I knew most of this, which is why emulating the floppy controller should be 
easier.

applesauce is platform specific (ok, ANY floppy emulation will be platform 
specific for apple)

I thought the applesauce page said it was not yet available for standard 
shugart style as in trs-80, s-100...

greaseweasel is platform specific.  the color coco is not yet available in the 
USA, needing shipping from Europe, which in my experience is not cheap.  not 
even promised for trs80 1/3/4 or s-100.  and are the parts cheap?  dunno.

did not know about gcr/mfm on same floppy...if you respond, please mention who 
does that.  gaak, I don't even
recognize "gcr" at this point.  I remember mfm and something else.  mfm was 
single density, right?  was gcr 
double density?  does not seem familiar, but certainly there was a double 
density encoding scheme that the
device attached to the floppy cable would have to recognize.

I had forgotten that atari?  commodore? changed speed, though I remember I knew 
that before. 

<pre>--Carey</pre>

> On 02/27/2024 5:18 PM CST Wayne S via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> 
>  
> The “support” channel has the most info on the applesause.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Feb 27, 2024, at 15:12, Wayne S <wayne.su...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>  Chuck, not to disagree much, because you are an expert, but there’s more to 
> decoding floppies than just reading them. Some floppies have tracks that are 
> recorded at different speeds. Some have tracks that use different modulation 
> gcr on some and mfm on others. A lot of floppies have different skew. The 
> applesauce tries to handle these problems and give you a readable file. It’s 
> mostly in the software.
> 
> I tried to send the discord link but don’t know if it got thru so here it is 
> again
> 
> https://discord.gg/njetE8zU
> 
> Wayne
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Feb 27, 2024, at 15:02, Chuck Guzis via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> 
> wrote:
> 
> On 2/27/24 14:42, Wayne S via cctalk wrote:
> Take a look at the Applesauce.
> It hooks up to a lot of different floppy drives and records and decodes the 
> flux.
> Version2 of the hardware is being sourced and should be available in a few 
> months.
> 
> Good grief, there are more of these things floating around than one can
> shake a stick at.   The Greasweazel is perhaps the cheapest, using a $3
> ($1.30 or so from Aliexpress) STM32F103 "Blue Pill" board.
> 
> It's almost trivial doing this if you don't need the "eye candy".
> Basically you run a timer in capture mode, with capture triggered by an
> edge on the drive's "read data" line.
> 
> Modern MCUs don't even break a sweat doing this.
> 
> It's nice seeing the proliferation after many years of harping on the
> subject...
> 
> --Chuck

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