Re: KDF 8189 processor board foobared (ebay warning)

2017-05-23 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Jim Stephens > The fellow responded and as I had suspected had never seen anything > this old before and had thought that the parts were separable. > ... > Also he is going to hopefully share photos of the entire pile and I'll > try to help him market the parts in t

Re: KDF 8189 processor board foobared (ebay warning)

2017-05-22 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Sun, May 21, 2017 at 6:11 PM, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: >> KDJ11-D (M7554) aka PDP-11/53 "All you need to add is a hard drive >> controller." >> >> See: http://home.windstream.net/engdahl/kdj11.htm > > Yeah, a DECserver 500 or 550 version of an M7554 is usually the least > expensive versio

Re: KDF 8189 processor board foobared (ebay warning)

2017-05-21 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
On Sun, May 21, 2017 at 6:08 AM, Paul Birkel via cctech wrote: > >> Are there any reasonably priced boards with the processor and memory >> of either the KDF or KDJ processors? > > KDJ11-D (M7554) aka PDP-11/53 "All you need to add is a hard drive > controller." > > See: http://home.windstream.n

Re: KDF 8189 processor board foobared (ebay warning)

2017-05-21 Thread allison via cctalk
On 05/21/2017 01:02 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > On 5/21/17 8:51 AM, Rob Doyle via cctalk wrote: > >> How 'bout a brand new J11-based board for oldie S-100 systems? > Reinventing incompatible I/O for existing operating systems. > > Maybe if they wrote a new unencumbered OS, but I'm not holdi

Re: KDF 8189 processor board foobared (ebay warning)

2017-05-21 Thread allison via cctalk
On 05/21/2017 11:51 AM, Rob Doyle via cctalk wrote: > On 5/20/2017 7:01 AM, allison via cctalk wrote: >> Best chip for hacking and useful off a board (Falcon, KXT11, RQDX, >> others) is the T11. Its easily > useful like a 8085 or Z80. > > How 'bout a brand new J11-based board for oldie S-100 syste

Re: KDF 8189 processor board foobared (ebay warning)

2017-05-21 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 5/21/17 8:51 AM, Rob Doyle via cctalk wrote: > How 'bout a brand new J11-based board for oldie S-100 systems? Reinventing incompatible I/O for existing operating systems. Maybe if they wrote a new unencumbered OS, but I'm not holding my breath. I don't get why they abandoned their original

Re: KDF 8189 processor board foobared (ebay warning)

2017-05-21 Thread Rob Doyle via cctalk
On 5/20/2017 7:01 AM, allison via cctalk wrote: Best chip for hacking and useful off a board (Falcon, KXT11, RQDX, others) is the T11. Its easily > useful like a 8085 or Z80. How 'bout a brand new J11-based board for oldie S-100 systems?

RE: KDF 8189 processor board foobared (ebay warning)

2017-05-21 Thread Paul Birkel via cctalk
-Original Message- From: cctech [mailto:cctech-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of allison via cctech Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 8:38 AM To: cct...@classiccmp.org Subject: Re: KDF 8189 processor board foobared (ebay warning) On 05/20/2017 06:40 PM, jim stephens via cctech wrote

Re: KDF 8189 processor board foobared (ebay warning)

2017-05-21 Thread allison via cctalk
On 05/20/2017 06:40 PM, jim stephens via cctech wrote: > > > On 5/20/2017 3:20 PM, Paul Anderson wrote: >> Hi Jim, >> >> I have the M8189 11/23+ boards here. call me tonight if you want. >> >> Paul >> > Are there any reasonably priced boards with the processor and memory > of either the KDF or KDJ

Re: KDF 8189 processor board foobared (ebay warning)

2017-05-21 Thread allison via cctalk
On 05/21/2017 02:10 AM, Tony Duell via cctalk wrote: > On Sun, May 21, 2017 at 3:08 AM, allison via cctalk > wrote: > >> The only boards with T11 I have are RQDX1/2/3. However I have a few >> T11s that were ES parts from > As an aside, there's a T11 in the VT240 terminal. I am certainly not > su

RE: KDF 8189 processor board foobared (ebay warning)

2017-05-21 Thread Henk Gooijen via cctalk
Van: jim stephens via cctalk<mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org> Verzonden: zaterdag 20 mei 2017 23:59 Aan: allison<mailto:allisonporta...@gmail.com>; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts<mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org> Onderwerp: Re: KDF 8189 processor board foobared (e

Re: KDF 8189 processor board foobared (ebay warning)

2017-05-20 Thread Tony Duell via cctalk
On Sun, May 21, 2017 at 3:08 AM, allison via cctalk wrote: > The only boards with T11 I have are RQDX1/2/3. However I have a few > T11s that were ES parts from As an aside, there's a T11 in the VT240 terminal. I am certainly not suggesting raiding such a terminal for the T11 chip though. I alw

Re: KDF 8189 processor board foobared (ebay warning)

2017-05-20 Thread allison via cctalk
On 05/20/2017 05:56 PM, jim stephens wrote: > > > On 5/20/2017 7:01 AM, allison via cctalk wrote: >> Argh, CPU chips used on dec board loose value as the complete board >> carries the value. >> >> KDF with the second chip is useful but the logic needed to may a "CPU" >> of the raw chips is not tri

Re: KDF 8189 processor board foobared (ebay warning)

2017-05-20 Thread Paul Anderson via cctalk
I don't remember the board numbers that came with the memory. If you have specific boards I'll try to check tonight. I seem to remember some lose J-11 chips somewhere- I'll try to find them. Thanks, Paul On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 5:40 PM, jim stephens via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: >

Re: KDF 8189 processor board foobared (ebay warning)

2017-05-20 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
On 5/20/2017 3:20 PM, Paul Anderson wrote: Hi Jim, I have the M8189 11/23+ boards here. call me tonight if you want. Paul Are there any reasonably priced boards with the processor and memory of either the KDF or KDJ processors? The ones I've seen recently are astronomically priced. Would

Re: KDF 8189 processor board foobared (ebay warning)

2017-05-20 Thread Paul Anderson via cctalk
Hi Jim, I have the M8189 11/23+ boards here. call me tonight if you want. Paul On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 4:59 PM, jim stephens via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > On 5/20/2017 6:12 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > >> > From: Jim Stephens >> >> > I just ran across a sale

Re: KDF 8189 processor board foobared (ebay warning)

2017-05-20 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
On 5/20/2017 6:12 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > From: Jim Stephens > I just ran across a sale on epay by a guy who thought you could pull > the processor chip off the board and sell each in separate auctions. There are a lot of idiotz out there. Turned out he had never e

Re: KDF 8189 processor board foobared (ebay warning)

2017-05-20 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
On 5/20/2017 7:01 AM, allison via cctalk wrote: Argh, CPU chips used on dec board loose value as the complete board carries the value. KDF with the second chip is useful but the logic needed to may a "CPU" of the raw chips is not trivial. That was what I figured. Hopefully the lister will pu

Re: KDF 8189 processor board foobared (ebay warning)

2017-05-20 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
On 5/20/2017 7:49 AM, Mike Stein via cctalk wrote: - Original Message - From: "Noel Chiappa via cctalk" To: Cc: Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 9:12 AM Subject: Re: KDF 8189 processor board foobared (ebay warning) > From: Jim Stephens > I just ran across a s

Re: KDF 8189 processor board foobared (ebay warning)

2017-05-20 Thread allison via cctalk
On 05/20/2017 04:59 AM, jim stephens via cctalk wrote: > I just ran across a sale on epay by a guy who thought you could pull > the processor chip off the board and sell each in separate auctions. > > I couldn't find the processor from the huge number of gold scrap chip > auctions he had, but he sa

Re: KDF 8189 processor board foobared (ebay warning)

2017-05-20 Thread Mike Stein via cctalk
- Original Message - From: "Noel Chiappa via cctalk" To: Cc: Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 9:12 AM Subject: Re: KDF 8189 processor board foobared (ebay warning) >> From: Jim Stephens > >> I just ran across a sale on epay by a guy who thought

Re: KDF 8189 processor board foobared (ebay warning)

2017-05-20 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Jim Stephens > I just ran across a sale on epay by a guy who thought you could pull > the processor chip off the board and sell each in separate auctions. There are a lot of idiotz out there. I ran into one who'd removed a group of boards from (probably) an -11/40, and then s

KDF 8189 processor board foobared (ebay warning)

2017-05-20 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
I just ran across a sale on epay by a guy who thought you could pull the processor chip off the board and sell each in separate auctions. I couldn't find the processor from the huge number of gold scrap chip auctions he had, but he said it (or the other) chip(s) for the board were listed. I