Re: Glass memory?

2022-04-07 Thread Joshua Rice via cctalk
From: "steven--- via cctech" Paul and others said What if you can't make ICs any more? Or rather, what level of IC fabrication would it be possible to construct from scratch? For semiconductors, you'd start with machinery to make ultra-pure materials (silicon, I'd assume). A Czochralski

Re: Glass memory?

2022-04-06 Thread Steve Malikoff via cctalk
Paul and others said >> What if you can't make ICs any more? Or rather, what level of IC >> fabrication would it be possible to construct from scratch? > For semiconductors, you'd start with machinery to make ultra-pure materials > (silicon, I'd assume). A Czochralski crystal growing machine to

Re: Glass memory?

2022-04-06 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Apr 2, 2022, at 6:27 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk > wrote: > > On Sat, 2 Apr 2022 at 00:34, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk > wrote: >> >> And, as you say, an Arduino or a Pi that fits in my pocket is orders >> of magnitude more powerful and costs pocket money. > > The comparisons of size,

Re: Glass memory?

2022-04-02 Thread ben via cctalk
On 2022-04-02 4:27 a.m., Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: On Sat, 2 Apr 2022 at 00:34, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: And, as you say, an Arduino or a Pi that fits in my pocket is orders of magnitude more powerful and costs pocket money. The comparisons of size, power, storage, cost, power

Re: Glass memory?

2022-04-02 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sat, 2 Apr 2022 at 00:34, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > > And, as you say, an Arduino or a Pi that fits in my pocket is orders > of magnitude more powerful and costs pocket money. The comparisons of size, power, storage, cost, power usage, heat output and so on are often made. What is

Re: Glass memory?

2022-04-01 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 4/1/22 16:17, Mike Stein via cctalk wrote: Hey, I've got one of those somewhere (the delay line, not the terminal ;-) )! I do still use the cabinet as a desk, as well as a few parts here and there; to think that today something like an Arduino nano can replace that desk-sized cabinet

Re: Glass memory?

2022-04-01 Thread Mike Stein via cctalk
Hey, I've got one of those somewhere (the delay line, not the terminal ;-) )! I do still use the cabinet as a desk, as well as a few parts here and there; to think that today something like an Arduino nano can replace that desk-sized cabinet containing a substantial power supply and a card cage

Re: Glass memory?

2022-04-01 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2022-Apr-01, at 10:52 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > On 4/1/22 10:27, Paul Koning wrote: >> >>> On Apr 1, 2022, at 1:25 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk >>> wrote: >>> >>> Wasn't some of this glass delay line memory used in early raster-scanned >>> computer video displays? >> >> I don't

Re: Glass memory?

2022-04-01 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2022-Apr-01, at 5:54 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: >> On Apr 1, 2022, at 2:56 AM, Mark Huffstutter via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> https://archive.org/details/TNM_Glass_computer_memories_-_Corning_Electronics_20171206_0185 > ... > That Corning document is also interesting because of its

Re: Glass memory?

2022-04-01 Thread -Gary via cctalk
Oregon Status University constructed a general purpose computer (Nebula) in the mid 60s that used Corning glass delay lines both to construct a 4k x 34 bit main memory with an auxillary 2k Content Addressable Memory with 32 bits plus some 'tag' bits. Al archived a copy of the hardware manual

Re: Glass memory?

2022-04-01 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 4/1/22 10:27, Paul Koning wrote: > > >> On Apr 1, 2022, at 1:25 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> Wasn't some of this glass delay line memory used in early raster-scanned >> computer video displays? > > I don't know about that one, but a delay line is a key component of a PAL >

Re: Glass memory?

2022-04-01 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Apr 1, 2022, at 1:25 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk > wrote: > > Wasn't some of this glass delay line memory used in early raster-scanned > computer video displays? I don't know about that one, but a delay line is a key component of a PAL (European) system color TV receiver. paul

Re: Glass memory?

2022-04-01 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
Wasn't some of this glass delay line memory used in early raster-scanned computer video displays? --Chuck

Re: Glass memory?

2022-04-01 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Apr 1, 2022, at 2:56 AM, Mark Huffstutter via cctalk > wrote: > > Here is some pretty good information. > > https://archive.org/details/TNM_Glass_computer_memories_-_Corning_Electronics_20171206_0185 > > Mark Interesting stuff. When I saw Corning I thought glass fiber (optical pulse

RE: Glass memory?

2022-04-01 Thread Mark Huffstutter via cctalk
opic Posts Subject: Re: Glass memory? On 2022-Mar-31, at 8:05 PM, Anders Nelson via cctech wrote: > Hey all, found this on eBay: > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/Corning-Glass-memory-/125087612899 > > I can't find any info on it - was it some kind of delay-line or magnetic > lami

Re: Glass memory?

2022-04-01 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2022-Mar-31, at 8:05 PM, Anders Nelson via cctech wrote: > Hey all, found this on eBay: > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/Corning-Glass-memory-/125087612899 > > I can't find any info on it - was it some kind of delay-line or magnetic > laminate stack? > > Interes

Re: Glass memory?

2022-04-01 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
s > Subject: Re: Glass memory? > > On 2022-Mar-31, at 8:05 PM, Anders Nelson via cctech wrote: >> Hey all, found this on eBay: >> >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Corning-Glass-memory-/125087612899 >> >> I can't find any info on it - was it some kind of delay-

RE: Glass memory?

2022-04-01 Thread Mark Huffstutter via cctalk
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Glass memory? On 2022-Mar-31, at 8:05 PM, Anders Nelson via cctech wrote: > Hey all, found this on eBay: > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/Corning-Glass-memory-/125087612899 > > I can't find any info on it - was it some kin

Re: Glass memory?

2022-04-01 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2022-Mar-31, at 8:05 PM, Anders Nelson via cctech wrote: > Hey all, found this on eBay: > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/Corning-Glass-memory-/125087612899 > > I can't find any info on it - was it some kind of delay-line or magnetic > laminate stack? > > Interest

Glass memory?

2022-04-01 Thread Anders Nelson via cctalk
Hey all, found this on eBay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Corning-Glass-memory-/125087612899 I can't find any info on it - was it some kind of delay-line or magnetic laminate stack? Interesting!