On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 at 07:27, Stan Sieler via cctalk
wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Back in 2017, I posted something about seeing a possible first-ever
> reference to the idea of 3-D printing in a 1951 issue of Galaxy Science
> Fiction magazine.
>
> I stumbled over an even earlier one tonight...
>
> The Septe
On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 at 11:10, ED SHARPE via cctalk
wrote:
>
> Dave -- I suppose the solve is to write it out long hand as in
> One Dollar One Cent One Pound...
Dear hypothetical deities, no. That causes problems with translation,
people not knowing the name of another country's c
On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 at 10:42, Dave Wade via cctalk
wrote:
>
> I wrote this as one dollar => $1.00
Dollar symbol, one
> This as one pound => $1
Dollar symbol, 1
> And this as one euro => €1
Euro symbol, one
> Lastly one cent => ¢1
Cent symbol, one
Fascinating.
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On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 at 19:04, ED SHARPE via cctalk
wrote:
> I do not know, anyone using a text only mail reader anymore!
Several of my colleagues at a Prominent German Linux Distributor use
Mutt/Neomutt. I don't, I am on Thunderbird and rather like it.
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On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 at 02:15, Tomasz Rola via cctalk
wrote:
>
> I would say that was cool.
Me too! :-)
> I guess so, too. Connecting Amiga to plasma was probably the least
> hassle of all alternatives. PC would need something special (either
> card or converter?), and a hard drive, and a big box
On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 at 21:59, Bill Degnan wrote:
>
> Liam,
> I rescued a Linotype and gave it to Bob Roswell for his museum in Hunt
> Valley, MD USA...should you ever be in the Washington/Baltimore area.
> Syssrc.com is the URL and the museum is housed within their consulting and
> training fa
On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 at 21:29, Fred Cisin wrote:
>
> Q: Is that link adequate to unambiguously identify any specific location
> within any sub-atomic particle in the universe? (such as far more
> detail than is required for the PHYSICAL LOCATION of the start of the file??)
It's simple. All we hav
https://archive.org/details/FarewellEtaoinShrdlu
28min documentary on the last ever edition of the NY Times to be
printed using hot metal -- before they switched to what are now a
quite choice assortment of late-'70s minicomputers. I think I spotted
a PDP, a Data General and some IBM device, but
On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 at 16:51, Peter Van Peborgh via cctech
wrote:
>
> Guys,
>
> I have acquired this board and have trouble assigning it to a particular
> computer manufacturer and type:
>
> https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/byRPH3wCR2aqxGX9U8BZfFTT_XtF7QCKSyVXoNmGIk
> UheiJ5BWqxYaCWdEshppLGYkOqUD
On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 at 15:25, Ethan O'Toole via cctalk
wrote:
>
> > Actually, Al was hired as an Apple Fellow in 1985. His first project was
> > "Trojan" a 68000 mac on an ISA card that mixed EGA and square pixel Mac
> > video. I was the Mac-side programmer on the project. Marketing killed it
> >
On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 at 20:31, ben via cctalk wrote:
>
> And soon another version of something so marketing has new something
> to make you buy a new version hardware and software.The problem was with
> Amiga it was designed as 'game box' rather than a computer. (Nowdays you
> phone is PC and the P
On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 at 19:51, Tomasz Rola via cctalk
wrote:
>
> From time to time I behave like a normal human and, for example, zip
> channels on my cable tv. Few years ago, while stopping at their "see
> what we have on offer to you, prospective viewer" kind of channel, it
> cracked open and I h
On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 at 14:45, David Brownlee wrote:
>
> The big issue with the Hydra was its lack of cache coherency between
> processors, which made conventional SMP somewhat... challenging. You
> could do very cool multiprocessor stuff with it, just not in a
> conventional SMP capable OS (I reme
On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 at 13:41, Jules Richardson via cctalk
wrote:
>
> The 4000T that I have was built in May of '96, and it amazes me that there
> was any kind of market for it in light of how widespread PCs on the desktop
> had become by that time.
Agreed.
VideoToasters might have been the main
On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 at 09:52, Ethan Dicks via cctalk
wrote:
>
> I'd say the Amiga really lost its shine around 20 years ago, about the
> time Linux was getting serious and Windows 98 dominated the desktop.
Unfortunately, yes, I think you're right.
Ditto the Acorn RISC OS platform -- I know, rare
On Sat, 23 May 2020 at 03:52, Richard Cini via cctalk
wrote:
>
> You know, reading about this made me dig out the info I had on the Character
> Oriented Windows ("COW") library. I was reading some of the docs and it
> occurred to me that it operated much like Windows (probably Windows 1), but
>
On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 at 01:57, Fred Cisin via cctalk
wrote:
>
> A Tesla is a rather expensive electric car, a product of Elon Musk.
> STARTING (minimal stripped down) at 40,000 pounds, and some models over
> 80,000 pounds.
>
> Sell one of THOSE, and you can buy a car AND a lot of great computer
> st
On Fri, 29 May 2020 at 19:56, Tony Duell wrote:
>
> On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 7:24 PM Liam Proven via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> There were also some pretty high-spec British microcomputers, but they
> tended to flop owing to the price. Things like the HH Tiger (did it
> ev
On Fri, 29 May 2020 at 18:17, Toby Thain via cctalk
wrote:
> >
> > And I have had earnest youngsters on Twitter and elsewhere very
> > seriously tell me that _no_ language could even theoretically be
> > immune to the problems of C, because _all_ languages are implemented
> > in C at the lowest le
https://ajk.me/building-an-ibm-3270-terminal-controller
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On Wed, 27 May 2020 at 21:40, John Ames wrote:
> Agreed. While I'm much more favorably disposed towards C than you are,
> the increasing homogeneity of almost all modern languages is
> discouraging and, I think, detrimental to the field as a whole. Forth
> and Smalltalk alike were eye-openers whe
On Tue, 26 May 2020 at 21:47, Fred Cisin via cctalk
wrote:
>
> On Tue, 26 May 2020, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
> >>> I do not know what a "sheering section" means.
> >> Typo: "cheering". :-)
> >
> > Aha! I still didn't know, but
On Thu, 28 May 2020 at 21:11, geneb wrote:
>
> CP/M was huge in the US, especially among the S-100 system users. It was
> a pretty narrow window though - from probably 1978-1982. Kaypro had a
> good portion of the market as well, but like pretty much all the other
> manufacturers of CP/M machine
On Thu, 28 May 2020 at 06:01, ben via cctalk wrote:
> What keyboard are you using to get the fancy arrows?
Unmodified IBM Model M from 1991 in my case.
⇒ is compose, equals, greater-than
Snag is, I can't get one going the other way... I get
less-than-or-equal-to etc: ≤ ≥
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On Tue, 26 May 2020 at 21:52, Jim Brain via cctalk
wrote:
>
> Well, *I've* heard of them, but I enjoy knowing about such things. Most
> in the US do not.
*Nod* Shame but it's fair enough.
I think there is at the least an article (and possibly an entire
university course module) comparing Europe
On Tue, 26 May 2020 at 21:35, Fred Cisin via cctalk
wrote:
>
> Well, there were some products whose role was to SHEAR THE SHEEP.
> The Apple3 belonged in a shearing section. Maybe even the Lisa, although
> that wasn't its intended role.
(?)
> When I taught C, we gave the course a prerequisite o
On Tue, 26 May 2020 at 19:22, Chris Elmquist via cctalk
wrote:
>
> A friend has unearthed approximately (5) of these IBM keyboards in his
> dad's shed in MN. These are not PC keyboards but instead likely 3178
> terminal keyboards. They probably came out of 3M a very long time ago.
>
> https://dr
On Tue, 26 May 2020 at 18:50, Jim Brain via cctalk
wrote:
>
> TO help save a few bits in everyone's mailbox, I will link to some docs:
>
> http://forum.6502.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1514
Whoah. OK, TMI for this dilettante.
I think the only CBM kit that went through my home was a C16 I fixed
for
On Tue, 26 May 2020 at 18:25, Tony Duell wrote:
>
> Err, the Acorn Atom could do colour at least in some graphics modes.
> It used the 6847 video chip that turned up in the Tandy Color
> Computer/Dragon. Maybe the base machine was monochrome video only, but
> there was a PAL encoder board availabl
On Tue, 26 May 2020 at 17:49, Adrian Graham via cctalk
wrote:
> > On 26 May 2020, at 12:57, Liam Proven via cctalk
> > wrote:
> >
> > & the Isle of Man. :-)
>
> Suddenly your comments about Trash-80s and MSX machines makes perfect sense
> too :)
Fair enoug
On Mon, 25 May 2020 at 20:53, Jim Brain via cctalk
wrote:
> Too late to fix silicon, the 6522 issue surfaced.
What 6522 issue?
This is way more depth about a machine I never owned than I personally
ever knew, I have to admit...
> Oh, and re-use all the VIC peripherals to save NRE costs!
I h
On Mon, 25 May 2020 at 23:17, Adrian Graham via cctalk
wrote:
>
>
> Wait, PETs didn’t have graphics and Tic Tac Toe didn’t exist? Where did you
> LIVE?
The _name_ was new to me.
& the Isle of Man. :-)
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On Mon, 25 May 2020 at 20:51, Adrian Graham via cctalk
wrote:
> Quite a few Australians might not share your view that Dick Smith was
> ‘niche’, Europeans may, largely because they’ll have never heard of him in
> Europe. For proper niche see the RCA-1802 powered COMX-35.
I do remember the COMX
On Mon, 25 May 2020 at 20:49, Fred Cisin via cctalk
wrote:
>
> I apologise for offending you. Sloppiness and insnesitivity on my part,
> not a deliberate attempt.
Just saddened, Fred, not offended.
I never had a ZX81, but the door-wedge joke is as old as the machine.
I think its historical posi
On Mon, 25 May 2020 at 20:42, Bill Degnan via cctalk
wrote:
>
> I find Gmail
> sends a lot of group posts and replies straight to the spam folder.
If you filter ClassicCmp.org replies into a folder, then there is a
checkbox in the "filter messages like these" screen that says "never
mark as spam
On Mon, 25 May 2020 at 20:22, Guy Sotomayor wrote:
>
> I hadn't thought about IBMCACHE.SYS in *years*. I wrote it in its
> entirety (there's even a patent that covers some of its operation). I
> was in an AdTech (Advanced Technology) group at the time and was
> looking at how to make disk operati
On Mon, 25 May 2020 at 05:30, Fred Cisin via cctalk
wrote:
>
> I played briefly with Xenix on an XT (or MAYBE an AT) on a 15MB? drive
> partition. MS-DOS was a better match for that hardware.
Never tried Xenix on an XT, but it was the 2nd OS on my PC-AT in my
first ever job. That machine was v
On Sun, 24 May 2020 at 05:14, Jim Brain via cctalk
wrote:
> The serial interface would have been fast enough, if the MOS folks had
> talked to the design team about the bug and squashed it early. But, they
> did not, and on the VIC-20, which did not expect to move many drives, no
> one cared. Wh
On Sun, 24 May 2020 at 03:42, Richard Cini wrote:
>
> Thanks Liam. Oberon is pretty interesting. I may download that just to see it
> in action. I’ve used a ton of 3Com cards so the setup program is pretty
> familiar. I haven’t used DESQview, well, since I had it installed on my
> Compaq DeskPr
On Sat, 23 May 2020 at 22:24, Fred Cisin via cctalk
wrote:
>
> On Sat, 23 May 2020, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
> > It is pretty much the *same* BASIC in the PET, VIC-20 and C64. It got
> > trivial adjustments for the hardware, but bear in mind: the PET had no
> > graphi
On Sat, 23 May 2020 at 03:52, Richard Cini via cctalk
wrote:
>
> You know, reading about this made me dig out the info I had on the Character
> Oriented Windows ("COW") library. I was reading some of the docs and it
> occurred to me that it operated much like Windows (probably Windows 1), but
>
On Fri, 22 May 2020 at 21:56, Fred Cisin via cctalk
wrote:
>
> Microsoft did a BASIC for the Commodore PET. I wasn't aware that they did
> the C64.
It is pretty much the *same* BASIC in the PET, VIC-20 and C64. It got
trivial adjustments for the hardware, but bear in mind: the PET had no
graphic
On Fri, 22 May 2020 at 21:34, ben via cctalk wrote:
> >
> Confused here. Pirates or Micosoft history?
> Runs.
Yes.
He meant that PoSV is a fictionalised, sanitised, MS-approved account
and not very reliable.
As is MS' own history. Written by the winners, etc.
However, I'd say PoSV will give th
On Fri, 22 May 2020 at 19:50, Al Kossow via cctalk
wrote:
>
> > Recently found a movie Pirates of Silicon Valley which had some of early
> > Microsoft history
>
> It is a work of fiction, and should be taken as such.
You're right, but it contains the broad strokes of the story, more or
less accu
On Fri, 22 May 2020 at 18:21, Fred Cisin via cctalk
wrote:
>
> Similarly, I have a few 3.25" drives. NO, not 3.5"; not 3.0". 3.25" was
> the entry in the "shirt pocket disk" wars that Dysan bet the company on.
> (remember their disks?)Another discussion.
I remember the Zenith Minisport, a D
On Fri, 22 May 2020 at 05:26, Rico Pajarola via cctalk
wrote:
> >
> The whole concept of "if the plug fits, it will at least not blow up" is
> kind of a late invention.
Ha!
I have an old external 3.5" IDE disk enclosure. It's a good enclosure,
too -- Firewire 800 _and_ USB 2 _and_ eSATA. It has
On Tue, 12 May 2020 at 03:53, Eric Moore via cctalk
wrote:
>
> https://youtu.be/L743MjJthHY
>
> I recently got my SEL 810A working. I hope you guys enjoy the video :).
Very nifty indeed. Shared with the VCC on FB so you may see a few more
viewers from there! :-)
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On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 at 23:05, Kyle Owen via cctalk
wrote:
>
> I also wrote a version for the PDP-8; I was sure someone else had beat me
> to it (an assembly version, that is), but I didn't find any versions online
> other than for BASIC and FOCAL—neither of which supported very many cells
> nor r
On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 at 13:55, Chris Elmquist wrote:
>
> This might be one of those jokes that if you have to explain it, it looses
> the punch ... but I’ll try,
>
> There used to also be something called a Hong Kong Whore House, similarly
> staffed with young Asian women, but they didn’t make c
On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 at 04:05, Chris Elmquist via cctalk
wrote:
>
> CDC had a memory manufacturing facility in SE Asia, staffed with mostly young
> Asian women.
> An older colleague at ETA helped set it up (he just passed away; RIP Carl).
>
> He called it the Hong Kong Core House.
There's a few m
On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 at 11:28, Jim Manley via cctalk
wrote:
>
> Speaking of COBOL and Admiral Grace Hopper, I have one of her actual
> nanoseconds, a piece of insulated solid wire about 11.2 inches long, when
> she was a Superintendent's guest lecturer. Since I was a Navy MSCS
> student, she "signe
On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 at 23:02, Paul Koning via cctalk
wrote:
>
> I'm reminded of a T-shirt company that was around when I was in college,
> named "Outer products". They had various math and physics related shirts,
> for example with Maxwell's equations (your choice of differential or integral
>
On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 at 18:00, Warner Losh wrote:
>
> Thanks! Nice talk! I wish I'd stuck around but I was kinda fried after my
> talk...
I understand. I was the same, and went to the café for a couple of beers. :-)
> Surprised you didn't mention that we had 80 column xterms due to 24x80 25x80
>
On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 at 21:26, Warner Losh wrote:
>>
> Now I'm going to have to find that talk... :) I was at FOSDEM, but too
> preoccupied with my own talk to go to other talks and run the room too full
> gauntlet.
I know. Your talk was directly before mine in the same room, and I
particularly
On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 at 17:24, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote:
>
> BTW, nice talk at FOSDEM 2020, I was there. :)
Oh wow! Thank you!
*Blushes* :-)
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On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 at 16:13, Rob Jarratt wrote:
>
> This is the listing:
> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VIntage-DEC-VS4000-memory-SIMM-50-19464-02/223624600040
That is... not very informative. :-(
I also note that the listing just says VS4000 and does not specify a model.
It could be one of 5 di
On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 at 09:08, Rob Jarratt via cctalk
wrote:
>
> I mistakenly bought some memory thinking it was for a VAXstation 4000 VLC.
> It turns out that it isn't. It physically fits a VAXstation 4000 Model 60,
> but putting it in that machine the machine fails to power up. The part
> number i
On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 at 17:46, Paul Koning via cctalk
wrote:
>
> A company may close down, but that doesn't mean it is "gone" as far as its
> property is concerned. Ownership passes to others, perhaps creditors or the
> like, or the majority shareholder. Who that is may be quite hard to find
>
On Sun, 1 Mar 2020 at 17:58, Joseph Zatarski via cctalk
wrote:
>
> I've started inventorying a lot of the stuff I'd like to pass on here:
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19vhF-o6vx9g7l-D8cvLJ5OPJzpdmU9PTTknbxY-mY58/edit?usp=sharing
I can't see these in the Google sheet, for some reason:
On Tue, 3 Mar 2020 at 07:13, Kevin Lee via cctalk wrote:
>
> Hi.
>
> I forgot to mention it’s an eye phone
> 11 PRO 256gb.
I may be missing something -- *what's* an "eye phone"? I thought you
were listing vintage kit, not smartphones?
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On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 at 03:49, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
wrote:
>
> Hoo boy. I'll throw my experience in and see if you can avoid nausea...
>
> First of all, you don't need a special controller to run most floppytape
> drives, nor do you need to give up a floppy drive to use them--they
> don't use t
On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 at 19:20, Roger Addy via cctech
wrote:
>
> I'm
> wondering if it's possible to connect it to a modern ethernet network?
Run a single piece of thin Ethernet into the back of an old 10base-T hub.
Cable the hub into a modern switch.
Job done.
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On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 16:10, Al Kossow via cctalk
wrote:
>
> https://www.cultofmac.com/685669/larry-tesler-the-apple-employee-who-invented-cut-copy-paste-dies-at-74/
>
> https://twitter.com/cdespinosa/status/1229996808052469760
Oh no. :-(
"Don't mode me in!" I saw him speak, just once...
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On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 at 23:43, Alan Perry via cctalk
wrote:
>
> PS I forgot to thank Liam for offering assistance, so thanks, Liam.
You're very welcome. Sorry I misunderstood and couldn't help.
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On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 at 00:42, jim stephens via cctalk
wrote:
> >
> Liam, he's looking for SMD, which need a Bus and Radial. One Bus can
> daisy chain from drive to drive, and us usually 60 pin. The radial RF
> cables are usually 26 pin ribbon. A separate cable from the controller
> to each driv
On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 at 19:06, Alan Perry via cctalk
wrote:
>
> I supplied part numbers. How can I be more specific?
Oddly, some of us do not have a mental look-up table of Sun part
numbers. In fact I think I can safely say that I could not identify a
single cable of any form for any machine ever
On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 at 18:46, Alan Perry via cctalk
wrote:
>
>
> Anyone here have a set of Sun external SMD cables (530-1079 and 530-1080)
> that they can loan or want to sell?
>
> I ordered from a set from MemoryX at the beginning of Jan. They haven’t
> arrived and MemoryX isn’t answering my e-
With his express permission, I'm forwarding a mail from a public list.
I am interested in Gene's comments about the design of SCSI, but I
don't know enough electronics to judge.
I thought others here might.
I have trimmed the mail a little to the relevant parts.
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On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 at 02:00, Stefan Skoglund wrote:
>
> Well in some way or another i got a copy with the book to Sweden.
>
> Ran it from 1999 to 2002 or so (got a SGI challenge S as NetBSD machine
> and a pc as a linux machine at that time in 2002 or so.)
>
> Host was a 6100 with the Apple tilt d
On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 06:25, Alan Perry via cctalk
wrote:
>
> On 1/6/20 3:53 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
> > Any screeenshot galleries or better still videos anywhere?
>
> I found this photo that I took -
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZjYMdZZrIygvsQas9b40QWW7uNxM
On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 00:22, Alan Perry via cctalk
wrote:
>
> I demoed OpenStep Solaris on top of CDE in my last exhibit at VCF PNW.
> It could be awkward trying to figure out where to look for application's
> menu. Just to make things extra ugly, I ran MAE (Macintosh Application
> Environment) at
On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 00:12, Chris Hanson wrote:
>
> Not quite! Sun was a participant in creating the OpenStep standard (the NS
> class prefix stands for “NeXT/Sun”) and *created their own implementation* of
> OpenStep for Solaris. (Just as GNUstep is an independent implementation of
> the Open
On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 23:30, Guy Sotomayor via cctalk
wrote:
>
> Yes. We first started with Mach 3.0 build MK58. We did our final
> fork at MK68. We made some *significant* changes from what CMU
> had (things like changing mach messages from IPC to RPC) and a
> whole lot of work in the area of
On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 20:58, Steven M Jones via cctalk
wrote:
>
> Just to clarify, the reference to "i810 RISC" should be the i860
> ("N-10"), their second general-purpose RISC design - versus the 960MX
> from the BiiN project with Siemens in the mid-80s as their first (?),
> which would become th
On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 19:02, Guy Sotomayor via cctalk
wrote:
>
> I had been working on the IBM Microkernel (was one of the original 6
> people onthat team). It was eventually to form the basis of OS/2 for
> PPC. The way thatthe microkernel project was structured was that most
> of the "OS" was p
On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 09:56, Jeffrey S. Worley via cctalk
wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2020-01-03 at 12:00 -0600, cctalk-requ...@classiccmp.org wrote:
> > On 1/2/2020 1:35 PM, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk wrote:
> > > > > Anyone done anything with Netware *for PowerPC*? Allegedly
> > > > > there was
> > > > >
On Thu, 26 Dec 2019 at 07:51, Nemo via cctalk wrote:
>
> Would you have the citations handy? I would be interested to read that.
I thought the same thing!
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On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 at 18:05, David Barto wrote:
>
> And claimed.
Oh! Well, that was quick. :-)
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On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 at 17:52, David Barto via cctalk
wrote:
>
> Last retry. I’ve still got them and if anyone wants them, let me know.
May I pass this message on, e.g. to one of the many LowEndMac groups?
Anonymised if you prefer.
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On Wed, 27 Nov 2019 at 18:29, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
wrote:
>
> On 11/27/19 7:13 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
>
> Okay, you're right and I'm wrong. Everyone should play games on their
> 8 bit computers because they'll grow up to be real computer scientists.
On Wed, 27 Nov 2019 at 15:47, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
wrote:
>
> No, I meant "commercially viable" computers.
[1] You didn't say that, though.
[2] If it sells enough units for someone to make a living off it, that
is the _definition_ of "commercially viable".
As such, my first link qualifies. Se
On Wed, 27 Nov 2019 at 04:02, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
wrote:
>
> Other than in very low-level MCUs, I don't see 8 bit micros making a
> comeback. And 32/64 bits seems to be the rule for MCUs today.
You might be surprised.
E.g.
https://rc2014.co.uk/ (selling strongly, I believe)
https://www.spe
On Mon, 25 Nov 2019 at 05:38, Jim Manley via cctalk
wrote:
>
> One of my special tours at the CHM is "Mistakes That Kept Getting Repeated"
That is something I would _really_ like to hear. Sadly I am on the
wrong continent for it and that's not likely to change in the
foreseeable future. Between n
On Sun, 24 Nov 2019 at 23:07, Murray McCullough via cctalk
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> The first Internet message was sent 60 yrs. ago on Nov. 21 between SRI and
> UCLA.
50, not 60.
https://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/internet-50-years/
Source: ARPA.
https://www.computer.org/csdl/magazine/an/2019/02/08726054/1
On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 at 02:46, Al Kossow via cctalk
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> Please feel free to copy the above to the mailing list - I definitely
> want to join (do you know if it is possible to join with a GMail
> account, the last I heard was I was waiting to be approved)
It absolutely is -- that's how I use
On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 at 19:24, Grant Taylor via cctalk
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> On 11/18/19 11:10 AM, Paul Koning wrote:
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> > For example, I'm not sure anyone would call VMS an open system, yet
> > clearly it's distributed (VAXcluster).
>
> What is "open" in this context? Is it open source? Is it open
> commu
On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 at 16:50, Anders Nelson via cctalk
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> Maybe buy a more modern cable and hack that instead?:
>
> https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F283062451183
That's pretty cool, actually. I have about ½ dozen Model Ms and most
of my compu
On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 at 15:31, Rob Jarratt via cctalk
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> However, I now have a pang of conscience about hacking around with a
> perfectly good cable, particularly if they are uncommon. How common are
> these cables?
I don't know for sure but I've certainly seen people looking for them.
Not
On Mon, 4 Nov 2019 at 06:59, Kevin Parker via cctalk
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>
> These voltages appear to neatly align with most PC power supplies so I
> should be able to tap into an old AT power supply of which I have quite a
> few.
The PSU apparently outputs AC, not DC, which is unusual... but a PC
PSU can d
On Wed, 30 Oct 2019 at 03:34, allison via cctalk wrote:
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> The whole story of what was going on was far more complex and interesting.
Conceded.
> Funny thing was DECnet was in 1983 the largest world wide network
> period. By then is was well over 300 nodes and climbing fast.
> And none of it
On Tue, 29 Oct 2019 at 17:32, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
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> 50 years ago, inter-computer communication was common enough that it was
> a standard option in most vendors' catalogs.
>
> Maybe you've got a digit wrong?
Tim Berners-Lee says it's the 50th anniversary of the first internet
packets.
On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 02:19, Paul Koning via cctalk
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> > ...
> Speaking of timing, that reminds me of two amazing security holes written up
> in the past few years. Nothing to do with the Spectre etc. issue.
>
> One is the recovery of speech from an encrypted VoIP channel such as Skype,
On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 at 21:09, Fred Cisin via cctalk
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> One student (who later became my best friend and buddy)
> skipped the technical details and said, "The primary design error for
> MacOS and Windoze (sic) is that they placed a lower priority on security,
> than on being able to transpar
On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 at 10:16, Marvin Johnston via cctalk
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> I'm just curious how many people have powered up their TRS-80 computers,
> and ended up with a bang and a room filled with smoke?
"They all do that, sir."
Computers older than 20y or so, that is. :-(
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On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 at 21:04, Jason T via cctalk wrote:
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> I took a lot of, uh, "inspiration" from that page :)
:-D
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On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 at 19:28, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk
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> Especially the
>
> "Notice: Undefined index: currentpage in /var/www/vcfmw.org/footer.html on
> line 34"
>
> at the bottom. I felt right at home ;)
I liked that too! Reminded me of:
http://www.coboloncogs.org/INDEX.HTM
(c)
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1993 article on building a multiprocessor 6809 box.
http://www.bradrodriguez.com/papers/6809cpu.htm
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On Fri, 26 Jul 2019 at 13:23, Jules Richardson via cctalk
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> Someone on one of the Facebook vintage groups
Oh? Which one?
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On Fri, 26 Jul 2019 at 02:40, Fritz Mueller via cctalk
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> After disassembly, I can see the keyboard assembly are marked "Cherry" and
> part number is B76-07AA. I'm not enough of a keyboard wonk to know if these
> are still-mfg'd cherry key mechanisms?
Cheery are still around. Ask them?
On Thu, 18 Jul 2019 at 14:41, Ethan O'Toole wrote:
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> > This LGR guy took 15 min to get to the point. Any point. And his
> > channel doesn't even explain what "LGR" stands for.
>
> LGR is short for Lazy Game Reviews. His channel used to be reviews of old
> MS-DOS games or something. Random dude i
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