Re: Best name for PDP-11/05-10

2016-03-04 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Mattis Lind > I have a physical tech manual (which is not the same as the one at > bitsavers) > ... > I should probably scan that tech manual if someone hasn't done it > already. The ones I have found online are: DEC-11-H05AA-A-DJan, '73PD

Re: Best name for PDP-11/05-10

2016-02-26 Thread Mattis Lind
2016-02-26 15:04 GMT+01:00 Noel Chiappa : > > From: Mattis Lind > > > The NC is in the BA11-D 10 1/2 inch box. It uses the H750 PSU. > > Odd. I have an -11/10 in a 10-1/2 box with an H750; the metal plate on the > back of the box just says "PDP 11-10" (well, the '-' is actually a dot, at >

Re: Best name for PDP-11/05-10

2016-02-26 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Mattis Lind > The NC is in the BA11-D 10 1/2 inch box. It uses the H750 PSU. Odd. I have an -11/10 in a 10-1/2 box with an H750; the metal plate on the back of the box just says "PDP 11-10" (well, the '-' is actually a dot, at the level of the '-'). No 'NC'. I wonder if that's a c

Re: Best name for PDP-11/05-10

2016-02-25 Thread william degnan
> > > > > > I always treated the 11/05 and 11/10 as separate machines, just as > > much > > > as the 11/05 S and 11/05 NC. > > > > Can you please remind me again what the differences with the 11/05NC > are? I > > remembered we discussed it, but I'm too lazy to dig through the list > > archi

Re: Best name for PDP-11/05-10

2016-02-25 Thread Mattis Lind
2016-02-25 14:55 GMT+01:00 Noel Chiappa : > > From: Paul Koning > > > FWIW, I have always heard 11/05 and 11/40 respectively. > > Good to know that others have the same vibe that I do. > > > > From: Bill Degnan > > > putting all of that original 11/10 stuff aside :-) > > :-) > >

Re: Best name for PDP-11/05-10

2016-02-25 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Paul Koning > FWIW, I have always heard 11/05 and 11/40 respectively. Good to know that others have the same vibe that I do. > From: Bill Degnan > putting all of that original 11/10 stuff aside :-) :-) > There is a version of the processor handbook with all 4, and

Re: Best name for PDP-11/05-10

2016-02-24 Thread Paul Anderson
The 11/05 and 11/10, or whatever you want to call them are rather unique. I believe they are the only cpu in the PDP11 family with the slu built onto the cpu boards, and have the the same cpu, M7260 and M7261, use about 6 different backplanes, most of then listed in the Unibus Troubleshooting Guide

Re: Best name for PDP-11/05-10

2016-02-24 Thread william degnan
> > >> > >> > With the /05 being the OEM machine, and the /10 end user one, we (and >> DEC) >> > seem to have picked the OEM variant in one as the 'canonical' model, >> and in >> > the other, the end-user variant. >> >> Interesting point. FWIW, I have always heard 11/05 and 11/40 >> respectively.

Re: Best name for PDP-11/05-10

2016-02-24 Thread william degnan
On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 2:40 PM, Paul Koning wrote: > > > On Feb 24, 2016, at 2:04 PM, Noel Chiappa > wrote: > > > > So, what's the best short name for the pair of machines, the PDP-11/05 > and > > PDP-11/10 (which differ only in the nameplate)? > > > > I have generally been calling them the '11

Re: Best name for PDP-11/05-10

2016-02-24 Thread Paul Koning
> On Feb 24, 2016, at 2:04 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > So, what's the best short name for the pair of machines, the PDP-11/05 and > PDP-11/10 (which differ only in the nameplate)? > > I have generally been calling them the '11/05's, since that's what's on many > of the extant drawings, manuals,

Best name for PDP-11/05-10

2016-02-24 Thread Noel Chiappa
So, what's the best short name for the pair of machines, the PDP-11/05 and PDP-11/10 (which differ only in the nameplate)? I have generally been calling them the '11/05's, since that's what's on many of the extant drawings, manuals, etc - and DEC seems to prefer the '05' in manual ID's, even when