On Thu, 16 Jun 2016, r.stricklin wrote:
Hooleon does/did. For other keyboards as well.
"For availability and pricing contact Hooleon Sales"
Translation: "We don't stock this stuff so don't bother us."
g.
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> On Jun 16, 2016, at 10:32 , Earl Baugh wrote:
>
> I'm puzzled, what do you mean two part? Cap and key?
> That's all I've gotten from Unicomp... That's how I got all of the "blank"
> caps from...
Yes, I think that most of the keys on the Unicomp keyboard I bought a year or
so ago were two-p
Hooleon does/did. For other keyboards as well.
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> On Jun 16, 2016, at 11:41, geneb wrote:
>
>
> Does anyone other than Unicomp make different key caps?
On Thu, 16 Jun 2016, Earl Baugh wrote:
From: Swift Griggs
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, geneb wrote:
I just wish the Unicomp keys were two-part keys like the Model M uses.
I wish ALL keyboards did that... it's a superior design, IMHO.
I'm puzzled, what do you mean two part? Cap and key?
That's all
From: Swift Griggs
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, geneb wrote:
> I just wish the Unicomp keys were two-part keys like the Model M uses.
I wish ALL keyboards did that... it's a superior design, IMHO.
I'm puzzled, what do you mean two part? Cap and key?
That's all I've gotten from Unicomp... That's how I
On 16 June 2016 at 13:25, Peter Corlett wrote:
> My teetering pile of junk^W Fine Legacy Equipment that requires some TLC
> includes a dead Unicomp Model M where some of the legends have clearly worn
> away. The user admits to putting it through the dishwasher at least twice,
> having apparently d
del M (was Re: NEC ProSpeed 386)
On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 09:17:01AM -0700, Christopher Satterfield wrote:
> Unicomp keys are still done using dyesub PBT, same as IBMs. Still
> takes a lot of effort to wear it down, I don't recall ever seeing a
> board with any wear on the legends.
M
On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 09:17:01AM -0700, Christopher Satterfield wrote:
> Unicomp keys are still done using dyesub PBT, same as IBMs. Still takes a lot
> of effort to wear it down, I don't recall ever seeing a board with any wear
> on the legends.
My teetering pile of junk^W Fine Legacy Equipment
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, geneb wrote:
> I just wish the Unicomp keys were two-part keys like the Model M uses.
I wish ALL keyboards did that... it's a superior design, IMHO.
-Swift
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, Christopher Satterfield wrote:
Unicomp keys are still done using dyesub PBT, same as IBMs. Still takes a
lot of effort to wear it down, I don't recall ever seeing a board with any
wear on the legends.
I just wish the Unicomp keys were two-part keys like the Model M uses.
Unicomp keys are still done using dyesub PBT, same as IBMs. Still takes a
lot of effort to wear it down, I don't recall ever seeing a board with any
wear on the legends.
On Mon, 13 Jun 2016, Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 06/01/2016 07:12 AM, geneb wrote:
It's called a "double-shot" key. There's two injection molds used
for each key.
I recall contacting the people at Unicomp to ask about their keys, and
received the answer that no, they were not double-shot, but
las
On 06/01/2016 07:12 AM, geneb wrote:
> It's called a "double-shot" key. There's two injection molds used
> for each key.
I recall contacting the people at Unicomp to ask about their keys, and
received the answer that no, they were not double-shot, but
laser-engraved and should be very durable.
On Jun 2, 2016, at 2:42 PM, Electronics Plus wrote:
> The Apple Extended Keyboard II also has mechanical switches, made by Alps. I
> have several of them.
Except for “Made in Japan” M3501 models marked © 1989, those have Mitsumi
mechanical key switches.
Those turn out to be the ones I prefer,
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From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Liam Proven
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 6:16 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Apple & SGI keyboards (Re: NEC ProSpeed 386)
On 1 June 2016 at 20:57, Swift Gr
When I worked at an Apple repair centre we used to fix them by replacing the
switches... Until the switch to cheap Chinese keyboards
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> On 2 Jun 2016, at 00:15, Liam Proven wrote:
>
>> On 1 June 2016 at 20:57, Swift Griggs wrote:
>> Cool. I didn't know about those early mec
> On Jun 1, 2016, at 4:15 PM, Liam Proven wrote:
>
> Yeah, I think all Apple keyboards /up until/ the Extended II had
> keyswitches -- then they switched to cheaper ones, like most of the
> industry.
I believe so. I’m typing this on my Extended II keyboard. I bought it when I
bought my Power
On 1 June 2016 at 20:57, Swift Griggs wrote:
> Cool. I didn't know about those early mechanical models. I didn't wake up
> to macs until about the Mac II days. I did have a friend with a IIGS. I
> remember playing the Bards' Tale series on there. So, I must have used it
> before.
Yeah, I think al
On my 1992 IBM Model M most of the key caps are removable but some are not.
Notably, wider keys such as Backspace, Enter and the big + on the numeric
pad don't have removable caps. They're like the Unicomp Wide Keys.
On 1 June 2016 at 14:52, geneb wrote:
> On Tue, 31 May 2016, Christopher Satte
On Wed, 1 Jun 2016, Raymond Wiker wrote:
> The Apple //e, //c, //c+ and //GS all had mechanical and somewhat clicky
> keyboards (using various types of Alps keyswitches). I'm also pretty
> certain that the original Mac had a (very nice) clicky keyboard.
Cool. I didn't know about those early mech
> On 01 Jun 2016, at 16:46 , Liam Proven wrote:
>
> On 1 June 2016 at 00:16, Swift Griggs wrote:
>> I've never
>> known them to create "clackety" keyboards with mechanical switches
>
> But that's the point. This here Extended II has them, as did the
> Extended I before it. (I have one of them
On 1 June 2016 at 00:16, Swift Griggs wrote:
> I've never
> known them to create "clackety" keyboards with mechanical switches
But that's the point. This here Extended II has them, as did the
Extended I before it. (I have one of them too, but I couldn't find it
in my storage unit in London to bri
On Tue, 31 May 2016, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote:
On May 31, 2016, at 5:10 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
I used one enough to have worn a visible depression in the space bar
with my right thumb. I still have a few of the keyboards around.
Another thing I love about the WASD keyboards. Because the le
On Tue, 31 May 2016, Christopher Satterfield wrote:
Unicomp still sells replacement caps (
http://www.pckeyboard.com/page/category/Buttons ), however I believe they
have a minimum order amount (price). There are also the ever-so-hated
keyboard forums where you can often post a "Looking for" and
I think I'm using an M. The label was removed long ago. At home I have
a couple of the version that came with an industrialized version that
went with ditto rack mount PS/2 of some flavor. The company I worked
at was buying around 20 a month and even though the product they went
into never used the
>
> I only use Model M keyboards. I have one for my Linux box, one for my
> Mac, and one for the office Mac. I have about five more sitting in the
> closet of the home office on standby, and I think I have a box of keyboards
> in storage.
I have a couple of Model M boards, and a Unix layout U
> On May 31, 2016, at 5:38 PM, Pete Turnbull wrote:
>
> Yet I had a colleague whose keyboard was made with all-blank caps. Very
> interesting when he needed help, or got me to demonstrate a problem - which
> luckily were very rarely.
My other Cherry keyboard I love is some sort of "gaming" m
On 05/31/2016 05:39 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
> By the time that my little finger muscles built up, I was solidly in
> the habit of using my other hand. And then it felt strange to have
> shift keys that only took the same force as a regular key.
I mention this only because the pinky finger on my l
On 01/06/2016 01:17, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote:
Another thing I love about the WASD keyboards. Because the lettering
is molded all the way through the keycap, I can't wear the letters
off.
Agreed, it's the only way to make them...
I'm not that good of a touch typist that I can work with a blank
I had a problem with touch-typing. My little finger wasn't strong
enough to casually lift the entire mechanism. So, for a capital
'F', instead of a little finger and the key, it was my whole right
hand on the right shift while I pressed that key.
On Tue, 31 May 2016, Chuck Guzis wrote:
Fred, I
On 31/05/2016 23:16, Swift Griggs wrote:
That was the one thing that never really shone in the SGI world, despite
some cool fru-fru in other places. I have a granite slab keyboard and an
SGI USB keyboard. Neither is anything special
My granite slab Indy keyboards are actually my favourites :-)
> On May 31, 2016, at 5:10 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
>
> I used one enough to have worn a visible depression in the space bar
> with my right thumb. I still have a few of the keyboards around.
Another thing I love about the WASD keyboards. Because the lettering is molded
all the way through the
On 05/31/2016 04:57 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
> I had a problem with touch-typing. My little finger wasn't strong
> enough to casually lift the entire mechanism. So, for a capital
> 'F', instead of a little finger and the key, it was my whole right
> hand on the right shift while I pressed that key
On 05/31/2016 04:31 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote:
> The only sane modern keyboards are the WASD 'CODE' series. I have
> the 87 key model:
>
> http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/code-keyboard/code-87-key-mechanical-keyboard-mx-green.html
>
> As someone who has spent years pounding on
On Tue, 31 May 2016, Chuck Guzis wrote:
It could be a matter of what you learned to touch-type on. For me, it
was a manual Underwood office machine.
Royal
It took some time to get used to
an electric typewriter--too twitchy. One thing that's probably been
lost to time is the need for a unif
>>
>> Hehe, I use my Model M mostly with SGI's that have PS/2 ports. So, I'm
>> right there with you.
The only sane modern keyboards are the WASD 'CODE' series. I have the 87 key
model:
http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/code-keyboard/code-87-key-mechanical-keyboard-mx-green.h
On 2016-05-31 7:16 PM, Swift Griggs wrote:
That was the one thing that never really shone in the SGI world,
despite some cool fru-fru in other places. I have a granite slab
keyboard and an SGI USB keyboard. Neither is anything special (and the
USB one has DOMES *gasp*... the horror). However, S
It was thus said that the Great Swift Griggs once stated:
> On Tue, 31 May 2016, Peter Coghlan wrote:
> > > It might be interesting to poll the list to see who's still using an IBM
> > > Model M keyboard on their x86 box. I am.
> > > Windows key? What Windows key? ;)
> >
> > x86 box? What x86 bo
I believe the Apple Extended Keyboard II was the last Apple keyboard with
mechanical switches. I know that it's a desired keyboard even today!
Out of the all of the keyboards I use regularly, I think my granite SGI is
my favorite. On my main work Mac, I was using a Das Keyboard until a few
days ag
On Tue, 31 May 2016, Christopher Satterfield wrote:
> Unicomp still sells replacement caps (
> http://www.pckeyboard.com/page/category/Buttons ), however I believe they
> have a minimum order amount (price). There are also the ever-so-hated
> keyboard forums where you can often post a "Looking for"
Unicomp still sells replacement caps (
http://www.pckeyboard.com/page/category/Buttons ), however I believe they
have a minimum order amount (price). There are also the ever-so-hated
keyboard forums where you can often post a "Looking for" and find someone
with some spares they'll dump dirt cheap o
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Chuck
Guzis
> Sent: 31 May 2016 20:01
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> Subject: Re: NEC ProSpeed 386
>
> On 05/31/2016 11:21 AM, Dave Wade wrote:
>
&g
While on the subject anyone know where one can buy replacement key caps?
-Ali
On Tue, 31 May 2016, Liam Proven wrote:
> On 31 May 2016 at 19:15, Chris Hanson wrote:
> > On my desk at work, I have a 5K iMac hooked up to the same Apple Extended
> > Keyboard II that I've been using since 1990. :)
> Excellent! :-)
I'm not a huge Apple zealot to the point of wearing black turt
On Tue, 31 May 2016, Swift Griggs wrote:
> 1. The Logitech Orion Spark G910 with Romer-G switches
> 2. The CM Storm Quickfire Pro with MX Blue switches
> 3. The Razer Blackwidow with green switches
Ahhh, and my anti-keyboard list. These three are supposed to be wonderful.
I found them not-so-muc
On 5/31/2016 2:01 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 05/31/2016 11:21 AM, Dave Wade wrote:
I don't like the Model "M" keyboard. It's a bit like wanting a
tracker organ rather than my Yamaha EL90. The keys require
significant pressure to operate and if you are not used to it its
actually hard work...
On Tue, 31 May 2016, Peter Coghlan wrote:
> > It might be interesting to poll the list to see who's still using an IBM
> > Model M keyboard on their x86 box. I am.
> > Windows key? What Windows key? ;)
>
> x86 box? What x86 box? ;)
Hehe, I use my Model M mostly with SGI's that have PS/2 ports.
ed II
keyboard on a DR.Bott ADB KVM in the lab if that helps.
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From: Chuck Guzis
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 1:36 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: NEC ProSpeed 386
On 05/31/2016 10:15 AM, Chris Hanson wrote:
On May 30, 2016, at 7:
On 31 May 2016 at 19:36, Chuck Guzis wrote:
> It might be interesting to poll the list to see who's still using an IBM
> Model M keyboard on their x86 box. I am.
>
> Windows key? What Windows key? ;)
The single one that I brought to Czechia so far is currently on my
Raspberry Pi. :-)
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On 31 May 2016 at 19:15, Chris Hanson wrote:
> On my desk at work, I have a 5K iMac hooked up to the same Apple Extended
> Keyboard II that I've been using since 1990. :)
Excellent! :-)
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On 31/05/2016 20:25, Chuck Guzis wrote:
Well, I still have a couple of red "Panic" keys that fit Cherry
keyboards...
But do you have the "Don't panic" key for the other end of the row?
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On 05/31/2016 11:21 AM, Dave Wade wrote:
> I don't like the Model "M" keyboard. It's a bit like wanting a
> tracker organ rather than my Yamaha EL90. The keys require
> significant pressure to operate and if you are not used to it its
> actually hard work. I am not really used to this Lenovo Think
On 05/31/2016 11:49 AM, Fred Cisin wrote:
> The one with the picture of a dry-rot window Do you mean [Ctrl[Esc]?
Dunno, I use Linux. But I used to get calls from the Indian
subcontinent telling me that my Windows computer was showing suspicious
action. I tried to comply with their instructions
On Tue, 31 May 2016, Chuck Guzis wrote:
It might be interesting to poll the list to see who's still using an IBM
Model M keyboard on their x86 box. I am.
Windows key? What Windows key? ;)
The one with the picture of a dry-rot window
Do you mean [Ctrl[Esc]?
Best way to represent the above?
On 2016-05-31 2:36 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 05/31/2016 10:15 AM, Chris Hanson wrote:
On May 30, 2016, at 7:01 AM, Liam Proven wrote:
But it does please me that, right now, I'm using an Apple Extended
II keyboard from 1990 on my 2011 Mac mini. :-) It feels more
authentically "Mac-like" this wa
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Mouse
> Sent: 31 May 2016 18:42
> To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: NEC ProSpeed 386
>
> > It might be interesting to poll the list to see who's still using a
I have 6 model M's around at last count, plus many more for parts. Good
keyboard, i set them up at the 2 front computers at work.
On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 2:18 PM, Paul Berger wrote:
> On 2016-05-31 2:36 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
>
>> On 05/31/2016 10:15 AM, Chris Hanson wrote:
>>
>>> On May 30, 201
On 2016/05/31 10:36 AM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
> On 05/31/2016 10:15 AM, Chris Hanson wrote:
> > On May 30, 2016, at 7:01 AM, Liam Proven wrote:
> >> But it does please me that, right now, I'm using an Apple Extended
> >> II keyboard from 1990 on my 2011 Mac mini. :-) It feels more
> >> authentically
I just broke one of the pins on the ps2 connector on my model M :(
Otherwise I would be using it on my headless server when it doesn't boot
and needs a console to rescue it.
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On 31 May 2016 6:36 pm, "Chuck Guzis" wrote:
> On 05/31/2016 10:15 AM, Chris Hanson wrote:
> > On May 30, 2016,
> It might be interesting to poll the list to see who's still using an
> IBM Model M keyboard on their x86 box. I am.
Not me. My x86 boxen get whatever peecee keyboard is handiest when I
want a keyboard on them. I don't have a Model M as far as I know; my
impression from seeing others' is that
On 05/31/2016 10:15 AM, Chris Hanson wrote:
> On May 30, 2016, at 7:01 AM, Liam Proven wrote:
>> But it does please me that, right now, I'm using an Apple Extended
>> II keyboard from 1990 on my 2011 Mac mini. :-) It feels more
>> authentically "Mac-like" this way, somehow.
>
> On my desk at wor
On May 30, 2016, at 7:01 AM, Liam Proven wrote:
> But it does please me that, right now, I'm using an Apple Extended II
> keyboard from 1990 on my 2011 Mac mini. :-) It feels more
> authentically "Mac-like" this way, somehow.
On my desk at work, I have a 5K iMac hooked up to the same Apple Extend
On 29 May 2016 at 19:23, Chris Hanson wrote:
> Nonetheless, not bad for well under the $60 sticker price when you consider
> that they also threw in the Griffin iMate I was also getting for that price!
Indeed! My iMate cost more than that on its own. :-(
But it does please me that, right now,
I just acquired an NEC ProSpeed 386 portable from WeirdStuff.
http://imgur.com/a/vUTvd <http://imgur.com/a/vUTvd>
The system boots fine off floppy, and after running the setup program—that can
still be downloaded from NEC America’s FTP site!—I was able to boot DOS and
Windows 3.11 fr
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