DEC color standards was: Re: Banner Panels

2016-12-30 Thread Charles Dickman
Rod, On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 8:04 PM, Rod Smallwood wrote: > Hi Guys > > I have had a quick word with the girls down at the silk screen > shop. A couple of years ago I tried to translate the DEC color standards to RGB based on the colors in the standards on bitsavers. Here is what I

Re: DEC color standards was: Re: Banner Panels

2016-12-30 Thread william degnan
You can add the industrial/11 blue and red to your color page, not an exact match to any that you have on your site, but my photos are not color consistent, you'd have to see or scan. From my eye (and I am a web designer who has to match colors for living) my actual industrial/11 is red/white/blue

Re: DEC color standards was: Re: Banner Panels

2016-12-30 Thread Charles Dickman
On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 11:14 PM, william degnan wrote: > You can add the industrial/11 blue and red to your color page That's another problem I think, there isn't any documentation to say what colors a particular scheme used. I think the PDP8/e is amber and terra cotta, but that isn't documented

Re: DEC color standards was: Re: Banner Panels

2016-12-30 Thread COURYHOUSE
In a message dated 12/30/2016 9:31:07 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, c...@chdickman.com writes: On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 11:14 PM, william degnan wrote: > You can add the industrial/11 blue and red to your color page That's another problem I think, there isn't any documentation to say w

Re: DEC color standards was: Re: Banner Panels

2016-12-30 Thread COURYHOUSE
(with correction) I wonder if there is a PANTONE color chart assignment that DEC ever listed? That would allow you to nail it dead on. Ed# _www.SMECC.org_ (_http://www.SMECC.org_ (http://www.smecc.org/) ) In a message dated 12/30/2016 10:21:32 P.M. US Mountain Standard Tim, couryh

Re: DEC color standards was: Re: Banner Panels

2016-12-30 Thread Charles Dickman
On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 12:21 AM, wrote: > I wonder if there is a PANTONE color chat assignment that DEC > ever listed? That would allow you to nail it dead on. Of course it would, but the DEC STD 092 available is not specified in PANTONE, If a later version of the standard used PANTONE the

Re: DEC color standards was: Re: Banner Panels

2016-12-30 Thread COURYHOUSE
In a message dated 12/30/2016 10:49:07 P.M. US Mountain Standard Tim, c...@chdickman.com writes: On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 12:21 AM, wrote: > I wonder if there is a PANTONE color chat assignment that DEC > ever listed? That would allow you to nail it dead on. Of course it would, but

Re: DEC color standards was: Re: Banner Panels

2016-12-30 Thread Rod Smallwood
On 31/12/2016 04:14, william degnan wrote: You can add the industrial/11 blue and red to your color page, not an exact match to any that you have on your site, but my photos are not color consistent, you'd have to see or scan. From my eye (and I am a web designer who has to match colors for li

Re: DEC color standards was: Re: Banner Panels

2017-01-01 Thread Rod Smallwood
On 31/12/2016 03:49, Charles Dickman wrote: Rod, On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 8:04 PM, Rod Smallwood wrote: Hi Guys I have had a quick word with the girls down at the silk screen shop. A couple of years ago I tried to translate the DEC color standards to RGB based on the colors in

Re: DEC color standards was: Re: Banner Panels

2017-01-01 Thread Pete Lancashire
To convert from Muncell to RGB http://www.andrewwerth.com/color/ http://www.munsellcolourscienceforpainters.com/ConversionsBetweenMunsellAndsRGBsystems.pdf On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 7:49 PM, Charles Dickman wrote: > Rod, > > On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 8:04 PM, Rod Smallwood > wrote: >> Hi Guys >>

Re: DEC color standards was: Re: Banner Panels

2017-01-01 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jan 1, 2017, at 11:26 AM, Pete Lancashire wrote: > > To convert from Muncell to RGB > > http://www.andrewwerth.com/color/ > > http://www.munsellcolourscienceforpainters.com/ConversionsBetweenMunsellAndsRGBsystems.pdf What would also be interesting is a mapping from Muncell to Pantone, si

Re: DEC color standards was: Re: Banner Panels

2017-01-02 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Pete Lancashire > To convert from Muncell to RGB Interesting. For one colour (D.C. Blue), listed on Charles' page as Munsell 5PB 3/10, that page gives it as 'outside sRGB gamut', whereas the page you list gives it as sRGB [0,72,145]. Noel

Re: DEC color standards was: Re: Banner Panels

2017-01-02 Thread Pete Lancashire
Here is a site that you can give it RGB and it will give the closest Pantone http://rgb.to/0,72,145 On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 7:48 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > From: Pete Lancashire > > > To convert from Muncell to RGB > > Interesting. For one colour (D.C. Blue), listed on Charles' page as M

Re: DEC color standards was: Re: Banner Panels

2017-01-02 Thread Charles Dickman
On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 10:48 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > From: Pete Lancashire > > > To convert from Muncell to RGB > > Interesting. For one colour (D.C. Blue), listed on Charles' page as Munsell > 5PB 3/10, that page gives it as 'outside sRGB gamut', whereas the page you > list gives it a

Re: DEC color standards was: Re: Banner Panels

2017-01-02 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jan 2, 2017, at 11:53 AM, Pete Lancashire wrote: > > Here is a site that you can give it RGB and it will give the closest Pantone > > http://rgb.to/0,72,145 Then again, there are plenty of Pantone colors that have no RGB equivalent... paul

Re: DEC color standards was: Re: Banner Panels

2017-01-02 Thread Fred Cisin
Then again, there are plenty of Pantone colors that have no RGB equivalent... For printing banner panels, would CMYK be a better fit than sRGB? Are there no records of what DEC specified to their sub-contractors? I learned the basics half a century ago, with "Color As Seen And Photographed",

Re: DEC color standards was: Re: Banner Panels

2017-01-02 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jan 2, 2017, at 2:57 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: > >> Then again, there are plenty of Pantone colors that have no RGB equivalent... > > For printing banner panels, would CMYK be a better fit than sRGB? > Are there no records of what DEC specified to their sub-contractors? Basic printing is done

Re: DEC color standards was: Re: Banner Panels

2017-01-02 Thread Charles Dickman
On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 2:57 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: >> Then again, there are plenty of Pantone colors that have no RGB >> equivalent... > > > For printing banner panels, would CMYK be a better fit than sRGB? > Are there no records of what DEC specified to their sub-contractors? My motivation was fo

Re: DEC color standards was: Re: Banner Panels

2017-01-02 Thread Fred Cisin
On Mon, 2 Jan 2017, Charles Dickman wrote: My motivation was for no other reason than to see what the colors looked like on a web page. The page shows what DEC used and that was Munsell and/or Ostwald notation along with one Pantone and a couple paint manufacturers and colors. That is all docume