at 21:03, wrote: > great to see things displayed in a 'setting' rather than just > computers on shelves! :-) I was just relaying the link -- it's not my work. I sold or gave away most of my Macs before I switched countries 3y ago, and the rest of my vintage kit is in boxes in

Locust 1-2-3

2017-05-10 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
This came up recently due to a small coincidence. Does anyone remember this early MS-DOS game for PC compatibles? It was designed to look exactly like the spreadsheet, so you could play in the office, but you had to "shoot" falling numbers by doing arithmetic... It looked just like a mockup of 1

Re: BBS software for the PDP 11

2017-05-19 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On 18 May 2017 at 17:16, allison via cctalk wrote: > All a DOS BBS was was a user interface that provided security by requiring > user/password > and limiting the commands usable. The easy was to do that was a version of > the CMD module > rewritten to not have things like RMDIR and DEL. I was

Re: BBS software for the PDP 11

2017-05-19 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On 18 May 2017 at 22:06, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > The plate on the back of my 11/93 says 345 Watts. That's about a fifth what > your > wifes hair dryer draws. Or slightly more than 3 100 watt light bulbs Jesus wept. Are you certain that this alleged "hair dryer" is not in fact a h

Re: BBS software for the PDP 11

2017-05-19 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On 19 May 2017 at 00:22, Ed via cctalk wrote: > we ran ours first on a hp-2000 then migrated to a hp-3000 > > final version had 100 boards on it email , multi user chat, poll and > voting and much more. > yep it kicked ass! You'd think if you'd been online that long, you'd have worked out

Re: BBS software for the PDP 11

2017-05-19 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On 19 May 2017 at 13:36, Bill Gunshannon wrote: > Nope. Take a trip to Amazon and look at just how much power this stuff > actually consumes. And, if you go back to the days when we started > running this stuff in our homes, compare the draw of a QBUS PDP-11 to > a TV with a picture tube, standar

Re: BBS software for the PDP 11

2017-05-20 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On 19 May 2017 at 21:39, jim stephens via cctalk wrote: > I have news for you. (maybe) From 1976 until it petered out, the phone time > cost a lot too. $200 or more a month at times. What does "phone time" mean in this context? I mean, POTS billing, for me, was always time-based, but the amount

Re: Run/Stop switch from a Soviet S/370 clone

2017-05-24 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On 24 May 2017 at 10:25, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: > I think so. It would at least be nice to see a picture. > > If it's smallish I might even pay postage for it :D Working on it. My flatmate's mother tidied it away and we thought it had been thrown out, but I have rediscovered it in its hiding plac

Re: Run/Stop switch from a Soviet S/370 clone

2017-05-24 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On 24 May 2017 at 21:45, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: > Cool, how might it have ended up in the UK (I assume it is there) Er, no. It, like me, is in Brno in the Czech Republic. -- Liam Proven • Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • Google Mail/Talk/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com T

Re: Atari ST SCSI hard drive question

2017-05-25 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On 25 May 2017 at 02:12, Win Heagy via cctech wrote: > The adapter on top is a male to female adapter. Not sure what that was > for. The SCSI terminator is plugged in the back below the DMA/SCSI adapter. Just a standard Amphenol terminator, I think. -- Liam Proven • Profile: https://about.me

Re: SIMH on low overhead platform

2020-08-17 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 17 Aug 2020 at 09:43, Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote: > > Has SIMH been ported to a low overhead (instant-on) platform? > > I ask the question because the startup time of Linux is distracting when > powering on a PiDP-11/70 or similar clone systems based on SIMH. Not that I know of. I have

Buying and running an IBM PC-XT in 2020

2020-08-26 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
I found this blog post quite interesting. I've left what I hope is an informative, helpful comment. I wonder if anyone else here would have more to add? https://www.forsure.dev/-/2020/05/19/640-kilobytes-of-ram-and-why-i-bought-an-ibm-5160/ -- Liam Proven – Profile: https://about.me/liamproven E

Re: Buying and running an IBM PC-XT in 2020

2020-08-26 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 at 15:10, Bill Degnan wrote: > > I remember when the IBM XT was too new for a VCF exhibit, back when Sellam > ran shows. I can believe that. I gutted 2 original working PC-ATs in about 1996 for cases for Pentium-class machines. I deeply regret it now but it was 25y ago -- th

Re: Looking for an IDE simulator

2020-08-28 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 28 Aug 2020 at 18:07, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > > After having a run of almost half a dozen IDE hard drive failures recently in > a short period of time (on my older desktops which use them, I've decided that > I should see if there's an IDE emulator (using SD cards) SD (and the re

Re: Sun SPARCstation LX boot from CDROM?

2020-09-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 at 15:33, Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote: > About 70% of the PCB had solder joints that were nice and shiny like brand > new. The remaining section near the front of the drive was quite badly > corroded and it also looked like there was some liquid spilled over that > section of t

Re: IBM 3270 compatible terminal connected to Hercules IBM mainframe emulator.

2020-09-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 at 08:24, Mattis Lind via cctalk wrote: > > I have been working on a project for some time to connect a IBM3270 > compatible Alfaskop terminal with its IBM 3274 compatible cluster > controller to the Hercules mainframe emulator. > > Yesterday I eventually succeeded. I was able

Re: Basement Haul

2020-09-03 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 3 Sep 2020 at 15:09, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > > Unfortunately access to the pictures is restricted, silly of them. Agreed but this is normal for VCFED. I do have an account but I've not used it in years -- the forums are a bit too US-centric for me, and I hate web fora in general.

Re: Brittle plastic

2020-09-04 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 at 11:02, Stefan Skoglund via cctalk wrote: > Textilmuseet (textiles and clothes museum in Borås, Sweden) have a > number of items which was haute couture in the 70s and 80s. Some of > them was done in a plastic which today is basically an awful mess... > > And so they are basi

Re: NetWare 5.1 / BorderManager 3.5

2020-09-08 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 8 Sep 2020 at 08:18, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > > Does anyone have any idea where I can get install media at various > support pack levels and / or support pack install files for NetWare 5.1 > and / or BorderManager 3.5? Something like this any help? https://winworldpc.com/product/

Re: AW: CGA card (Mitsubishi Electric) with 192K RAM?

2020-09-08 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 8 Sep 2020 at 06:47, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > 1) If the drive is larger than 32MB, then boot with DOs 3.31 or newer. > Although even with the older ones, you can still do quite a bit. 3.31 is > the first where DOS supports a partition larger than 32MB > MS-DOS 5.00 is first where

Re: NetWare 5.1 / BorderManager 3.5

2020-09-09 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 9 Sep 2020 at 06:34, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > > On 9/8/20 7:18 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > > I haven't tested that specific ISO. > > The particular ISO that you linked to is Novell NetWare 5.1 (Support > Pack 0). So it needs support packs installed on it. But that's good

Re: AW: CGA card (Mitsubishi Electric) with 192K RAM?

2020-09-09 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 9 Sep 2020 at 18:56, Jules Richardson via cctalk wrote: > > On 9/8/20 6:04 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > Date and time of Command.com and any other DOS files will identify the > > version number. Only after DOS 5 or so, I fear. > I've got 11/26/85 on command.com. > > > DIR /A or

Re: [TUHS] Fwd: Choice of Unix for 11/03 and 11/23+ Systems

2020-09-30 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 23:35, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > > Good basic idea (using a different system to build on), but there's a > better/easier approach (in the same basic vein): bring up V6, and mount the RK > pack with Mini-Unix on it (it's a V6 file system, so is mountable); V6 is rock >

Re: [TUHS] Fwd: Choice of Unix for 11/03 and 11/23+ Systems

2020-10-02 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 1 Oct 2020 at 00:58, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > > No, it looks like it uses a different fie-system layout. > > Besides; there's not much point: the big adantage of using V6 is that one can > use the V6 tool-chain to prepare Mini-Unix binaries; XV6 wouldn't allow > that. If all one wa

Re: [TUHS] Fwd: Choice of Unix for 11/03 and 11/23+ Systems

2020-10-02 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 2 Oct 2020 at 19:20, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > > (For those are are not familiar with Mini-Unix and LSX, they are both V6 Unix > variants lobotomized to run on PDP-11's without memory management: Aha! Like this? https://hackaday.com/2018/06/03/its-unix-on-a-microcontroller/ http:/

Re: Concurrent Controls Multiuser DOS

2020-10-03 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sat, 3 Oct 2020 at 18:14, Jonathan Haddox via cctalk wrote: > > I'm researching Multiuser DOS out of my own interest. A version made by > Concurrent Controls specifically. However, I have been unable to find > documentation on it to satisfy my curiosity on how it works and how it is > conf

Re: college study

2020-10-13 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 13 Oct 2020 at 21:17, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > > It depends. In sciences, people understand that it's a lot of work. In what > Robert Heinlein called the "fuzzy subjects", you can often be a party animal > who does very little real work and get a degree anyway. If so, it doesn'

Re: Maynard MaynStream

2020-10-13 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 13 Oct 2020 at 21:51, Van Snyder via cctalk wrote: > > I have a Maynard MaynStream tape backup unit from the 1980's. > > It uses audio-format cassettes with 1/4" tape, but it's a different > tape composition, and the cassette has a notch in it to tell the device > it's not just plain audio

Re: college study

2020-10-13 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 14 Oct 2020 at 00:19, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > Do you want the degree? > Or do you want to LEARN? Fair! Both. > Take a course in your limited "spare time". > Then another. > and another > > I did grad school (UC Berkeley) while teaching full time plus running a > business, and o

Re: Maynard MaynStream

2020-10-14 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 14 Oct 2020 at 01:08, Van Snyder wrote: > I'll send it for a PDF of a shipping label for a 20" x 10" x 10" 10lb box, > your choice of carrier. That is a very kind offer and I appreciate your generosity, but I think perhaps you mistake what I was trying to say. It's too old to be of dir

Re: cctalk Digest, Vol 73, Issue 13

2020-10-15 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 14 Oct 2020 at 22:28, Adam Thornton via cctalk wrote: > > I agree that whether a student learns has much more to do with the student > than what in particular they're studying. > > I quit my undergraduate physics degree when I had a moment of clarity that > even if I managed to squeak thro

Re: AOL CD and other old PC software...

2020-10-15 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 15 Oct 2020 at 22:48, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > > On 10/15/20 2:32 PM, Kevin Lee wrote: > > Link for the prodigy work please? Seems interesting.. > > Sorry, I don't have a link per say. That's _per se_, BTW. Latin. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/per_se -- Liam Proven – Profile: h

Re: Floppy disk: one drive per face

2020-11-09 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 9 Nov 2020 at 21:41, ben via cctalk wrote: > > Is the Author find able? Do he still have 8" floppies? Dude. Really. Pay attention. The author has been posting in this thread. -- Liam Proven – Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk – gMail/gTalk/gHangouts: lpro...

Re: Way off topic: posting to the list using default Samsung Android Mail Client

2020-11-09 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 10 Nov 2020 at 00:44, Ali via cctalk wrote: > Any > ideas/suggestions? TIA! https://k9mail.app/ https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fsck.k9&hl=en&gl=US -- Liam Proven – Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk – gMail/gTalk/gHangouts: lpro...@gmail.c

Re: Way off topic: posting to the list using default Samsung Android Mail Client

2020-11-10 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 10 Nov 2020 at 11:31, Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk wrote: > > That is like asking how do you fix Windows/10 MAIL app. It’s the default, it > sends and receives mail. If you want something that works better and gives > you control then you switch to a supported app. > There is also Outlook

Re: Way off topic: posting to the list using default Samsung Android Mail Client

2020-11-11 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 10 Nov 2020 at 19:27, Angel M Alganza via cctalk wrote: > Most of them, yes. Then there is K-9 mail for Android, > which almost makes me to not miss Mutt, when using the phone. Which is what I proposed in the first reply, complete with links. -- Liam Proven – Profile: https://about.me

Re: The best hard drives??

2020-11-17 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 at 10:26, Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote: > Five MyBooks bought 18 months ago had debranded He8 disks in there: very nice. > The three Elements a few months back have (non-SMR) WD Reds in them, which is > OK. Three more are supposedly turning up tomorrow. Oh blast, I wish I h

Re: The best hard drives??

2020-11-17 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 at 15:36, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > > Most "Merikens" just let the bank do the conversion when they buy > from overseas. Argh! I was not posting to the list that I thought I was. I apologise for using that nickname. :-( -- Liam Proven – Profile: https://about.me/li

Re: The best hard drives??

2020-11-18 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 02:53, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > Most of us "merkens" haven't truly mastered one language. I was very surprised to discover a couple of years ago that many in the USA pronounce "squirrel" as "skwerl". My surprise was subsequently pushed to its limits when I discovere

Re: The best hard drives??

2020-11-18 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 04:21, Tapley, Mark B. via cctalk wrote: > > On Nov 17, 2020, at 7:03 PM, Liam Proven via cctalk > mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote: > > Argh! I was not posting to the list that I thought I was. I apologise > for using that nickname. :-( >

Re: The best hard drives??

2020-11-18 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 17:15, Diane Bruce wrote: > > My expat FIL was from Lancs. Good part is I learned how to make a decent pot > of tea. The bad is, I couldn't understand him half the time. Being from Lancashire myself, I can't see the problem, but the rest of the UK regards us as impenetrable

Re: Regional accents and dialects (Was: The best hard drives??

2020-11-19 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 21:20, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > And the machines that Calcomp made (570, etc.) were called "plodders" I am well-used to that one; I think all Brits are, from TV and cinema. (Aside: it is amusing to me, at least, that some British actors succeeded in Hollywood or TV

Re: Regional accents and dialects (Was: The best hard drives??

2020-11-19 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 19 Nov 2020 at 17:58, Ethan Dicks wrote: > > As an American, I think Hugh Laurie and Bob Hoskins have quite > acceptable American accents AIUI, most people do. I think it's just to their countrymen that they sound artificial. > as does Jamie Bamber (Lee "Apollo" Adama > in Battlestar Gal

Re: evil thing to ask but I need keystroke logger

2020-11-20 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 20 Nov 2020 at 13:19, Doug Jackson via cctalk wrote: > > Have you considered asking them what they are doing? As my only offspring is only 1y old, [a] I'm not too worried and [b] it would elicit no coherent response. However I've been doing my research and I am given to believe that this

Re: NEC NEAX IVS2 PBX with NEAXMAIL AD-8 - hard drive clone issues

2020-11-27 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 27 Nov 2020 at 01:32, keith--- via cctalk wrote: > I have tried to copy it to an industrial CF > card but no luck. I have used Rufus, Active Disk Image, and Macrium > Reflect. First question: how did you try to copy it? You've not given us anywhere near enough info to try to troubles

Re: NEC NEAX IVS2 PBX with NEAXMAIL AD-8 - hard drive clone, issues

2020-11-29 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sat, 28 Nov 2020 at 23:33, keith--- via cctalk wrote: > > Hi Liam, > > As stated in my OP, I was using Windows 10 and USB adapters. *Goes back and re-reads* Ah, OK. I did not follow before. I think Windows is a really poor choice for this. Worse, it might have tried to mount the filesystem R

Re: Atari ST diskettes

2020-12-02 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 at 22:36, Van Snyder via cctalk wrote: > > I found a box of 45 Atari ST diskettes in my basement, from my 1980's > 520 ST (or maybe my brother's 1040 ST). > > I don't have a floppy drive, so I can't tell whether they're readable. > > Some are originals, for example for 1St Word,

Anyone want some LMI Lisp Machine tapes?

2020-12-02 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
https://www.ebay.de/itm/254795423667 €1 « LISP MACHINE INC 1/2" Reel Tapes Anyone who opens this auction will know what this is - and how unique these tapes are. The lot is consisting of 13 tapes, which are labeled as follows: LMI FORTRAN 77 #1352- LMI Release 2.0 two tapes LMI Boot / SDU

Re: Atari ST diskettes

2020-12-07 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 at 12:28, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote: > > Well, I guess for some anything that does not require you to toggle in > the boot loader or doesn't have a teletype console terminal is surely too > modern to even consider. :-D One of the things I enjoy about this group is that some of

Perkins-Elmer 3600 and PETOS

2020-12-13 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
Does anyone know anything much about this early desktop computer and its OS? Example: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Perkin-Elmer-3600-PETOS-Like-Microsoft-BASIC-Computer-6800-CPU-Works-/303540134722 Although it predated the PC, MS supplied the BASIC and apparently the CLI resembles early DOS. I ask

Re: misc stuff - free

2020-12-14 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 14 Dec 2020 at 22:52, Don Stalkowski via cctalk wrote: > > I'm listing this stuff just in case someone is desperate for > any of it. Would you like me to post these lists on the Facebook vintage-computer collectors' groups for you, Don? I can suitably anonymise your email, if you prefer,

Re: misc stuff - free

2020-12-15 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 at 10:35, Johan Helsingius via cctalk wrote: > > Seems to be the usual FB problem - too many similar groups. :) How do you mean? Has it already appeared in some I'm not in? It's nothing new. 15y ago or something, there were umpteen Communities on Livejournal for any conceivab

Re: misc stuff - free

2020-12-16 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 at 20:09, Johan Helsingius via cctalk wrote: > > This is one of the reasons why I miss good old USENET - with a public list > of groups, and a clear hierarchy. I was thinking exactly the same thing. -- Liam Proven – Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.

Re: misc stuff - free

2020-12-16 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 at 01:02, Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote: > > USENET is still around. But much like the rest of the infinite groups, it's > not where everybody is. Sigh. True. In fact a colleague of mine at $DAYJOB is trying to resurrect the Big 8 committee and get some active management occ

Re: WTB: CompuPro / Godbout RAM 17

2020-12-16 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 at 21:31, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > > Other than "Buy It Now" I have pretty much given up on > ebay. Never had luck selling anything and very seldom > had any luck winning a bid. Got better ways to waste > my time. If you _really_ want something that is _not_ BIN,

Re: misc stuff - free

2020-12-16 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 at 17:12, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: > > What's Livejournal? :-o It was one of the first free blogging sites, before WordPress or Blogger or the like. It has a number of forks, one of which is extant and alive: Dreamwidth. It's the site that memcached was written for. I

Re: misc stuff - free

2020-12-16 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 at 18:20, geneb wrote: > > > That would be glorious. :) Looks like it's happened. https://www.big-8.org/wiki/Board_members https://events.opensuse.org/conferences/oSLO/program/proposals/3028 -- Liam Proven – Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk – g

Re: misc stuff - free

2020-12-16 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 at 17:46, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > Do it yourself HEART surgery??!!?? Yikes! As close as I've heard of: (1 b&w pic but not for the squeamish) https://web.archive.org/web/20121107053510/http://www.doctorross.co.za/antarctica/self-operation-tracking-down-a-good-story

Re: misc stuff - free

2020-12-16 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 at 21:23, geneb wrote: > > Hopefully Cancel Moose can return too. :) http://cm.org/ ...? -- Liam Proven – Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk – gMail/gTalk/gHangouts: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/LinkedIn/Flickr: lproven – Skype: liamproven U

Re: Emails going to spam folder in gmail

2020-12-28 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 28 Dec 2020 at 23:12, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: > > Hi, > I have noticed the same email addresses' messages routinely end up in the > spam folder of gmail. I have 2 nested folders (labels/tags/whatever) in Gmail: classiccmp/talk and classiccmp/tech. In my rule which filters messages i

Re: Emails going to spam folder in gmail

2020-12-29 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 28 Dec 2020 at 23:50, Bill Degnan wrote: > > Liam, > As I said I can set up a filter but that does not really solve the problem it > compensates for it in the cctalk world only. OK, that's fair. If I stuck a finger in the air and guesstimated, I'd say about 95% of my email is filtered, a

Re: Emails going to spam folder in gmail

2020-12-29 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 at 00:29, Nemo Nusquam via cctalk wrote: > > Thank you both for your information but I am still mystified as to why > Gmail marks Google alerts (from Google!) as spam. That is particularly amusing/irritating, yes. I have 3 or 4 connected accounts -- AOL, Hotmail, Yahoo, etc.

Rod Coleman's personal history of founding, building & running SAGE

2021-01-02 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
This may be old news -- it was new to me, though. https://suddendisruption.blogspot.com/search/label/Booting%20Sage%20Computer I'm not really familiar with SAGE machines. They were not as well-known in the UK, I think, being upmarket from the Apple ][ and IBM PC, both of which were eye-wateringly

Re: Rod Coleman's personal history of founding, building & running SAGE

2021-01-03 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 at 03:53, Boris Gimbarzevsky wrote: > > Ran into 68000 processor for > first time in 1986 when my father bought a 512 K > Mac and couldn't believe performance of this CPU It is odd. I had read of it, of course, but for me the revelation was getting an Acorn Archimedes in 1989,

Re: APE - ALTAIR peripheripheral emulator

2021-01-04 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 at 03:07, jwest--- via cctalk wrote: > > (not to be confused with the other APE, for Atari)? There's also an Apricot emulator by that name: https://ai.ansible.uk/ape.html from https://ai.ansible.uk/freebies.html Plan 9 has an APE too... http://doc.cat-v.org/plan_9/4th_editi

Re: Rod Coleman's personal history of founding, building & running SAGE

2021-01-04 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 at 15:35, emanuel stiebler wrote: > > I guess we have to be careful, comparing machines & CPUs. > 68000 came out as a CPU in 1980/1981 (available on the market (?)) > > You're comparing it to a ARM2 machine of 1987, where Motorola had the > newer 68020, and 68030 by than ... Th

Re: Rod Coleman's personal history of founding, building & running SAGE

2021-01-04 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 at 17:42, Bill Degnan wrote: > > Agreed. > > A fully provisioned IBM PC / XT in 1981-4 was pretty expensive too, that's > why 8-bit machines continued to sell well into the later 80's. 16-bit was > overkill for most home needs. Apple would not have survived the 80's without

Re: APL\360

2021-01-15 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 15 Jan 2021 at 17:21, Nemo Nusquam via cctalk wrote: > > In 1999, a fellow student in a UML course worked for a large information > company (Reuters, I think?) and told me that they had embarked on an > expensive s/w conversion project. Their back-end systems were > implemented in APL and

Re: APL\360

2021-01-15 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 15 Jan 2021 at 17:44, Gavin Scott via cctalk wrote: > > APL is still a going concern in a few places Oh, definitely. I subscribed to the British APL Association's newsletter from an advert in UK magazine PCW in the 1980s and continued to get its publication, _Vector_, for over 20Y. https

Re: APL\360

2021-01-15 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 15 Jan 2021 at 17:50, Liam Proven wrote: > So I resubbed online and now I get it again. providing that warm > comforting sensation of intellects vast and cool, as immeasurably > superior to my own as mine is to that of the transient creatures that > swarm and multiply in a drop of water.

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