Re: How to enable USB drives in both Windows 98SE AND MS-DOS 7.1.

2018-02-12 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
urvive all disasters). And, all that you need to do, to find this information about various aspects of finding things, is to be able to guess that it is filed under: "Re: How to enable USB drives in both Windows 98SE AND MS-DOS 7.1." We don't seem to ever get around to adjus

Re: How to enable USB drives in both Windows 98SE AND MS-DOS 7.1.

2018-02-11 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Grant Taylor > I've had plenty of things that I've found and referenced over the years > that have disappeared from where I knew it was. Ah, bit rot - the scourge of the Web. Thank G-d for the Internet Archive! Although at least one major list archive had been marked to exclu

Re: How to enable USB drives in both Windows 98SE AND MS-DOS 7.1.

2018-02-11 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
Is there any thing that really needs to saved from the internet that is need for old computers and ancient knowledge regardless of IP rights. That just leaves your shadow. I'm not sure I follow what you mean. Only the shadow knows. I've had plenty of things that I've found and referenced

Re: How to enable USB drives in both Windows 98SE AND MS-DOS 7.1.

2018-02-11 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 02/11/2018 05:25 PM, ben via cctalk wrote: That just leaves your shadow. I'm not sure I follow what you mean. Is there any thing that really needs to saved from the internet that is need for old computers and ancient knowledge regardless of IP rights. I've had plenty of things that I've

Re: How to enable USB drives in both Windows 98SE AND MS-DOS 7.1.

2018-02-11 Thread ben via cctalk
On 2/11/2018 3:10 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: Also, the page that started this ("How to enable USB drives in both Windows 98SE AND MS-DOS 7.1") might well be ditched from Wikipedia, for a variety of Wiki-bureacratic reasons I won't get into here ('no original rese

Re: How to enable USB drives in both Windows 98SE AND MS-DOS 7.1.

2018-02-11 Thread Terry Stewart via cctalk
>Sure. Neither would I. But how is this relevant to the CHWiki question? >> If I had to go to that extent of writing it as a robust, referenced, >> refereed, definitive technical article, I probably wouldn't bother. If I was writing an article as a contributor for a reference wiki, I wouldn't wa

Re: How to enable USB drives in both Windows 98SE AND MS-DOS 7.1.

2018-02-11 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Terry Stewart > If I had to go to that extent of writing it as a robust, referenced, > refereed, definitive technical article, I probably wouldn't bother. Sure. Neither would I. But how is this relevant to the CHWiki question? Noel

Re: How to enable USB drives in both Windows 98SE AND MS-DOS 7.1.

2018-02-11 Thread Terry Stewart via cctalk
Given that my article started this discussion, I should add my 2 cents worth. I’ll continue to do what I’m doing rather than putting this stuff on CHWiki. Grant’s motivations and explanations for posting on his site are pretty much the same as mine. I document these things largely for myself as

Re: How to enable USB drives in both Windows 98SE AND MS-DOS 7.1.

2018-02-11 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
ctures 10% likely is more likely than 1% likely to post to Wikipedia. I have no desire to get involved in politics. I want to write things the way /I/ want to. Hence why my site is so appealing to me. - I'm free to meet (or not) the low bar. ;-) Also, the page that started this ("H

Re: How to enable USB drives in both Windows 98SE AND MS-DOS 7.1.

2018-02-11 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 02/11/2018 01:31 PM, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote: Nothing but if you're OK with the CHWiki linking to your site (or even wholesale copying articles with an attribution) that would be a start (even if it's someone other than you doing it). I would like other sites to link to my site. I

Re: How to enable USB drives in both Windows 98SE AND MS-DOS 7.1.

2018-02-11 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
be more likely to publish things on (what I consider to be) an even > bigger and more well known Wiki, namely Wikipedia. Be my guest! :-) I've been there, done that, and moved on, because I got tired of stupidity like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:History_of_the_Internet/Ar

Re: How to enable USB drives in both Windows 98SE AND MS-DOS 7.1.

2018-02-11 Thread Antonio Carlini via cctalk
On 11/02/18 19:14, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: So what compels me to put content on someone else's site and not my site? Nothing but if you're OK with the CHWiki linking to your site (or even wholesale copying articles with an attribution) that would be a start (even if it's someone oth

Re: How to enable USB drives in both Windows 98SE AND MS-DOS 7.1.

2018-02-11 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 02/11/2018 12:14 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: As you pointed out and commented about the links you provided, they are online somewhere other than the CHWiki. I also see a LOT of content that could go on CHWiki, et al, that pass through mailing lists and newsgroups. Both of which are

Re: How to enable USB drives in both Windows 98SE AND MS-DOS 7.1.

2018-02-11 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 02/10/2018 07:45 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: Right, but my question is 'why are you writing them?' Is it just because you enjoy writing, or do you do it in an attempt to convey information to others? (Or perhaps some motivation I haven't guessed?) Because I want to? Because I want t

Re: How to enable USB drives in both Windows 98SE AND MS-DOS 7.1.

2018-02-11 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 02/11/2018 05:47 AM, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote: > How do you go about testing them? Do you just use a device that is known > to require (say) 2A and check that it runs happily or have you rigged up > something to draw 2A and then check that you don't see a voltage drop > (and/or smell/se

Re: How to enable USB drives in both Windows 98SE AND MS-DOS 7.1.

2018-02-11 Thread Antonio Carlini via cctalk
On 11/02/18 00:28, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: Dredging up an old thread, I'd like to report that I found some decent mini B-to-USB A cables from Monoprice.com. They're advertised as 28/24 AWG 3 ft. long. They ran $1.13 each and look to be fit for use. --Chuck How do you go about testing t

Re: How to enable USB drives in both Windows 98SE AND MS-DOS 7.1.

2018-02-10 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
Dredging up an old thread, I'd like to report that I found some decent mini B-to-USB A cables from Monoprice.com. They're advertised as 28/24 AWG 3 ft. long. They ran $1.13 each and look to be fit for use. --Chuck

Re: How to enable USB drives in both Windows 98SE AND MS-DOS 7.1.

2018-02-10 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Grant Taylor cctalk at gtaylor.tnetconsulting.net > Sorry if this comes across wrong. ... I'm replying in an attempt to > provide a counter point for a discussion of reality. So please don't > take this as an attack on you, or your laudable appeal. No problem! > When

Re: How to enable USB drives in both Windows 98SE AND MS-DOS 7.1.

2018-02-09 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
Sorry if this comes across wrong. I think I'm fighting a meat space bug. As such my filters are a little less functional than normal. On 02/09/2018 12:00 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: Hi, can I appeal to you (and everyone else who writes up these kinds of notes) to put this stuff on the

Re: How to enable USB drives in both Windows 98SE AND MS-DOS 7.1.

2018-02-09 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Terry Stewart > http://www.classic-computers.org.nz/blog/2018-02-05-USB-in-MS-DOS-and-Win98.htm > Hopefully the article will be useful to others who might want to do > this. Hi, can I appeal to you (and everyone else who writes up these kinds of notes) to put this stuff

Re: How to enable USB drives in both Windows 98SE AND MS-DOS 7.1.

2018-02-08 Thread Ken Seefried via cctalk
From: Curious Marc > > On Windows 7, using regedit, set > > ?HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa\LMCompatibilityLevel? > to ?1? >You might need to create the new entry under \lsa as a REG_DWORD, set > to 1 > As your friendly neighbourhood infosec type, please

Re: How to enable USB drives in both Windows 98SE AND MS-DOS 7.1.

2018-02-08 Thread Curious Marc via cctalk
> As to ExittoDOS.pif, this doesn't seem to exist on a Windows 98SE install. If I remember well, the ExitToDOS file gets created automatically the first time you exit to DOS manually from Win98. I use it all the time to go back and forth from the DOS environment to the GUI (go back to GUI typin

Re: How to enable USB drives in both Windows 98SE AND MS-DOS 7.1.

2018-02-08 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 02/07/2018 11:27 PM, Curious Marc via cctalk wrote: Here you go: Networking between Win98 and Win7 On Windows 7, using regedit, set “HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa\LMCompatibilityLevel” to “1” You might need to create the new entry under \lsa as a REG_DWORD, set t

Re: How to enable USB drives in both Windows 98SE AND MS-DOS 7.1.

2018-02-08 Thread Terry Stewart via cctalk
>That link mentions ExittoDOS.pif, and searches for it turn up related information about dosstart.bat. >I'd suggest digging around for them and some web searches. Hmm..interesting. >From a brief search and a test it seems using these files (or at least ones similar to those described) may have a

Re: How to enable USB drives in both Windows 98SE AND MS-DOS 7.1.

2018-02-08 Thread Terry Stewart via cctalk
>I recall using these drivers several years ago. >As I recall, the problem is that they're not amenable to hot-swapping. >That is, is you're using a USB flash drive with them, there was no code >that allowed you to remove the drive and substitute another without >rebooting. >Has this situation ch

Re: How to enable USB drives in both Windows 98SE AND MS-DOS 7.1.

2018-02-07 Thread Curious Marc via cctalk
Here you go: Networking between Win98 and Win7 On Windows 7, using regedit, set “HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa\LMCompatibilityLevel” to “1” You might need to create the new entry under \lsa as a REG_DWORD, set to 1 On the Win98 machine: Y

Re: How to enable USB drives in both Windows 98SE AND MS-DOS 7.1.

2018-02-07 Thread Mike Stein via cctalk
#x27;s content. Excellent writeup; thanks, Tez! m - Original Message - From: "Terry Stewart via cctalk" To: "Grant Taylor" ; "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 11:14 PM Subject: Re: How to enable USB dri

Re: How to enable USB drives in both Windows 98SE AND MS-DOS 7.1.

2018-02-07 Thread Mike Stein via cctalk
Having trouble with that link; any tips? m - Original Message - From: "Grant Taylor via cctalk" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 11:58 PM Subject: Re: How to enable USB drives in both Windows 98SE AND MS-DOS 7.1. > On 02/07/2018 09:53 PM, Grant Taylor via

Re: How to enable USB drives in both Windows 98SE AND MS-DOS 7.1.

2018-02-07 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 02/07/2018 09:53 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: According to the following link from IBM, the process we are both thinking of is valid, just using different files. http://ps-2.kev009.com/pcpartnerinfo/ctstips/c546.htm That link mentions ExittoDOS.pif, and searches for it turn up relate

Re: How to enable USB drives in both Windows 98SE AND MS-DOS 7.1.

2018-02-07 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 02/07/2018 09:14 PM, Terry Stewart wrote: Yes, the files you speak of are config.dos and autoexec.dos.  These confused me at first because I thought just as you did. I put the driver files in there. However, those files seem to be associated with the PREVIOUS MS-DOS version (if one exists) p

Re: How to enable USB drives in both Windows 98SE AND MS-DOS 7.1.

2018-02-07 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
I recall using these drivers several years ago. As I recall, the problem is that they're not amenable to hot-swapping. That is, is you're using a USB flash drive with them, there was no code that allowed you to remove the drive and substitute another without rebooting. Has this situation changed?

Re: How to enable USB drives in both Windows 98SE AND MS-DOS 7.1.

2018-02-07 Thread Terry Stewart via cctalk
>I thought there were alternate config.sys and autoexec.bat files that were used if you chose to reboot to MS-DOS mode, and possibly if you hit F8 and chose command line during boot. Yes, the files you speak of are config.dos and autoexec.dos. These confused me at first because I thought just as

Re: How to enable USB drives in both Windows 98SE AND MS-DOS 7.1.

2018-02-07 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 02/06/2018 12:58 PM, Terry Stewart via cctalk wrote: The title might suggest to topic is not vintage, but the reason I did this myself was to facilitate classic computer disk imaging. I'd think that something from ~20 years ago is indeed vintage. (It's closer to the 25 year old requirement

Re: How to enable USB drives in both Windows 98SE AND MS-DOS 7.1.

2018-02-07 Thread Terry Stewart via cctalk
On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 9:28 AM, Curious Marc wrote: > Thanks Terry, I need to get my DOS7.1/Win98 Dolch to speak USB, that will > be helpful, particularly the DOS portion. I got my Win98 networked to Win7, > it's not that hard *once you know* and works really well. You have to > change one entry

Re: How to enable USB drives in both Windows 98SE AND MS-DOS 7.1.

2018-02-07 Thread Curious Marc via cctalk
Thanks Terry, I need to get my DOS7.1/Win98 Dolch to speak USB, that will be helpful, particularly the DOS portion. I got my Win98 networked to Win7, it's not that hard *once you know* and works really well. You have to change one entry in the Win7 registry and add one package from the unofficia

How to enable USB drives in both Windows 98SE AND MS-DOS 7.1.

2018-02-06 Thread Terry Stewart via cctalk
The title might suggest to topic is not vintage, but the reason I did this myself was to facilitate classic computer disk imaging. I’ve recently given USB drive capability to the MS-DOS 7.1 environment in a Windows 98SE computer I use for the purpose above. It was a bit of work configuring the mac