Re: Printer ribbons [Was: Re: 1990 Era computer room]

2015-06-24 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 06/24/2015 07:40 PM, ste...@malikoff.com wrote: I recall the ink was thicker and more oily than modern inkjet ink, sort of like what a stamp pad has. Yup, about five years ago, I gave away mine on the Vintage Computer forum. It had very little mileage on it, mostly because of the mess. Th

Re: Printer ribbons [Was: Re: 1990 Era computer room]

2015-06-24 Thread Alexandre Souza
would not be difficult to build a workalike device from Lego or a junked > Microwave oven turntable motor. > > Steve. > > Original Message ---- > Subject: Re: Printer ribbons [Was: Re: 1990 Era computer room] > From:&qu

Re: Printer ribbons [Was: Re: 1990 Era computer room]

2015-06-24 Thread steven
e: Printer ribbons [Was: Re: 1990 Era computer room] From:"Alexandre Souza" Date:Thu, June 25, 2015 7:13 am To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" -- > > Get a printer r

Re: Printer ribbons [Was: Re: 1990 Era computer room]

2015-06-24 Thread Alexandre Souza
-labs.blogspot.com - Original Message - From: "Pontus Pihlgren" To: ; "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 5:19 AM Subject: Printer ribbons [Was: Re: 1990 Era computer room] On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 10:14:00PM -0700, j

Re: 1990 Era computer room

2015-06-24 Thread jwsmobile
On 6/24/2015 9:50 AM, wulfman wrote: ahh the memorys i worked at dataproducts from late 1978 to late 1980 they were awesome printers the B series used the 2900 series bit slice building blocks they were speed daemons for their time its too bad that manufacturing in the USA has dropped becau

Re: 1990 Era computer room

2015-06-24 Thread jwsmobile
On 6/24/2015 9:33 AM, J. David Bryan wrote: On Tuesday, June 23, 2015 at 22:14, jwsmobile wrote: Also I don't recall the Data Products ever scaling as fast by restricting columns. At least our 2230, 2260 and 2290 UC only and 96 character set printers didn't. Got the same speed regardless of

Re: 1990 Era computer room

2015-06-24 Thread wulfman
ahh the memorys i worked at dataproducts from late 1978 to late 1980 they were awesome printers the B series used the 2900 series bit slice building blocks they were speed daemons for their time its too bad that manufacturing in the USA has dropped because of cheap Chinese we may still have gr

Re: 1990 Era computer room

2015-06-24 Thread J. David Bryan
On Tuesday, June 23, 2015 at 22:14, jwsmobile wrote: > Also I don't recall the Data Products ever scaling as fast by > restricting columns. At least our 2230, 2260 and 2290 UC only and 96 > character set printers didn't. Got the same speed regardless of the > columns on those Data Products print

Re: 1990 Era computer room

2015-06-24 Thread Paul Anderson
If anybody has one I am interested in a Data Products 2310 if that is the same as the DEC LP01. It should be an 80 column zone printer, and I might take a relabeled one. The pedestal one is preferred but a table top would be OK. Thanks, Paul On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 1:06 PM, J. David Bryan wrote:

Re: Printer ribbons [Was: Re: 1990 Era computer room]

2015-06-24 Thread COURYHOUSE
you re ink the old ribbon... used to do that with tty ribbons the 14 inch line printer width.. messy but doable I remember having to make a dried ribbon a bit juicer one time strung it between to poles in the parkinlot and sprayed I think it was a litte wd-40 o

Printer ribbons [Was: Re: 1990 Era computer room]

2015-06-24 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 10:14:00PM -0700, jwsmobile wrote: > The only reference I could find that separated them are to google > for the printer ribbons. I find a lot of the companies who list > ribbons don't purge their databases of even the most ridiculously > old products, and they list models.

Re: 1990 Era computer room

2015-06-23 Thread COURYHOUSE
the only one that did the hi speed reduced cols was that table top 80 col one for dataproduicts that I know of. our larger ones did not. by the way that small dataproducts also had a floor pedestal that made it a tall tower and you could open door for paper box...

Re: 1990 Era computer room

2015-06-23 Thread jwsmobile
On 6/23/2015 9:39 PM, Mark Linimon wrote: On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 03:42:54PM -0700, jwsmobile wrote: II do have an 80 column Dataprinter that looks like the one in the photo, not a Data Products. There were two different companies, Data Printer and DataProducts. Confused everyone even at the

Re: 1990 Era computer room

2015-06-23 Thread Mark Linimon
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 03:42:54PM -0700, jwsmobile wrote: > II do have an 80 column Dataprinter that looks like the one in the photo, > not a Data Products. There were two different companies, Data Printer and DataProducts. Confused everyone even at the time IIRC. mcl

Re: 1990 Era computer room

2015-06-23 Thread jwsmobile
On 6/23/2015 12:50 PM, couryho...@aol.com wrote: hp drives yes... data printer no... correct name is data products and a neat printer if you were just printing the first 20 col zone I remember something about this model banging it out at 800 or 1000 lpm II do have an 80 column Dat

Re: 1990 Era computer room

2015-06-23 Thread Brent Hilpert
On 2015-Jun-23, at 2:28 PM, william degnan wrote: > On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Brent Hilpert wrote: >> On 2015-Jun-23, at 12:50 PM, couryho...@aol.com wrote: >>> hp drives yes... >>> ... >>> >>> OK another odd thing - note tapes but lack of tape drives. >>> >>> If only we could see

Re: 1990 Era computer room

2015-06-23 Thread william degnan
It could be a bunch of terminal multiplexers or communications controllers, does not even have to be CPU's... On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Brent Hilpert wrote: > On 2015-Jun-23, at 12:50 PM, couryho...@aol.com wrote: > > hp drives yes... > > ... > > > > OK another odd thing - note tapes bu

Re: 1990 Era computer room

2015-06-23 Thread Rod Smallwood
Yes I noticed the rarther fancy panels with the edgewise meters. I'm begining to wonder if they might be for monitoring private comms circuits. Sort of a comms test box. The meters would be right for signal to noise and the row of buttons at the bottom for channel to monitor selection. On 23/

Re: 1990 Era computer room

2015-06-23 Thread Brent Hilpert
On 2015-Jun-23, at 12:50 PM, couryho...@aol.com wrote: > hp drives yes... > ... > > OK another odd thing - note tapes but lack of tape drives. > > If only we could see what was in the rest of the room! I think those are all disk cartridges, rather than tapes. I was trying to guess what

Re: 1990 Era computer room

2015-06-23 Thread Jules Richardson
On 06/22/2015 11:43 PM, Christian Kennedy wrote: I think the hint is on the back. This is a story of Delaine Donohue retiring from D&B where he created and ran the National Business Information Center and the Central Data Collection Group between the early 70s and early 80s. He retired in ’89,

Re: 1990 Era computer room

2015-06-23 Thread COURYHOUSE
hp drives yes... data printer no... correct name is data products and a neat printer if you were just printing the first 20 col zone I remember something about this model banging it out at 800 or 1000 lpm at full 80 col it was 300 LPM ( This was the first formal sale o

RE: 1990 Era computer room

2015-06-23 Thread J. David Bryan
On Monday, June 22, 2015 at 15:39, Jay West wrote: > The disc drives appear to be HP 7900A drives. I agree. A few pictures for comparison here: http://www.hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?hw=275 The printers appear to be Data Products 2310 drum printers, also sold as the HP 2767A; photos: h

Re: 1990 Era computer room

2015-06-22 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 06/22/2015 09:43 PM, Christian Kennedy wrote: I think the hint is on the back. This is a story of Delaine Donohue retiring from D&B where he created and ran the National Business Information Center and the Central Data Collection Group between the early 70s and early 80s. He retired in ’89,

Re: 1990 Era computer room

2015-06-22 Thread william degnan
You're sure this is a picture from 1990? Looks older. On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Rod Smallwood < rodsmallwoo...@btinternet.com> wrote: > > It looks like three dual systems with processors sharing common storage. > Tandem? or other robust ysytem > > Rod > > > On 22/06/2015 21:39, Jay West w

Re: 1990 Era computer room

2015-06-22 Thread Christian Kennedy
> On 22 Jun 2015, at 19:14, Jon Elson wrote: > > Also, it is clearly NOT 1990 era, probably much closer to mid-1970's. The > cartridge disk drives look a little like double-decker Diablos, with the > packs in racks on top of the cabinets. The CPUs remind me of TI machines, > but these would

Re: 1990 Era computer room

2015-06-22 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/22/2015 04:19 PM, Rod Smallwood wrote: It looks like three dual systems with processors sharing common storage. Tandem? or other robust ysytem That AIN'T tandem, I'm sure. A couple good friends worked for Tandem from very near the beginning, so I know what a Non-stop I looks like. H

RE: 1990 Era computer room

2015-06-22 Thread steven
The drives appear similar to those on the HP 3000. Could it be an OEM process control version? http://www.hpmuseum.net/images/3000_1972-35.jpg Steve. Original Message Subject: RE: 1990 Era computer room From:"Jay West" Da

Re: 1990 Era computer room

2015-06-22 Thread Brent Hilpert
On 2015-Jun-22, at 2:19 PM, Rod Smallwood wrote: > On 22/06/2015 21:39, Jay West wrote: >> On 2015-Jun-22, at 9:16 AM, Douglas Taylor wrote: >> I saw this newpaper photo on ebay, item 191606970872, where these 2 big wigs >> are proudly standing in front of their computer system looking over some

Re: 1990 Era computer room

2015-06-22 Thread Rod Smallwood
It looks like three dual systems with processors sharing common storage. Tandem? or other robust ysytem Rod On 22/06/2015 21:39, Jay West wrote: I saw this newpaper photo on ebay, item 191606970872, where these 2 big wigs are proudly standing in front of their computer system looking ov

Re: 1990 Era computer room

2015-06-22 Thread jwsmobile
On 6/22/2015 9:16 AM, Douglas Taylor wrote: I saw this newpaper photo on ebay, item 191606970872, where these 2 big wigs are proudly standing in front of their computer system looking over some printout. The actual computers in the picture don't look familiar to me, can anyone ID them? Do

RE: 1990 Era computer room

2015-06-22 Thread Jay West
I saw this newpaper photo on ebay, item 191606970872, where these 2 big wigs are proudly standing in front of their computer system looking over some printout. The actual computers in the picture don't look familiar to me, can anyone ID them? The disc drives appear to be HP 7900A driv

1990 Era computer room

2015-06-22 Thread Douglas Taylor
I saw this newpaper photo on ebay, item 191606970872, where these 2 big wigs are proudly standing in front of their computer system looking over some printout. The actual computers in the picture don't look familiar to me, can anyone ID them? Doug