Thanks! Great find.
Marc
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Sweet. Thanks Al!
Marc
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Subject: Re: Anyone have an HP 12661A DVS card manual, 12661-90004?
scanned, and uploaded to
http://bitsavers.org/pdf/hp/21xx/interfaces
Would the small keyboard be the same as the one on the "Munchkin" 2382A
terminal? They appear on ebay regularly.
http://www.hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?hw=421
There is one right now, but at a completely unreasonable price.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Working-Vintage-HP-2382A-terminal-computer-with-
Noel,
Have you seen this part of the video where David Boggs (designer of the first 3
Mb Ethernet card for the Alto), and Ron Crane (designer of the 10 Mb Ethernet)
are doing a show and tell in their own words? You get to see the clamps, the
drill, the transceivers, the cards, and some of the in
You need OSR2, and even then it's hard to get Win95 OSR2 to work reliably
with TCP/IP. You'll first need to add the TCP/IP client for Microsoft
Networks protocol, as it's not even installed by default (darn Microsoft!).
By default it has only NetBUI and Netware, which must have paid them
money... I
In the series "looking for drivers". I have taken to using DolchPac 65's as
my retro workhorses so I can multi-boot DOS, Win98 , WinNT, WinXP and Linux
while sticking weird old PCI and ISA interface cards in it. One of the OS
always ends up having some software for the card. It has a custom video
>From: "Robert Jarratt"
>Does anyone happen to have drivers for this card? I am not sure what OSs
>this card was supported on, so any drivers at all would be appreciated.
I have a few versions of the drivers. They are part of Windows 98SE and
Windows XP distribution though, I had the card recogniz
Danke sehr, Oliver! Is your implementation available online?
Marc
>>Marc Verdiell wrote:
>> Do you mind providing links to any good implementations of IDE on
>> ATMega you know of?
>> Marc
>Of course mine ;)
>And http://www.opend.co.za/hardware/avride/avride.htm but I never verified
>> Just going by what you write...BTW, what are you using as a reference?
> I've used ftp://ftp.seagate.com/acrobat/reference/111-1c.pdf a lot.
> Also other IDE implementations on ATMegas.
Do you mind providing links to any good implementations of IDE on ATMega you
know of?
Marc
> Which one?
>
> I have never found the config and IA software for the 10343B version
> which attaches to a 10269C General Purpose Probe Interface.
Dang. Yes. That one.
> The standalone E2423A version is the same thing as the FuturePlus FS2230.
>
> https://web.archive.org/web/20001005102542/htt
Alexandre,
I have the SCSI pre-processor too, but not the precious software that goes
with it. Do you happen to have it? I'll contact you offline.
Marc
> Alexandre Souza wrote:
> A proper HP16500C or better (series 17000) is way cheap nowadays.
> [...]I don't know if there is an IDE analyzer for
> Cindy Croxton wrote
>This week I passed up a
> large (at least 24" per side) HP server mainboard from the 70s
Large HP boards from the 70's. This sounds just about perfect. This one
would have fit the description of a HP 1000 mainboard pretty well. Medium
sized ones too. Anything HP from the 70'
Woot! I finally got my HP 7970E (yeah, a year in the making!), HP 88780, and
Overland Data OD3201 9-track tapes all working at the same time. One on
HP-IB, one on SCSI-1, and one on Parallel Port interface. Only my ever
finicky Qualstars got jealous and decided not to play ball. Here is a family
vi
Thanks Brent, I had used your very helpful site before to help me figure out
IO cards, but had missed this gem.
Marc
==
From: Brent Hilpert
On 2015-Oct-10, at 9:59 PM, Marc Verdiell wrote:
>> I had originally written it in a re-targetable cross-assemble
Brent Hilpert wore:
>I had that problem with the stuck reel hubs. Failed to take my own
advice-to-self to leave the reels unmounted and they stuck again,
>although easier to get off this time as it hadn't been many years under
pressure.
I ended up covering the rubber hub with black electrical ta
Glen,
I'm right in the middle of resuscitating an HP7970E (1600 bpi with the HP-IB
interface). The main problem I had so far was the rubber in the reel hubs
had completely fused to the tape reels that were left on the hubs. I had to
disassemble the hub locking mechanism and use lots of careful X-Ac
I know what you mean. There were two awesome CDC 609 available semi locally
recently. Carl and I fantasized to pick them up. When we looked at the weight,
clearer mind prevailed and we gave up. Not sure what happened to them.
Marc
Subject: Re: Man
I used John's routine to write and Chuck's to read an HP 1000 SIMH tape image,
and the file diff came out identical, give or take a few end characters that I
don't believe are part of the data. So you guys are essentially compatible as
expected (16 bit machine it sure is).
Marc
From: Chuck Guzi
I will never get this right, I should have said John Singleton. Jim helped
also. And Chuck. Very helpful community. Thank you all.
Marc
> On Oct 6, 2015, at 6:58 PM, Marc Verdiell wrote:
>
>> Jim Cimmeri also sent me some relevant files, thanks Jim.
> I meant Jim Stephens... Much appreciated.
> Jim Cimmeri also sent me some relevant files, thanks Jim.
I meant Jim Stephens... Much appreciated.
>I've got a bunch of files that are Overland 32xx-related, but I don't
>know if they'll be useful. I don't recall where I got them off the web,
>but I'll be happy to forward them along. Probably close to 75MB worth.
Thanks, I¹ll gladly take all of it. Email away, or if you can share on a
web folde
Anyone has the operation and service manual for the 9-track mag tape drive
Overland Data OD3201? Similar to a Qualstar, but seems
larger-faster-quieter-better. Just succeeded putting it online. This one is
unusual in its simplicity - it has both a Pertec and a Parallel Port
interface. Once I found
John,
Your program worked beautifully writing a SIMH format file on my HP 88780
tape! Thanks a million. Nothing like sending direct SCSI commands to tape
from DOS. Drivers are overrated ;-).
Marc
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2015 02:52:36 -0400
From: John Wilson
My "ST.EXE"
Thanks, this looks perfect. And indeed my tape is ID 5 (brainwaves anyone?).
Can you elaborate on the differences between E11 and SIMH? When is it the
same, when will it not be compatible?
Marc
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2015 02:52:36 -0400
From: John Wilson
My "ST.EXE" pr
Chuck,
Thanks for your STP2T02.exe SCSI tape to SIMH program. Ran like a champ
under Win98 DOS, first time. It's the only utility that did work out of the
box to read a tape from my SCSI-1 HP 88780 9-track into a SIMH file, out of
the 5 or so I tried. Before I jump to Linux, which seems to be th
Henk,
Congrats! What a buy. Gorgeous super-clean machine.
The Juki looks almost like a copy of an IBM 029, down to the angled styling
and stacker section.
Except of course for the color.
Marc
From: Henk Gooijen
Subject: Re: IBM 026 - Decision Data 8010 card punch on
I have been using the BK Precision 879B:
http://www.testequipmentdepot.com/bk-precision/lcr/879b.htm?ref=gbase&gclid=
CKj82-uIoMgCFRNrfgodYOYOvA
It's at a completely different price point ($250-ish), and much more than an
ESR meter - but it's a bargain for a full R,C,L,Z meter. Very useful to know
Oh, that blue 1970's psychedelic color! The fast line printer! The vacuum
column drive (drool)! And it is alive! Congratulations!
Marc
Wow. Thanks for sharing. What a beautiful looking machine. I hope one of us
gets it.
Marc
=
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 18:36:20 +0200
From: Mattis Lind
Not really a 026 but maybe contemporary with the 029:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Historische-EDV-Lochkartenstanzer-Ca
Todd,
Well, hopefully this community is about celebrating people that have an
interest in saving old valuable hardware. Not bullying them. Saving
substantial hardware involves a substantial personal investment in time and
money. So, Todd, well done, congratulations on your buy, and thanks for
takin
Absolutely (assuming you count your engineering time as free), not to
mention it feels rewarding to use clever engineering tricks to solve a
problem instead of money. But I want to keep my machine original and vintage
if I reasonably can. My programmer ended up very reasonably priced, and it
is rec
>From: dwight
>If I were doing it.
>First you need to find out if it needs OC output.
>There are many flash parts in surface mount that can have the higher
speeds.
>Add some 74LVC245 to give bus drive needed, also surface mount.
>All on a little PC board. There would be a lot of wasted space in th
Thanks for the answers everyone, I am writing everything down...
Marc
Jay, Mike, John,
Thanks for the helpful information. It just dawned onto me that these were
"write once" PROMs, not modern EEPROMs. Duh. So you get one shot at doing it
right...
The Data I/Os on ebay seem to be quite a bit more than $100 right now, I'll
keep looking. I guess none of the modern ebay
I was going to ask a similar question here, and I am sure it has been asked
before. I do have a HP 82901 and a HP 9121 but I am not equipped to read
ROMs, so I can't really help yet. Plus I will soon need the ability to burn
ROMs for my HP 85 and HP 1000. Not only the standard 24 pin ROMs but the
I wanted to extend my thanks to the organizers of this event, and to Jay in
particular who showed me the way around bringing up a cantankerous HP 1000 E
system in real time, and somehow never got tired of my newbee questions.
And the Chinon FR-506 5.25" drive that I picked up there for a very re
> Do we know the make/model of this drive?
It's a Chinon FR-506 (NOT an FZ-506)
>On 5.25" HD drives, pin 2 is generally a drive *input*. That is, the
>host telegraphs what's needed, not the drive.
Indeed, you have to be careful to put the right media and issue the proper
density specific format
Chuck,
I looked at the pin 2 signal and resulting drive behavior. It doesn't
properly auto-switch between densities as it should. It does switch it for
reading, but not for writing. Below is the full story.
There is one jumper that controls DD/HD switching mode.
In the auto position, I can read
Thanks Chuck. Looks like you are on to something, I'll search in this
direction. Unlikely it has anything to do with the disks themselves, which
were blank. The 500 kHz write signal present on the connector just doesn't
make it to the head, whereas the 300 kHz does. On the other handm something
alo
ex.com
> To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: 5.25 floppies that read but don't write
>
> On 08/18/2015 09:05 PM, Marc Verdiell wrote:
> >
> >
> > I have connected a 1.2M 5.25" floppy to my computer. After a bit of
> > jumper learning and setting, it'
On 2015-Aug-19, at 3:58 PM, William Donzelli wrote:
> . . .
> In fact, due to your time constraints, I would not bother with the HP,
> Tek, or Heathkit manuals at all
> . . .
Gosh, please don't do that! What a terrible piece of advice. A large portion
of the HP manuals are unavailable, and HP doe
I have connected a 1.2M 5.25" floppy to my computer. After a bit of jumper
learning and setting, it's recognized and reads my old DD and HD floppies
fine. But for the life of me I cannot write to it. Not under DOS, Win98, or
WindowsXP. Which all read fine.
But can't add a file. It goes through
Try Imagedisk for DOS (with actually somewhat of an interface). Great
software, superb manual.
http://www.classiccmp.org/dunfield/img/index.htm
Also Omnidisk for DOS (command line)
http://www.shlock.co.uk/Utils/OmniDisk/OmniDisk.htm#Downloads
And Omniflop for WinXP with a GUI
http://www.shlock.c
Thanks Al, I downloaded the assembler just in case. And to Chuck's point, it
always felt like the MSDN distribution was a poorly documented, disorganized
mess. I was not impressed.
The old Turbo C and new Watcom C are available freely for DOS 16 bit and people
say very good things of both.
Marc
Thanks Jay!
Marc
From: Jay Jaeger
The link below is to a Google Drive folder with three files that I will
leave up for a while:
awstape.c - Read a SCSI tape, output in AWS format (Linux)
awstoraw.c - Read an AWS file, output a raw byte stream
awstosimh.c - Read an A
Hey, I'll take the offer, I am interested in both.
Marc
> Jay Jaeger wrote:
> If anyone is interested, I have code for a Linux SCSI tape to
> AWSTAPE program, and a program that translates aws format to a raw
> byte stream. Not sure if I have one that translates to the SimH .tap
> format, though.
Well, Chuck, thanks a bunch, this is very useful and quite difficult code to
write from scratch. How does one compile for DOS by the way (I have to admit
I am too young to have ever tried), and get a copy of MSC 8.00C. Is the DOS
compiler buried in some part of Visual Studio? I have some old versio
Wow. I'll never complain again that it takes too long to boot Windows...
>If you're willing to run MSDOS with an appropriate ASPI driver,
>I can send you a utility that I know works []You're
>welcome to the source code.
>--Chuck
Chuck,
Could you share your DOS code with me too? I just assembled the hardware for
that: a self loading HP88780B SCSI-1 9-track Tape Driv
Anyone has the Inverse Assembly and Logic Analyzer setup files that should
go with the HP 10343B SCSI bus pre-processor? Another one that I wasn't able
to find online.
Marc
Good info David. Thanks once more.
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"J. David Bryan" said:
Subject: Re: HP 2113e Battery resistor
>I might put NiMH batteries instead
That may not be advisable, given the continuous constant-current trickle
charger in the CPU power supply. The Panasonic "Nickel Metal Hydride
Te
Thanks David. My go to place for batteries is http://www.all-battery.com/.
They are in the Valley, very cost effective, associated with Tenergy I
believe. I receive my batteries in one or two days usually. Always had very
good luck with them, and they have all possible cells in all possible grades
And I opened the pack up, and you are 100% right! It's just a plastic shell
containing 10 big C-size cells, 3.5 A.hr each, indeed from the time period
it must be NiCd! Now if I can find similar cells I will be able to
reconstruct the pack inside the same shell. It will even look like the
original.
>> And I have not found the equivalent of our "Builder Logs Thread" on the
>> Vintage Computer Forums which I just "discovered".
>Maybe Erik would consider adding a category on VCF for build logs?
That's a good suggestion. On the R2 group, the Builders Log section was
actually added after I su
Thanks a lot for the detailed answer Glen. I have looked in more detail into
my machine and its rear connectors. It's a 21MX (2112A), and it has two
battery holders at the back. The old batteries even came with it (!). On
this machine the battery connectors are just two pronged, + and -, so no
ther
I like to do build logs for my more complex and long lived restorations or
builds, so people can inspire themselves from what I do, and give advice
(and encouragement, that helps too!).
In one of my many other hobbies (hum, R2-D2 robot replica building, yes,
there is such a thing), everyone put
Ah thanks, this is what these are for, thermistors. They are supposed to
monitor the temperature somewhere I suppose? Attached to the batteries? The
power supplies? The computer won't start without these I understand? Sorry I
am a bit of a newbee with HP 1000's. Have not tried to power mine quite y
Jay,
I have gotten a M.E.M memory expansion board (two of them actually!) for my
21 MX. And many memory cards. So now all I need is the DMS firmware board. I
am interested in yours if you still have it... I tried to contact you
off-list but no success, maybe I ended up in your junk mail pile. I hav
Whooo. Very nice terminal. I want one too :-). Can't help with your problem
unfortunately.
Marc
>From: Josh Dersch
>Subject: HP 3082A ("Industrial Touch") Terminal service manual or
> other info?
>Hi all --
>The lovely HP 3082A terminal I've been using with my PDP-11/73 has started
ex
We do have two 1401s, and on a good day, they both work. No working 360s. But
even if we could have the two 1401's talk to each other, it would still take
about the age of the universe to mine a block. This is about the worst machine
for scientific calculation, as it does BCD, character by chara
I'd suggest to go for the king of the hill at the time, and get an HP 16xx
(163x, 165x, 166x, 167x) for all-in-ones or the 16500 if you like to modularize
yourself, although tis latter one is much harder to put together since you have
to get the frame, the plug ins, the software, etc...
On the
Sorry use this link instead. I bought them, they are great and new indeed:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261713737185
>From: Kyle Owen
>Yes, there does appear to be a name for them: the 163 connector.
>http://www.cs.ubc.ca/~hilpert/e/powerConn/index.html
>Big thanks to our own Brent Hilpert for the gre
I get mine from this vendor on eBay. Very reasonably priced and the one I
got were indeed like new;
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261713737185?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageNam
e=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
- Marc
>On 05/26/2015 09:27 PM, Kyle Owen wrote:
>>Yes, there does appear to be a name for them: the
>From: Mike Loewen
> Is it on this disk?
>
http://www.keysight.com/main/software.jspx?ckey=sw574&lc=eng&cc=US&nid=-5369
02556.536879990&id=sw574
No, but a generous member of this list sent me the files off line. Is this a
helpful group or what. I am all set.
Marc
Yes I was asking myself the same question, and your answers continue to help
a lot.
I think I should retrace the path of technology evolution. Start getting it
up with paper tape tests and BCS. That probably means working mostly in
assembly and getting to know the most basic level of the machine.
This has probably been asked before, but does anyone have the software
package that came with the HP-IB/RS232 HP10342 bus pre-processor for the
HP1650 series Logic Analyzer (actually I have a 1670G)? It should have a
config file and an inverse assembler file. I'm interested in the HP-IB
files. Can'
icture well.
So I might be in the hunt for the cards or alternate solutions you
mentioned.
Marc
From: "J. David Bryan"
On Tuesday, May 19, 2015 at 23:12, Marc Verdiell wrote:
> Thanks, very useful info, and the manual is indeed what I was missing.
You're welc
Thanks, very useful info, and the manual is indeed what I was missing. But
now where to find the DMS, with two cards in particular, that's not going
easy to find both that match...
>> ...the recently posted IO manual says it can support ... up to
>> 1.28M.
>From: "J. David Bryan"
>That's correc
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