I recently won an IBM z890 via auction for $237.
It was a very interesting adventure to retrieve this machine since it
weighs 1500LBS on a good day, and well myself only clocking in around
115LBS I needed the help of a few friends and family to get this thing
into the basement...
I stripped
On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Connor Krukosky
wrote:
> I recently won an IBM z890 via auction for $237.
Congratulations! Mainframes are fun!
> It was a very interesting adventure to retrieve this machine since it weighs
> 1500LBS on a good day, and well myself only clocking in around
Excellent! Another person with an IBM Mainframe!
TTFN - Guy
TTFN - Guy
On 11/2/15 7:03 PM, Connor Krukosky wrote:
I recently won an IBM z890 via auction for $237.
It was a very interesting adventure to retrieve this machine since it
weighs 1500LBS on a good day, and well myself only
> On Nov 2, 2015, at 10:03 PM, Connor Krukosky
> wrote:
>
> I recently won an IBM z890 via auction for $237.
>
> Its already in the basement and most of the way back together, just running
> the wiring internally for it then I need to wire up a 240v 30a outlet once we
On 11/2/2015 10:34 PM, Peter Cetinski wrote:
So you bought a new electric furnace for the house, huh? :)
Quite literally yes I did, because the basement and first floor does not
have HVAC yet!
Only the second and third floors do!
On 11/2/2015 10:15 PM, Mike Ross wrote:
Congratulations! Main
>>
>> Congratulations! Mainframes are fun!
>
> Thanks and yes they are :)
>
>> One does not boot a mainframe; one IPLs it. :)
>
> I totally knew this but somehow forgot such terminology while writing
this email. *facepalm*
>
>> I can't advise you as to the other boxes. From my Linux experience on
m
I am so jealous.
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 11:48 PM, william degnan
wrote:
> >>
> >> Congratulations! Mainframes are fun!
> >
> > Thanks and yes they are :)
> >
> >> One does not boot a mainframe; one IPLs it. :)
> >
> > I totally knew this but somehow forgot such terminology while writing
> this e
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From: "Connor Krukosky"
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: IBM z890
On 11/2/2015 10:34 PM, Peter Cetinski wrote:
So you bought a new electric furnace for the h
On 11/2/2015 9:15 PM, Mike Ross wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Connor Krukosky
> wrote:
>> I recently won an IBM z890 via auction for $237.
>
> Congratulations! Mainframes are fun!
>
>> It was a very interesting adventure to retrieve this machine since it
On 11/2/2015 11:22 PM, Gary Sparkes wrote:
> I am so jealous.
>
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 11:48 PM, william degnan
> wrote:
>
Congratulations! Mainframes are fun!
>>>
>>> Thanks and yes they are :)
>>>
My XT/370 card set and P/390 card are even jealous. ;)
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of william
> degnan
> Sent: 03 November 2015 04:49
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
>
> Subject: Re: IBM z890
>
> >>
> >> Congratulatio
On 11/3/2015 3:14 PM, Dave Wade wrote:
-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of william
degnan
Sent: 03 November 2015 04:49
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: IBM z890
Congratulations! Mainframes are fun
> So now we know what can and can't IPL over which interfaces, now its a
> matter of finding which devices support what.
> I think the IBM TotalStorage series of disk arrays support FC, at-least
> DS4000 and up, DS3000 may but I am not sure.
> I have found some DS4000 chassis up which are somew
Mike Ross
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 7:15 PM
> One does not boot a mainframe; one IPLs it. :)
Only if said mainframe is from a company with HQ in Armonk, NY. ;->
You know, the same company that does not have dis[kc]s, but DASD.
> On Nov 3, 2015, at 1:26 PM, Rich Alderson
> wrote:
>
> Mike Ross
> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 7:15 PM
>
>> One does not boot a mainframe; one IPLs it. :)
>
> Only if said mainframe is from a company with HQ in Armonk, NY. ;->
>
> You know, the same company that does not have dis[kc]s
On 11/03/2015 10:26 AM, Rich Alderson wrote:
Mike Ross Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 7:15 PM
One does not boot a mainframe; one IPLs it. :)
Only if said mainframe is from a company with HQ in Armonk, NY. ;->
Yup, I was used to "deadstarting" systems.
--Chuck
> From: Rich Alderson
> You know, the same company that does not have dis[kc]s, but DASD.
Some guy from IBM came to MIT to give a talk about some database system that
they had, and he kept referring to 'DASD'. Puzzled looks. Finally some brave
soul stuck up his hand, and asked was a DASD
On 11/03/2015 11:56 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote:
From: Rich Alderson
You know, the same company that does not have dis[kc]s, but DASD.
Some guy from IBM came to MIT to give a talk about some database
system that they had, and he kept referring to 'DASD'. Puzzled looks.
Finally some brave soul stu
On Tue, Nov 03, 2015 at 01:37:27PM -0800, Chuck Guzis wrote:
>
> RMS = "Rotating Mass Storage" = CDC term.
That so explains this picture:
https://stallman.org/RMS_13_bendicindo.jpg
:-D
/P
On 11/03/2015 11:25 PM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote:
On Tue, Nov 03, 2015 at 01:37:27PM -0800, Chuck Guzis wrote:
RMS = "Rotating Mass Storage" = CDC term.
That so explains this picture:
https://stallman.org/RMS_13_bendicindo.jpg
:-D
Cool. How about "label" versus VTOC versus "folder" versus
On Tue, 3 Nov 2015, Chuck Guzis wrote:
Cool. How about "label" versus VTOC versus "folder" versus "directory"
versus "FNT"...versus...?
So many names...
Was it considered "copyright infringement" to use the same terminology as
somebody else? Like "standards" everybody had a unique one of
> On Nov 4, 2015, at 11:42 AM, Fred Cisin wrote:
>
> On Tue, 3 Nov 2015, Chuck Guzis wrote:
>> Cool. How about "label" versus VTOC versus "folder" versus "directory"
>> versus "FNT"...versus...?
>> So many names...
>
> Was it considered "copyright infringement" to use the same terminology as
Cool. How about "label" versus VTOC versus "folder" versus "directory" versus
"FNT"...versus...?
So many names...
Was it considered "copyright infringement" to use the same terminology as
somebody else?
On Wed, 4 Nov 2015, Paul Koning wrote:
No, it could not be. It could be trademark infr
On Wed, 4 Nov 2015, Fred Cisin wrote:
"Hmmm. What else could we call the keyboard?"
FADID. Where do I send the consulting bill?
g.
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On 11/04/2015 08:42 AM, Fred Cisin wrote:
Was it considered "copyright infringement" to use the same
terminology as somebody else? Like "standards" everybody had a
unique one of their own.
I don't think so; they're just terms of art. But didn't/doesn't Intel
claim copyright on their opcod
On Wed, 4 Nov 2015, Fred Cisin wrote:
"Hmmm. What else could we call the keyboard?"
On Wed, 4 Nov 2015, geneb wrote:
FADID. Where do I send the consulting bill?
I'm not familiar with that one.
It just might be unique enough to keep anybody from confusing our fadids
from somebody else's ke
On Wed, 4 Nov 2015, Fred Cisin wrote:
On Wed, 4 Nov 2015, Fred Cisin wrote:
"Hmmm. What else could we call the keyboard?"
On Wed, 4 Nov 2015, geneb wrote:
FADID. Where do I send the consulting bill?
I'm not familiar with that one.
It just might be unique enough to keep anybody from confu
On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 9:24 AM, geneb wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Nov 2015, Fred Cisin wrote:
>
> On Wed, 4 Nov 2015, Fred Cisin wrote:
>>>
"Hmmm. What else could we call the keyboard?"
>>>
>> On Wed, 4 Nov 2015, geneb wrote:
>>
>>> FADID. Where do I send the consulting bill?
>>>
>>
>> I'm not
On 11/04/2015 10:42 AM, Fred Cisin wrote:
On Tue, 3 Nov 2015, Chuck Guzis wrote:
Cool. How about "label" versus VTOC versus "folder"
versus "directory" versus "FNT"...versus...?
So many names...
Was it considered "copyright infringement" to use the same
terminology as somebody else? Like
On Wed, 4 Nov 2015, Charles Anthony wrote:
On Wed, 4 Nov 2015, geneb wrote:
FADID. Where do I send the consulting bill?
I'm not familiar with that one.
It just might be unique enough to keep anybody from confusing our fadids
from somebody else's keyboards
Finger Accessible Data Input De
On 2015-11-04 1:37 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
On 11/04/2015 10:42 AM, Fred Cisin wrote:
On Tue, 3 Nov 2015, Chuck Guzis wrote:
Cool. How about "label" versus VTOC versus "folder" versus
"directory" versus "FNT"...versus...?
So many names...
Was it considered "copyright infringement" to use the s
On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Jon Elson wrote:
> On 11/04/2015 10:42 AM, Fred Cisin wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 3 Nov 2015, Chuck Guzis wrote:
>>>
>>> Cool. How about "label" versus VTOC versus "folder" versus "directory"
>>> versus "FNT"...versus...?
>>> So many names...
>>
>>
>> Was it considered "
On 11/04/2015 09:49 AM, Paul Berger wrote:
ROS (Read Only Memory)
Same for CDC.
Given the weird and wonderful storage devices that were developed in
earlier days, calling a random-access (although it could be posited that
tape can be random access) storage device a "disk" is just wrong in m
On Wednesday (11/04/2015 at 09:05AM -0800), Fred Cisin wrote:
>
> My comment was not a serious question about the LAW. It was about
> the idiocy of creating a new set of names for parts that were the
> same, by each manufacturer. And speculating that maybe they were so
> idiotic that THEY consid
Come one come all!
Its the day of reckoning.
I finally have some storage on loan from a company called Funsoft!
Hopefully by the end of the night I will have Linux installed and a
portal to the internet to which people can connect and play on it!
http://www.twitch.tv/conmega
-Connor Krukosky
On 01/31/2016 06:05 PM, Connor Krukosky via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Come one come all!
Its the day of reckoning.
I finally have some storage on loan from a company called Funsoft!
Hopefully by the end of the night I will have Linux installed and a portal to
the internet
to which people can connec
On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 3:50 AM, Neil Cherry wrote:
> On 01/31/2016 06:05 PM, Connor Krukosky via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
>>
>> Come one come all!
>> Its the day of reckoning.
>> I finally have some storage on loan from a company called Funsoft!
>> Hopefully by the end of the night I will have Linux
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