DEC ML11 (Was: DEC KM11 (Was: DEC KL11))

2021-09-24 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Tony Duell > Were there 2 things called the KM11? > The KM11 that I know is the maintenance unit > From: Paul Birkel > I think that we're all talking about the ML11-A, or at least are > intending to ... although the Subject line has been erroneous from the >

RE: DEC KM11 (Was: DEC KL11)

2021-09-24 Thread Paul Birkel via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Tony Duell > via cctalk > Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 4:12 AM > To: Noel Chiappa; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: DEC KM11 (Was: DEC KL11) > &

Re: DEC KM11 (Was: DEC KL11)

2021-09-24 Thread Tony Duell via cctalk
On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 6:38 PM Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > Huh? The KM11 doesn't plug into the UNIBUS (or QBUS); it's a MASSBUS device (a > solid-state storage device, actually), so it plugs into an RH11 or RH70 or > something like that. (I should work with the VAX MASSBUS controller, too.)

Re: DEC KM11 (Was: DEC KL11)

2021-09-23 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
My notes (from sources unknown) say (of the ML11A): solid-state (ram) disk; 2MB/s xfer 1-31 arrays of 512 or 2048 blocks ea using 11/70 MK11 (MOS) memory looked like RS03/RS04 to s/w Ok, that makes sense. http://gunkies.org/wiki/RS03/04_disk_drive says about *REAL* RS03/04

Re: DEC KM11 (Was: DEC KL11)

2021-09-23 Thread Phil Budne via cctalk
> But the sector format is a different matter. If it's designed for > PDP-11 and friends, presumably it has a 512 byte sector size. > For PDP-10 or -20 use you'd presumably want a sector size consisting > of some round number of 36 bit words. 576 byte sectors (128 words), IIRC. The unit of allo

Re: DEC KM11 (Was: DEC KL11)

2021-09-23 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Paul Koning > But the sector format is a different matter. If it's designed for > PDP-11 and friends, presumably it has a 512 byte sector size. For > PDP-10 or -20 use you'd presumably want a sector size consisting of > some round number of 36 bit words. Actually, the

Re: DEC KM11 (Was: DEC KL11)

2021-09-23 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Sep 23, 2021, at 1:38 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk > wrote: > >> So I can't say whether they are 18 bit compatible. > > Huh? The KM11 doesn't plug into the UNIBUS (or QBUS); it's a MASSBUS device (a > solid-state storage device, actually), so it plugs into an RH11 or RH70 or > something

DEC KM11 (Was: DEC KL11)

2021-09-23 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Mark Kahrs There's a typo in your original Subject: line: the KL11 is a very early UNIBUS (probably the very first UNIBUS device ever, looking at the board's Mxxx number) asyn serial line interface: https://gunkies.org/wiki/KL11_asynchronous_serial_line_interface > manx tells