Re: Chromatics on ebay

2015-07-25 Thread COURYHOUSE
guess it was worth more than $5 Huh? In a message dated 7/25/2015 1:51:42 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, a...@bitsavers.org writes: Just came across his original listing http://www.ebay.com/itm/281747887309 Disturbingly, the ICs are pulled out of their sockets On 7/25/15 8:27 AM,

Re: Chromatics on ebay

2015-07-25 Thread Al Kossow
Just came across his original listing http://www.ebay.com/itm/281747887309 Disturbingly, the ICs are pulled out of their sockets On 7/25/15 8:27 AM, Al Kossow wrote: On 7/25/15 8:24 AM, Al Kossow wrote: On 7/24/15 1:14 PM, pdaguytom . wrote: Back on TAS for just shy of a grand with free

Re: Chromatics on ebay (Al Kossow)

2015-07-25 Thread Al Kossow
On 7/25/15 1:03 PM, John Wallace wrote: Was there any software of note for Chromatics? I don't know much about the 1599. The 7900 68K machines had a DOS. CHM has a 7900 w docs, but no software.

Re: Chromatics on ebay (Al Kossow)

2015-07-25 Thread John Wallace
>On 7/25/15 8:24 AM, Al Kossow wrote: >> >> >> On 7/24/15 1:14 PM, pdaguytom . wrote: >>> Back on TAS for just shy of a grand with free shipping. >>> >>> >> and someone bought it >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/281757114979 >> >> >I've probably seen a dozen of them for sale in the 25+ years of watching

Re: Chromatics on ebay

2015-07-25 Thread Al Kossow
On 7/25/15 8:24 AM, Al Kossow wrote: On 7/24/15 1:14 PM, pdaguytom . wrote: Back on TAS for just shy of a grand with free shipping. and someone bought it http://www.ebay.com/itm/281757114979 I've probably seen a dozen of them for sale in the 25+ years of watching this stuff, and what I

Re: Chromatics on ebay

2015-07-25 Thread Al Kossow
On 7/24/15 1:14 PM, pdaguytom . wrote: Back on TAS for just shy of a grand with free shipping. and someone bought it http://www.ebay.com/itm/281757114979

Re: Chromatics on ebay

2015-07-24 Thread pdaguytom .
Back on TAS for just shy of a grand with free shipping. On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Tothwolf wrote: > On Fri, 24 Jul 2015, William Donzelli wrote: > > Sounds like you are doing much better than me. >>> >> >> Power Seller Master Race. >> > > Pfft...Nintendo forever! ;P > > Just a former Pow

Re: Chromatics on ebay

2015-07-24 Thread Tothwolf
On Fri, 24 Jul 2015, William Donzelli wrote: Sounds like you are doing much better than me. Power Seller Master Race. Pfft...Nintendo forever! ;P Just a former Power Seller here...and all I got was this lousy mug and certificate.

Re: Chromatics on ebay

2015-07-24 Thread Stefan Skoglund
tor 2015-07-23 klockan 18:08 -0400 skrev william degnan: > I told him start with buy it now for $2000 with best offer, leave it > to see what kind of watchers and interest he gets then lower the price > until a sale is made. That said, because you're asking for the item > to be shipped, the seller

Re: Chromatics on ebay

2015-07-24 Thread William Donzelli
> Sounds like you are doing much better than me. Power Seller Master Race. -- Will

Re: Chromatics on ebay

2015-07-24 Thread Tothwolf
On Fri, 24 Jul 2015, William Donzelli wrote: Within the last year or so, eBay removed the ability to report a "non-selling seller". The only way to report a seller for this now (so they get a "strike" on their account) is to pick up the phone and call eBay. You have to ask (demand) to speak to

Re: Chromatics on ebay

2015-07-24 Thread William Donzelli
> Within the last year or so, eBay removed the ability to report a > "non-selling seller". The only way to report a seller for this now (so they > get a "strike" on their account) is to pick up the phone and call eBay. You > have to ask (demand) to speak to someone in "Trust and Safety" and you als

Re: Chromatics on ebay

2015-07-23 Thread Sean Caron
+1; weak sauce from the seller ... he listed it and the auction ran to completion ... It always irks me when people renege on eBay auctions. Best, Sean On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Todd Goodman wrote: > That's just seller's remorse. > > It's obviously up to you, but I'd have strongly cons

Re: Chromatics on ebay

2015-07-23 Thread Tothwolf
On Thu, 23 Jul 2015, William Donzelli wrote: That's just seller's remorse. It's obviously up to you, but I'd have strongly considered disputing it with eBay as a seller refusing to honor the auction results is every bit as bad (or even worse) than a buyer refusing to honor the auction result

Re: Chromatics on ebay

2015-07-23 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Josh Dersch > I spent some time debating that last night and this morning. Chalk it > up to me feeling charitable this week ... I thought I'd give the guy a > break. Well, the question is, how important is this gear to you? If you've been looking for one for a decade, that

Re: Chromatics on ebay

2015-07-23 Thread William Donzelli
> I'm also trying to be a nicer person (look how few arguments I've gotten in > on cctalk lately! progress!) and I thought I'd give the guy a break. But > I'm still pretty ticked off about it, so maybe I'll reconsider :). Reconsider with some shitty feedback. -- Will

Re: Chromatics on ebay

2015-07-23 Thread Josh Dersch
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 2:15 PM, William Donzelli wrote: > > That's just seller's remorse. > > > > It's obviously up to you, but I'd have strongly considered disputing it > with > > eBay as a seller refusing to honor the auction results is every bit as > > bad (or even worse) than a buyer refusin

Re: Chromatics on ebay

2015-07-23 Thread Jason T
Another thing that will affect the value here that I don't think has been pointed out yet: the seller apparently has three of these things (note his responses to bidder questions.) And another another thing: they've also been sitting outside for who knows how many years.

Re: Chromatics on ebay

2015-07-23 Thread william degnan
obviously not in this case! On Jul 23, 2015 8:21 PM, "Ian Finder" wrote: > Just for the record, I hate the methodology below: > Are auctions no longer a valid way to determine value? > > > > I told him start with buy it now for $2000 with best offer, leave it > > to see what kind of watchers and

Re: Chromatics on ebay

2015-07-23 Thread Ian Finder
Just for the record, I hate the methodology below: Are auctions no longer a valid way to determine value? > I told him start with buy it now for $2000 with best offer, leave it > to see what kind of watchers and interest he gets then lower the price > until a sale is made. Sent from my iPhone

Re: Chromatics on ebay

2015-07-23 Thread John Robertson
On 07/23/2015 2:15 PM, William Donzelli wrote: That's just seller's remorse. It's obviously up to you, but I'd have strongly considered disputing it with eBay as a seller refusing to honor the auction results is every bit as bad (or even worse) than a buyer refusing to honor the auction result.

Re: Chromatics on ebay

2015-07-23 Thread wulfman
You can offer to take him to small claims court for the item. That option has worked well for me in the past. Once you let them know the option of a court case is real they are more than willing to deal with the contract. IT's quite clear in the ebay auction terms. On 7/23/2015 3:54 PM, Noel Ch

Re: Chromatics on ebay

2015-07-23 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: william degnan > I told him start with buy it now for $2000 with best offer And there's the key to the situation. The seller thought they were going to get big dineros for it, and not so much. Which is likely a good part of why they aren't being reasonable in the post-sale ne

Re: Chromatics on ebay

2015-07-23 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 07/23/2015 03:27 PM, William Donzelli wrote: It is always hard to know the real story. It *is* possible the seller genuinely didn't know what they were doing. As an Ebay veteran, I can say I have heard ALL the excuses. This does sound like classic sellers remorse. I agree with this. I've

Re: Chromatics on ebay

2015-07-23 Thread William Donzelli
> It is always hard to know the real story. It *is* possible the seller > genuinely didn't know what they were doing. As an Ebay veteran, I can say I have heard ALL the excuses. This does sound like classic sellers remorse. If he really though it was worth serious money, he should have been more

Re: Chromatics on ebay

2015-07-23 Thread william degnan
different than chromatix, correct? On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 6:12 PM, Jarratt RMA wrote: > It is always hard to know the real story. It *is* possible the seller > genuinely didn't know what they were doing. I know I can be too willing to > give others the benefit of the doubt, and, equally this cou

Re: Chromatics on ebay

2015-07-23 Thread Jarratt RMA
It is always hard to know the real story. It *is* possible the seller genuinely didn't know what they were doing. I know I can be too willing to give others the benefit of the doubt, and, equally this could be an experienced seller pretending not to know, when his plan to avoid higher insertion fee

Re: Chromatics on ebay

2015-07-23 Thread william degnan
I told him start with buy it now for $2000 with best offer, leave it to see what kind of watchers and interest he gets then lower the price until a sale is made. That said, because you're asking for the item to be shipped, the seller can refuse on that ground, you have a Mexican standoff. I beli

Re: Chromatics on ebay

2015-07-23 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Josh Dersch > the seller and I failed to reach an agreement You were very nice to try and work with the person; if they couldn't take that on board, and in return come to some agreement that you could be happy with, they're being some combinations of greedy and unreasonable. I ha

Re: Chromatics on ebay

2015-07-23 Thread William Donzelli
> That's just seller's remorse. > > It's obviously up to you, but I'd have strongly considered disputing it with > eBay as a seller refusing to honor the auction results is every bit as > bad (or even worse) than a buyer refusing to honor the auction result. I agree. Report him. Basic Ebay auctio

Re: Chromatics on ebay

2015-07-23 Thread Todd Goodman
That's just seller's remorse. It's obviously up to you, but I'd have strongly considered disputing it with eBay as a seller refusing to honor the auction results is every bit as bad (or even worse) than a buyer refusing to honor the auction result. The value of it was determined. It's the $5 you

Re: Chromatics on ebay

2015-07-23 Thread Josh Dersch
Just FYI -- the seller and I failed to reach an agreement; I assume this means he'll be relisting it (hopefully with a starting bid or reserve that matches his expectations). - Josh On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 10:45 AM, william degnan wrote: > I told him he might get $500 in untested condition, a l

Re: Chromatics on ebay

2015-07-23 Thread william degnan
I told him he might get $500 in untested condition, a lot more if it works. Video, good pics, be ready with a ship quote, etc. He may have asked more than just me, but that is what I told him On Jul 23, 2015 12:31 PM, "Josh Dersch" wrote: > It was me. Despite the listing being "local pickup o

Re: Chromatics on ebay

2015-07-23 Thread Josh Dersch
It was me. Despite the listing being "local pickup only" the description notes that the seller's willing to arrange shipping (it just won't be cheap). So I put in a lowball bid on it. Did not expect to be the high bidder, definitely did not expect to be the only bidder. That said, immediate

Re: Chromatics on ebay

2015-07-23 Thread Sean Caron
Geography matters ... if you're in the right area, say, near a university with a historically high computer science impact, or large high-tech industries ... you can find a lot of equipment for free or very low cost since the density was high and you're well situated to inexpensively pick up large

Re: Chromatics on ebay

2015-07-23 Thread william degnan
I told the person that they will get more $$ if they prepare in advance to ship, etc. People don't care and /or are lazy sometimes. b On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Bill Sudbrink wrote: >> I spoke with the person, told him it was historic, looked up some info >> on the machine and when it was

RE: Chromatics on ebay

2015-07-23 Thread Bill Sudbrink
> I spoke with the person, told him it was historic, looked up some info > on the machine and when it was produced, etc. VERY surprised it sold > for $5. Total bargain. That's what "local pickup only" will do to an auction. There's a Vector MZ for 99 cents right now for the same reason. Bill S.

Re: Chromatics on ebay

2015-07-23 Thread william degnan
I spoke with the person, told him it was historic, looked up some info on the machine and when it was produced, etc. VERY surprised it sold for $5. Total bargain. b On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 10:24 AM, Al Kossow wrote: > did anyone here get this? > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/281752359535 > > I am i

Chromatics on ebay

2015-07-23 Thread Al Kossow
did anyone here get this? http://www.ebay.com/itm/281752359535 I am interested in a firmware dump, but not enough to drive to socal to get it.