[cctalk] Re: Data General MV/8000 emulator announcement

2024-10-07 Thread Sean Conner via cctalk
It was thus said that the Great Henry Bent via cctalk once stated: > On Mon, 7 Oct 2024 at 06:10, Maciej W. Rozycki via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > > > FWIW compiling 25 years old a piece of software is even tougher, unless > > you use contemporary tools in a contemporary envir

[cctalk] Re: Data General MV/8000 emulator announcement

2024-10-07 Thread Maciej W. Rozycki via cctalk
On Mon, 7 Oct 2024, Henry Bent via cctalk wrote: > > FWIW compiling 25 years old a piece of software is even tougher, unless > > you use contemporary tools in a contemporary environment, so while the > > availability of the source code is surely always worth appreciating, the > > challenge to mak

[cctalk] Re: Data General MV/8000 emulator announcement

2024-10-07 Thread Harald Arnesen via cctalk
Maciej W. Rozycki [2024-10-07 12:04:29]: FWIW compiling 25 years old a piece of software is even tougher, unless you use contemporary tools in a contemporary environment, so while the availability of the source code is surely always worth appreciating, the challenge to make them run is not any

[cctalk] Re: Data General MV/8000 emulator announcement

2024-10-07 Thread Henry Bent via cctalk
On Mon, 7 Oct 2024 at 06:10, Maciej W. Rozycki via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > FWIW compiling 25 years old a piece of software is even tougher, unless > you use contemporary tools in a contemporary environment, so while the > availability of the source code is surely always worth a

[cctalk] Re: Data General MV/8000 emulator announcement

2024-10-07 Thread Maciej W. Rozycki via cctalk
On Mon, 7 Oct 2024, Harald Arnesen via cctalk wrote: > > > Have you tried to run any libc5-program lately? Or a.out binaries? > > Does WordPerfect 8 (released in 1998) count? > > > > If so, yes, I have: > > > > https://www.theregister.com/2022/07/20/wordperfect_for_unix_for_linux/ > > > > Instr

[cctalk] Re: Data General MV/8000 emulator announcement

2024-10-07 Thread Harald Arnesen via cctalk
Liam Proven via cctalk [2024-10-07 11:10:56]: Have you tried to run any libc5-program lately? Or a.out binaries? Does WordPerfect 8 (released in 1998) count? If so, yes, I have: https://www.theregister.com/2022/07/20/wordperfect_for_unix_for_linux/ Instructions to install it yourself: https

[cctalk] Re: Data General MV/8000 emulator announcement

2024-10-07 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sat, 5 Oct 2024 at 17:38, Harald Arnesen via cctalk wrote: > Have you tried to run any libc5-program lately? Or a.out binaries? Does WordPerfect 8 (released in 1998) count? If so, yes, I have: https://www.theregister.com/2022/07/20/wordperfect_for_unix_for_linux/ Instructions to install it

[cctalk] Re: Data General MV/8000 emulator announcement (Bruce Ray)

2024-10-06 Thread ben via cctalk
On 2024-10-06 5:07 a.m., Evan Linwood via cctalk wrote: A Data General MV/8000 emulator beta release is now available from my DG legacy preservation web site: This is really something - thanks so much Bruce! Is there a recommended single board computer for the emulators, or hardware card

[cctalk] Re: Data General MV/8000 emulator announcement (Bruce Ray)

2024-10-06 Thread Evan Linwood via cctalk
> A Data General MV/8000 emulator beta release is now available from my DG > legacy preservation web site: This is really something - thanks so much Bruce!

[cctalk] Re: Data General MV/8000 emulator announcement

2024-10-05 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Oct 5, 2024, at 11:35 AM, Bruce Ray via cctalk > wrote: > > > On 10/4/2024 2:04 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: >> Nice! >> >> So is this the current open-simh simulator, or a newer version? Will you >> update the one in open-simh? >> >> paul >> > > None of the SimH version

[cctalk] Re: Data General MV/8000 emulator announcement

2024-10-05 Thread Cameron Kaiser via cctalk
>>> A Data General MV/8000 emulator beta release is now available from my DG >>> legacy preservation web site: >>> >>> www.NovasAreForever.org >> >> Very good. Will there be source code, for those of us not on x86 or ARM? >> > > This is a new emulator that uses parts of our commercial product stuf

[cctalk] Re: Data General MV/8000 emulator announcement

2024-10-05 Thread Maciej W. Rozycki via cctalk
On Sat, 5 Oct 2024, Harald Arnesen via cctalk wrote: > > Linux maintains backwards ABI compatibility as far as both the OS kernel > > and the C library is concerned. If something breaks with an upgrade then > > please report a bug rather than complaining on a random mailing list (not > > that I

[cctalk] Re: Data General MV/8000 emulator announcement

2024-10-05 Thread Harald Arnesen via cctalk
Maciej W. Rozycki via cctalk [2024-10-05 16:51:13]: On Sat, 5 Oct 2024, Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote: As the software is binary only it won't be "Forever", but only until the next major change in Windows or Linux APIs which breaks binary compatibility. Linux maintains backwards ABI compati

[cctalk] Re: Data General MV/8000 emulator announcement

2024-10-05 Thread Bruce Ray via cctalk
On 10/4/2024 8:53 PM, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk wrote: A Data General MV/8000 emulator beta release is now available from my DG legacy preservation web site: www.NovasAreForever.org Very good. Will there be source code, for those of us not on x86 or ARM? This is a new emulator that uses p

[cctalk] Re: Data General MV/8000 emulator announcement

2024-10-05 Thread Bruce Ray via cctalk
On 10/4/2024 2:04 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: Nice! So is this the current open-simh simulator, or a newer version? Will you update the one in open-simh? paul None of the SimH versions currently has an MV emulator, so there is technically nothing to "update". This is a new

[cctalk] Re: Data General MV/8000 emulator announcement

2024-10-05 Thread Maciej W. Rozycki via cctalk
On Sat, 5 Oct 2024, Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote: > As the software is binary only it won't be "Forever", but only until the > next major change in Windows or Linux APIs which breaks binary > compatibility. Linux maintains backwards ABI compatibility as far as both the OS kernel and the C libra

[cctalk] Re: Data General MV/8000 emulator announcement

2024-10-05 Thread CAREY SCHUG via cctalk
not really, just run the emulator in a VM or even an x86 emulator with the old winblows/linux. --Carey > On 10/04/2024 11:42 PM CDT Tom Hunter via cctalk > wrote: > > > > > > ... > > Now "MVs Are Forever..." > > ... > > > > As the software is binary only it won't be "Forever", but only un

[cctalk] Re: Data General MV/8000 emulator announcement

2024-10-04 Thread Tom Hunter via cctalk
> > ... > Now "MVs Are Forever..." > ... > As the software is binary only it won't be "Forever", but only until the next major change in Windows or Linux APIs which breaks binary compatibility.

[cctalk] Re: Data General MV/8000 emulator announcement

2024-10-04 Thread Cameron Kaiser via cctalk
> A Data General MV/8000 emulator beta release is now available from my DG > legacy preservation web site: > > www.NovasAreForever.org Very good. Will there be source code, for those of us not on x86 or ARM? -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ --

[cctalk] Re: Data General MV/8000 emulator announcement

2024-10-04 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
Nice! So is this the current open-simh simulator, or a newer version? Will you update the one in open-simh? paul > On Oct 4, 2024, at 1:57 PM, Bruce Ray via cctalk > wrote: > > A Data General MV/8000 emulator beta release is now available from my DG > legacy preservation web site: >

[cctalk] Re: Data General MV/8000 emulator announcement

2024-10-04 Thread Rich Alderson via cctalk
Woohoo! Rich Alderson Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 4, 2024, at 11:00, Bruce Ray via cctalk wrote: > > A Data General MV/8000 emulator beta release is now available from my DG > legacy preservation web site: > > www.NovasAreForever.org > > > The MV/8000 emulator runs AOS/VS and AOS/VS II, pl