Re: Imaging and Emulating Rainbow

2016-08-15 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 08/15/2016 11:09 AM, Stephen Kitt wrote: > On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 11:45:23 -0600, Warner Losh > wrote: [...] >> There was a raindrive.sys, iirc, that did this well enough for DOS >> to access the files, but I can't find any copies of it now. > > The SimtelNet CDs had a RainDOS

Re: Imaging and Emulating Rainbow

2016-08-15 Thread Stephen Kitt
On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 11:45:23 -0600, Warner Losh wrote: [...] > There was a raindrive.sys, iirc, that did this well enough for DOS to > access the files, but I can't find any copies of it now. The SimtelNet CDs had a RainDOS driver written by Sydex; the last version I can find is

Re: Imaging and Emulating Rainbow

2016-08-15 Thread Lawrence Wilkinson
] On Behalf Of Steve Bez Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 9:13 AM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk@classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Imaging and Emulating Rainbow Don't know if would possibly work n those as isn't bviosly NT,but there's a disk for pound fifty eBay.uk open

RE: Imaging and Emulating Rainbow

2016-08-15 Thread Jay West
alk@classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Imaging and Emulating Rainbow Don't know if would possibly work n those as isn't bviosly NT,but there's a disk for pound fifty eBay.uk open V box?!! On Monday, August 15, 2016, jim stephens <jwsm...@jwsss.com> wrote: > I downloaded the site and the

Re: Imaging and Emulating Rainbow

2016-08-15 Thread Steve Bez
Don't know if would possibly work n those as isn't bviosly NT,but there's a disk for pound fifty eBay.uk open V box?!! On Monday, August 15, 2016, jim stephens wrote: > I downloaded the site and the zip file today (in the last 6 hours or so, > Sunday PDT US time, I saw your

Re: Imaging and Emulating Rainbow

2016-08-14 Thread jim stephens
I downloaded the site and the zip file today (in the last 6 hours or so, Sunday PDT US time, I saw your don't mirror warning after i'd taken a lot, so continued. many thanks for the stuff there. I had some things from the profolder, but not the floppy images. thanks jim On 8/14/2016 3:17

Re: Imaging and Emulating Rainbow

2016-08-14 Thread Karl-Wilhelm Wacker
14, 2016 6:03 PM Subject: Re: Imaging and Emulating Rainbow On 08/14/2016 10:59 AM, Al Kossow wrote: If it's running MS-DOS, you should be able to find/write something to do a raw image dump out the serial port. That reminds me, I need to image some Rainbow floppies I have. I would th

RE: Imaging and Emulating Rainbow

2016-08-14 Thread Rob Jarratt
> > I noticed you have a Pro folder as well, any chance you could zip that too? > > > > Regards > > > > Rob > > > > > I zipped all so you have it . > Ah, I hadn't actually opened it to look inside and thought it was just the Rainbow folder. Thank you very much! Regards Rob

Re: Imaging and Emulating Rainbow

2016-08-14 Thread Jules Richardson
On 08/14/2016 10:59 AM, Al Kossow wrote: If it's running MS-DOS, you should be able to find/write something to do a raw image dump out the serial port. That reminds me, I need to image some Rainbow floppies I have. I would think someone would have already written this in the MS-DOS world.

Re: Imaging and Emulating Rainbow

2016-08-14 Thread fritz_chwo...@web.de
Am 14.08.2016 um 21:07 schrieb Rob Jarratt: -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of fritz_chwo...@web.de Sent: 14 August 2016 19:14 To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Imaging and Emulating Rainbow Am 14.08.2016 um 19:38 schrieb Rob Jarratt

RE: Imaging and Emulating Rainbow

2016-08-14 Thread Rob Jarratt
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of > fritz_chwo...@web.de > Sent: 14 August 2016 19:14 > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Imaging and Emulating Rainbow > > Am 14.08.2016 um 19:38 schrieb Rob Jarratt:

Re: Imaging and Emulating Rainbow

2016-08-14 Thread fritz_chwo...@web.de
Am 14.08.2016 um 19:38 schrieb Rob Jarratt: Thanks for that link with the files, that looks really useful. Is there a zip of the whole lot anywhere or an FTP site, to make it easier to download? Regards Rob Hope it works...

Re: Imaging and Emulating Rainbow

2016-08-14 Thread fritz_chwo...@web.de
August 2016 17:27 To: r...@jarratt.me.uk; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk@classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Imaging and Emulating Rainbow Am 14.08.2016 um 12:55 schrieb Rob Jarratt: I have a Rainbow 100+ with a working hard disk. I want to image the disk before it

Re: Imaging and Emulating Rainbow

2016-08-14 Thread Warner Losh
I've read Rainbow disks with both Linux and FreeBSD's floppy drivers. However, the track layout is 'weird' and I never hacked together anything to cope so that mount and friends would be able to read the disks. There was a raindrive.sys, iirc, that did this well enough for DOS to access the

Re: Imaging and Emulating Rainbow

2016-08-14 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 08/14/2016 08:59 AM, Al Kossow wrote: > If it's running MS-DOS, you should be able to find/write something to > do a raw image dump out the serial port. > > That reminds me, I need to image some Rainbow floppies I have. > > I would think someone would have already written this in the MS-DOS >

Re: Imaging and Emulating Rainbow

2016-08-14 Thread Warner Losh
On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 11:35 AM, Rob Jarratt wrote: > > >> > Oh dear. VMS would not let me MOUNT/FOREIGN, it said: >> > >> > %MOUNT-F-FORMAT, invalid media format >> > >> > So I couldn't mount it to do the BACKUP/PHYSICAL. >> > >> > What options do I have to

RE: Imaging and Emulating Rainbow

2016-08-14 Thread Rob Jarratt
Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk@classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Imaging and Emulating Rainbow Am 14.08.2016 um 12:55 schrieb Rob Jarratt: I have a Rainbow 100+ with a working hard disk. I want to image the disk before it fails and then emulate the Rainbow. The disk is a

RE: Imaging and Emulating Rainbow

2016-08-14 Thread Rob Jarratt
> > Oh dear. VMS would not let me MOUNT/FOREIGN, it said: > > > > %MOUNT-F-FORMAT, invalid media format > > > > So I couldn't mount it to do the BACKUP/PHYSICAL. > > > > What options do I have to image this disk? > > > > > > It appears that the format used by the Rainbow disk controller is

Re: Imaging and Emulating Rainbow

2016-08-14 Thread fritz_chwo...@web.de
Am 14.08.2016 um 12:55 schrieb Rob Jarratt: I have a Rainbow 100+ with a working hard disk. I want to image the disk before it fails and then emulate the Rainbow. The disk is an RD51 and appears to have 4 partitions on it. Regards Rob I can't help but you make me remembering some files

Re: Imaging and Emulating Rainbow

2016-08-14 Thread Al Kossow
If it's running MS-DOS, you should be able to find/write something to do a raw image dump out the serial port. That reminds me, I need to image some Rainbow floppies I have. I would think someone would have already written this in the MS-DOS world. On 8/14/16 8:54 AM, Al Kossow wrote: > > >

Re: Imaging and Emulating Rainbow

2016-08-14 Thread Al Kossow
On 8/14/16 3:55 AM, Rob Jarratt wrote: > I have a Rainbow 100+ with a working hard disk. I want to image the disk > before it fails and then emulate the Rainbow. The disk is an RD51 and > appears to have 4 partitions on it. > MAME supports it. It was a bear to get working correctly.

RE: Imaging and Emulating Rainbow

2016-08-14 Thread Rob Jarratt
> -Original Message- > From: Dave Wade [mailto:dave.g4...@gmail.com] > Sent: 14 August 2016 13:42 > To: r...@jarratt.me.uk; 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' > <cctalk@classiccmp.org> > Subject: RE: Imaging and Emulating Rainbow &

RE: Imaging and Emulating Rainbow

2016-08-14 Thread Peter Coghlan
> > > > > Linux, using dd? > > > > This did cross my mind. I suppose I am not sure how to get Linux onto the > machine. With VMS I know I can netboot, I don't have enough Unix knowledge > to netboot a MicroVAX II. I will try to research how to do it, but if anyone > has any nice pointers that

RE: Imaging and Emulating Rainbow

2016-08-14 Thread Peter Coghlan
> > > > > For imaging my first thought is to put the disk into a MicroVAX II, net > > boot the > > MicroVAX into VMS and do a BACKUP/PHYSICAL, copying the image to a > > SIMH tap file. There shouldn't be any issues with this I assume? > > > > Oh dear. VMS would not let me MOUNT/FOREIGN, it

RE: Imaging and Emulating Rainbow

2016-08-14 Thread Rob Jarratt
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Alexandre > Souza > Sent: 14 August 2016 13:40 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > <cctalk@classiccmp.org>; r...@jarratt.me.uk > Subject: RE: Im

RE: Imaging and Emulating Rainbow

2016-08-14 Thread Dave Wade
13:23 > To: r...@jarratt.me.uk; 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' > <cctalk@classiccmp.org> > Subject: RE: Imaging and Emulating Rainbow > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behal

RE: Imaging and Emulating Rainbow

2016-08-14 Thread Alexandre Souza
ugust 2016 11:55 > > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > <cctalk@classiccmp.org> > > Subject: Imaging and Emulating Rainbow > > > > I have a Rainbow 100+ with a working hard disk. I want to image the disk > > before it fails a

RE: Imaging and Emulating Rainbow

2016-08-14 Thread Rob Jarratt
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Rob Jarratt > Sent: 14 August 2016 11:55 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > <cctalk@classiccmp.org> > Subject: Imaging and Emulating Rainbow &

Re: Imaging and Emulating Rainbow

2016-08-14 Thread Peter Coghlan
> > I have a Rainbow 100+ with a working hard disk. I want to image the disk > before it fails and then emulate the Rainbow. The disk is an RD51 and > appears to have 4 partitions on it. > > For imaging my first thought is to put the disk into a MicroVAX II, net boot > the MicroVAX into VMS and do

Imaging and Emulating Rainbow

2016-08-14 Thread Rob Jarratt
I have a Rainbow 100+ with a working hard disk. I want to image the disk before it fails and then emulate the Rainbow. The disk is an RD51 and appears to have 4 partitions on it. For imaging my first thought is to put the disk into a MicroVAX II, net boot the MicroVAX into VMS and do a