[cctalk] Re: 50 pins in three rows

2023-08-12 Thread Maciej W. Rozycki via cctalk
On Sat, 12 Aug 2023, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > > They are: . > > People never give up on these things as this is not the first reference I > > have come across in the recent years about this connector being made new. > > I

[cctalk] Re: 50 pins in three rows

2023-08-12 Thread Adrian Godwin via cctalk
On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 7:12 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > I wonder if these are from a group buy not long ago, where someone got a > manufacturer to gin up a lot of them (minimum order was something like > 1,000). > > They were quite common at one point. I hacked

[cctalk] Re: 50 pins in three rows

2023-08-12 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 8/12/23 09:31, Maciej W. Rozycki via cctalk wrote: > On Fri, 11 Aug 2023, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > >> I just called them D-23, since the shell size didn't seemto have been >> named/defined. >> >> They weren't available when i got my Amiga, either. >> But, I guess that there was a period

[cctalk] Re: 50 pins in three rows

2023-08-12 Thread Maciej W. Rozycki via cctalk
On Fri, 11 Aug 2023, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > I just called them D-23, since the shell size didn't seemto have been > named/defined. > > They weren't available when i got my Amiga, either. > But, I guess that there was a period in between when they might have been > available. They are:

[cctalk] Re: 50 pins in three rows

2023-08-11 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
Or, is it correct to refer to anything between DA and DB as "DB"?? (such as "DB-23" on Amiga? Yes, I dremeled a DB25 to fit.) On Sat, 12 Aug 2023, Tony Duell via cctalk wrote: I've seen DF19 and DG23, which makes sense. Originally there were the DA to DD shell sizes. The DE9 came later and

[cctalk] Re: 50 pins in three rows

2023-08-11 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
Or, is it correct to refer to anything between DA and DB as "DB"?? (such as "DB-23" on Amiga?   Yes, I dremeled a DB25 to fit.) On Fri, 11 Aug 2023, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: Atari ST also used strange shell/pin count connectors. Calling them DB is obviously not correct--calling them

[cctalk] Re: 50 pins in three rows

2023-08-11 Thread Tony Duell via cctalk
On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 4:36 AM Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > > On 8/11/23 16:08, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > > > Or, is it correct to refer to anything between DA and DB as "DB"?? > > (such as "DB-23" on Amiga? Yes, I dremeled a DB25 to fit.) > > Atari ST also used strange shell/pin

[cctalk] Re: 50 pins in three rows

2023-08-11 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 8/11/23 16:08, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > Or, is it correct to refer to anything between DA and DB as "DB"?? > (such as "DB-23" on Amiga?   Yes, I dremeled a DB25 to fit.) Atari ST also used strange shell/pin count connectors. Calling them DB is obviously not correct--calling them

[cctalk] Re: 50 pins in three rows

2023-08-11 Thread Nigel Johnson Ham via cctalk
On 2023-08-11 19:08, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: The answer to the question about the DB-25 connector (and others) can be found here, if one trusts Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-subminiature No, DEC did not invent it, Cannon did. On Fri, 11 Aug 2023, Nigel Johnson Ham via cctalk

[cctalk] Re: 50 pins in three rows

2023-08-11 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
The answer to the question about the DB-25 connector (and others) can be found here, if one trusts Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-subminiature No, DEC did not invent it, Cannon did. On Fri, 11 Aug 2023, Nigel Johnson Ham via cctalk wrote: For once Wikipedia is right.  Those

[cctalk] Re: 50 pins in three rows

2023-08-11 Thread Nigel Johnson Ham via cctalk
For once Wikipedia is right.  Those diagrams are straight out of the original Canon datasheets! Nigel On 2023-08-11 15:47, Milo Velimirović via cctalk wrote: The answer to the question about the DB-25 connector (and others) can be found here, if one trusts Wikipedia.

[cctalk] Re: 50 pins in three rows

2023-08-11 Thread Milo Velimirović via cctalk
The answer to the question about the DB-25 connector (and others) can be found here, if one trusts Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-subminiature No, DEC did not invent it, Cannon did. —Milo > On Aug 11, 2023, at 2:06 PM, Steve Lewis via cctalk > wrote: > > While probably

[cctalk] Re: 50 pins in three rows

2023-08-11 Thread Steve Lewis via cctalk
While probably unrelated, the mentioning of 3 rows of pins did remind me about what I recently learned about the 1973 IBM SCAMP... On the back side of it, it has a 3-row of 14-13-14 female pins (next to what became a DB25 connector - did DEC come up with DB25??). Was curious if anything ideas on

[cctalk] Re: 50 pins in three rows

2023-08-06 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 8/6/23 14:08, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > > >> On Aug 4, 2023, at 10:10 PM, Jonathan Chapman via cctalk >> wrote: >> >>> Anyone seen those before, and is it actually SCSI, or is it something else? >> >> Common on old Sun SCSI stuff, it's a DD-50. Could be something else, but >> they

[cctalk] Re: 50 pins in three rows

2023-08-06 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Aug 4, 2023, at 10:10 PM, Jonathan Chapman via cctalk > wrote: > >> Anyone seen those before, and is it actually SCSI, or is it something else? > > Common on old Sun SCSI stuff, it's a DD-50. Could be something else, but they > were indeed used for SCSI termination. > > Thanks, >

[cctalk] Re: 50 pins in three rows

2023-08-05 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
> >>> Anyone seen those before, and is it actually SCSI, or is it something else? > >> Common on old Sun SCSI stuff, it's a DD-50. Could be something else, but >> they were indeed used for SCSI termination. > > Given what else was in there, this makes sense, and they look exactly like a > SCSI

[cctalk] Re: 50 pins in three rows

2023-08-04 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 8/4/23 19:07, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk wrote: > In a shipment today I got several AMP-labeled dongles that look like SCSI > terminators ... except the 50 pins are arranged in three rows (17-16-17), not > the Centronics-style 50-pin connector nor the usual 2-pin configuration. > > Anyone seen

[cctalk] Re: 50 pins in three rows

2023-08-04 Thread Cameron Kaiser via cctalk
>> Anyone seen those before, and is it actually SCSI, or is it something else? > Common on old Sun SCSI stuff, it's a DD-50. Could be something else, but they > were indeed used for SCSI termination. Given what else was in there, this makes sense, and they look exactly like a SCSI terminator

[cctalk] Re: 50 pins in three rows

2023-08-04 Thread Jonathan Chapman via cctalk
> Anyone seen those before, and is it actually SCSI, or is it something else? Common on old Sun SCSI stuff, it's a DD-50. Could be something else, but they were indeed used for SCSI termination. Thanks, Jonathan