Re: OT: Argh--my old faithful HP16C is failing!

2017-12-06 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 12/06/2017 07:30 PM, Paul Berger via cctalk wrote: > You are welcome glad it is going again it is the very best programmers > calculator ever made.  Mine is just a little newer than yours and still > going strong.  I bought mine new when taking a 370 assembler course. I bought mine when my TI

Re: OT: Argh--my old faithful HP16C is failing!

2017-12-06 Thread Paul Berger via cctalk
On 2017-12-06 11:26 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 12/06/2017 07:00 PM, Paul Berger via cctalk wrote: Well that usually means that there is contamination at the connection point or the sandwich is not clamped tightly enough.  I have cleaned them off with alcohol and a lint free cloth.  I

Re: OT: Argh--my old faithful HP16C is failing!

2017-12-06 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 12/06/2017 07:00 PM, Paul Berger via cctalk wrote: > Well that usually means that there is contamination at the connection > point or the sandwich is not clamped tightly enough.  I have cleaned > them off with alcohol and a lint free cloth.  If I remember correctly > there is not space for you t

Re: OT: Argh--my old faithful HP16C is failing!

2017-12-06 Thread Paul Berger via cctalk
Well that usually means that there is contamination at the connection point or the sandwich is not clamped tightly enough.  I have cleaned them off with alcohol and a lint free cloth.  If I remember correctly there is not space for you to get them out of alignment. Paul. On 2017-12-06 10:42

Re: OT: Argh--my old faithful HP16C is failing!

2017-12-06 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
Well, I replaced the LCD and was greeted with missing segments. Any suggestions before I throw in the towel? That glue from hell necessitated picking off the black plastic shielding bit by bit with forceps ans a magnifying glass. Really awful stuff. --Chuck

Re: OT: Argh--my old faithful HP16C is failing!

2017-12-06 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 12/06/2017 02:51 PM, Paul Berger via cctalk wrote: > Ok I am guessing you have figured out how to take the back off? (screws > under the rubber feet) with the calculator upside down and the display > away from you there is a connector at the top right that connects the > keyboard to the electron

Re: OT: Argh--my old faithful HP16C is failing!

2017-12-06 Thread Paul Berger via cctalk
Ok I am guessing you have figured out how to take the back off? (screws under the rubber feet) with the calculator upside down and the display away from you there is a connector at the top right that connects the keyboard to the electronics on the back of the display carefully  lift that  flexi

Re: OT: Argh--my old faithful HP16C is failing!

2017-12-06 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 12/06/2017 01:22 PM, Paul Berger via cctalk wrote: > I just looked back at the archives of the hpmuseum.org site and the > donor 12C that the display came from for the 16C I repaired for another > MoHPC member had a serial number that began with 2224A and was the > version with the innards wrapp

Re: OT: Argh--my old faithful HP16C is failing!

2017-12-06 Thread Paul Berger via cctalk
I just looked back at the archives of the hpmuseum.org site and the donor 12C that the display came from for the 16C I repaired for another MoHPC member had a serial number that began with 2224A and was the version with the innards wrapped in black plastic like your 16C. Paul. On 2017-12-06

Re: OT: Argh--my old faithful HP16C is failing!

2017-12-06 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 12/06/2017 10:10 AM, Tony Duell wrote: > 'Later' here might mean the modern versions of the 12C, which is very > different. I thought both types of construction of the original Voyagers > used the same display but I must admit I have never swapped them over. Feh, the "old" HP12C that I got for

Re: OT: Argh--my old faithful HP16C is failing!

2017-12-06 Thread Tony Duell via cctalk
On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 6:07 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > On 12/03/2017 10:00 AM, Tony Duell wrote: > >> That sounds like the original version with the separate logic module. >> >> I think the display is the same between the 2 versions. I am also >> pretty sure the same display is used in al

Re: OT: Argh--my old faithful HP16C is failing!

2017-12-06 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 12/03/2017 10:00 AM, Tony Duell wrote: > That sounds like the original version with the separate logic module. > > I think the display is the same between the 2 versions. I am also > pretty sure the same display is used in all the old Voyagers (there > are annunciators on it that are not used

Re: OT: Argh--my old faithful HP16C is failing!

2017-12-02 Thread Tony Duell via cctalk
On Sun, Dec 3, 2017 at 4:39 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > On 12/02/2017 05:18 PM, Paul Berger via cctalk wrote: >> A good source of replacement displays is from 12C of the same vintage, >> there was lots of them produced and they can often be obtained for a >> reasonable cost. If you you lo

Re: OT: Argh--my old faithful HP16C is failing!

2017-12-02 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 12/02/2017 05:18 PM, Paul Berger via cctalk wrote: > A good source of replacement displays is from 12C of the same vintage, > there was lots of them produced and they can often be obtained for a > reasonable cost.  If you you look in the archives of the forums on > hpmuseum.org you will find adv

Re: OT: Argh--my old faithful HP16C is failing!

2017-12-02 Thread Paul Berger via cctalk
A good source of replacement displays is from 12C of the same vintage, there was lots of them produced and they can often be obtained for a reasonable cost.  If you you look in the archives of the forums on hpmuseum.org you will find advise on what to look for for a suitable replacement.  I hav

Re: OT: Argh--my old faithful HP16C is failing!

2017-12-02 Thread Alexandre Souza via cctalk
Chuck, probably the LCD is gone south. But would the thisplay be the same of contemporary HP calculators (11/12)? 2017-12-02 22:31 GMT-02:00 Chuck Guzis via cctalk : > Today, I picked up my trusty HP16C that's been with me through thick and > thin and noticed a black splotch extending across abou

OT: Argh--my old faithful HP16C is failing!

2017-12-02 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
Today, I picked up my trusty HP16C that's been with me through thick and thin and noticed a black splotch extending across about half the display. This is with the power off. Is the LCD display failing? Can it be repaired? This thing has been a a sidekick of my for a very long time and I'd hat