Re: Oberon and the OberonStation (retro-style FPGA computing)

2015-12-02 Thread Liam Proven
On 2 December 2015 at 17:54, Jos Dreesen wrote: > On 02.12.2015 15:04, Liam Proven wrote: >> >> On 24 November 2015 at 08:45, Mark Wickens >> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks for letting us know about this William - I'm sure there is still >>> plenty of interest in Oberon, Modula-2, Modula-3 and other deriv

Re: Oberon and the OberonStation (retro-style FPGA computing)

2015-12-02 Thread Jos Dreesen
On 02.12.2015 15:04, Liam Proven wrote: On 24 November 2015 at 08:45, Mark Wickens wrote: Thanks for letting us know about this William - I'm sure there is still plenty of interest in Oberon, Modula-2, Modula-3 and other derivatives. Was there ever an ARM version? I am wondering how hard it

Re: Oberon and the OberonStation (retro-style FPGA computing)

2015-12-02 Thread Liam Proven
On 24 November 2015 at 08:45, Mark Wickens wrote: > Thanks for letting us know about this William - I'm sure there is still > plenty of interest in Oberon, Modula-2, Modula-3 and other derivatives. Was there ever an ARM version? I am wondering how hard it would be to port to Raspberry Pi... --

RE: Oberon and the OberonStation (retro-style FPGA computing)

2015-12-02 Thread Dave Wade
t; To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' > > Subject: RE: Oberon and the OberonStation (retro-style FPGA computing) > > >Do you have 5 volt I/O with the OberonStaion FPGA? > >I was thinking of using it as general FPGA card. > > The serial port is 3.

Re: Oberon and the OberonStation (retro-style FPGA computing)

2015-12-02 Thread Eric Smith
> Do you have 5 volt I/O with the OberonStaion FPGA? > I was thinking of using it as general FPGA card. No, the FPGA pins are neither 5V, nor 5V-tolerant. The last Xilinx FPGA that had 5V-tolerant I/O was the Spartan II. Xilinx does still make CPLDs that are 5V-tolerant, the XC95nnXL series.

RE: Oberon and the OberonStation (retro-style FPGA computing)

2015-12-02 Thread William Maddox
>Do you have 5 volt I/O with the OberonStaion FPGA? >I was thinking of using it as general FPGA card. The serial port is 3.3v according to the website. I haven't attempted to use the serial port or the GPIO pins, but I believe they are all 3.3 volts for the Spartan 3 series. Check the data sh

Re: Oberon and the OberonStation (retro-style FPGA computing)

2015-12-01 Thread ben
On 11/23/2015 7:28 PM, William Maddox wrote: The revived 2013 re-issue of Niklaus Wirth's Oberon system is a joy to behold. If you've never heard of Oberon before, it is a minimalistic education-oriented language and operating system designed after Wirth had taken a (second) sabattical at PA

Re: Oberon and the OberonStation (retro-style FPGA computing)

2015-11-25 Thread Kurt K
They show sold out for the kits. Didn't see a link to ask if they'll ever get more in stock. > On Nov 24, 2015, at 1:46 AM, Mark Wickens wrote: > > In answer to Kurts question - the link with boards to purchase is here: > http://oberonstation.x10.mx/ > >> On 24 November 2015 at 07:45, Mark

Re: Oberon and the OberonStation (retro-style FPGA computing)

2015-11-25 Thread geneb
On Wed, 25 Nov 2015, Jon Elson wrote: On 11/25/2015 09:01 AM, geneb wrote: On Tue, 24 Nov 2015, Paul Koning wrote: Pascal is largely obsolete now, but I still appreciate it -- of the 40 or so languages I know, there are only two where I could go from no knowledge at all to having a working p

Re: Oberon and the OberonStation (retro-style FPGA computing)

2015-11-25 Thread Jon Elson
On 11/25/2015 09:01 AM, geneb wrote: On Tue, 24 Nov 2015, Paul Koning wrote: Pascal is largely obsolete now, but I still appreciate it -- of the 40 or so languages I know, there are only two where I could go from no knowledge at all to having a working program of significant size in one week:

Re: Oberon and the OberonStation (retro-style FPGA computing)

2015-11-25 Thread geneb
On Tue, 24 Nov 2015, Paul Koning wrote: Pascal is largely obsolete now, but I still appreciate it -- of the 40 or so languages I know, there are only two where I could go from no knowledge at all to having a working program of significant size in one week: Pascal and Python. Um, no. Check o

Re: Oberon and the OberonStation (retro-style FPGA computing)

2015-11-25 Thread geneb
On Tue, 24 Nov 2015, ben wrote: On 11/23/2015 7:28 PM, William Maddox wrote: The revived 2013 re-issue of Niklaus Wirth's Oberon system is a joy to behold. If you've never heard of Oberon before, it is a minimalistic education-oriented language and operating system designed after Wirth had ta

Re: Oberon and the OberonStation (retro-style FPGA computing)

2015-11-24 Thread Mark J. Blair
> On Nov 24, 2015, at 17:58, Earl Evans wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 5:30 PM, ben wrote: > >> >> I say WORTH LESS, with out even looking at it, as I am NOT a Pascal >> FAN >> >> > ​I'm guessing you're more of a FORTRAN devotee, based on the ALL CAPS? OH, SNAP! :) -- Mark J. Blair,

Re: Oberon and the OberonStation (retro-style FPGA computing)

2015-11-24 Thread Earl Evans
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 5:30 PM, ben wrote: > > I say WORTH LESS, with out even looking at it, as I am NOT a Pascal > FAN > > ​I'm guessing you're more of a FORTRAN devotee, based on the ALL CAPS? ​

Re: Oberon and the OberonStation (retro-style FPGA computing)

2015-11-24 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 11/24/2015 06:16 PM, Jon Elson wrote: My only complaints with Pascal were the I/O was a bit clunky and slow, and the stupid / vs. div for real vs. integer divides. Otherwise, I really thought it was great. IIRC, initially Pascal had no substantial I/O facilities--left as an exercise for th

Re: Oberon and the OberonStation (retro-style FPGA computing)

2015-11-24 Thread Jon Elson
On 11/24/2015 07:34 PM, Paul Koning wrote: Judging a language without even looking at it seems rather odd. Pascal is largely obsolete now, but I still appreciate it -- of the 40 or so languages I know, there are only two where I could go from no knowledge at all to having a working program of

Re: Oberon and the OberonStation (retro-style FPGA computing)

2015-11-24 Thread Paul Koning
> On Nov 24, 2015, at 8:30 PM, ben wrote: > > On 11/23/2015 7:28 PM, William Maddox wrote: >> >> The revived 2013 re-issue of Niklaus Wirth's Oberon system is a joy >> to behold. If you've never heard of Oberon before, it is a >> minimalistic education-oriented language and operating system >>

Re: Oberon and the OberonStation (retro-style FPGA computing)

2015-11-24 Thread ben
On 11/23/2015 7:28 PM, William Maddox wrote: The revived 2013 re-issue of Niklaus Wirth's Oberon system is a joy to behold. If you've never heard of Oberon before, it is a minimalistic education-oriented language and operating system designed after Wirth had taken a (second) sabattical at PARC

Re: Oberon and the OberonStation (retro-style FPGA computing)

2015-11-23 Thread Mark Wickens
In answer to Kurts question - the link with boards to purchase is here: http://oberonstation.x10.mx/ On 24 November 2015 at 07:45, Mark Wickens wrote: > Thanks for letting us know about this William - I'm sure there is still > plenty of interest in Oberon, Modula-2, Modula-3 and other derivative

Re: Oberon and the OberonStation (retro-style FPGA computing)

2015-11-23 Thread Mark Wickens
Thanks for letting us know about this William - I'm sure there is still plenty of interest in Oberon, Modula-2, Modula-3 and other derivatives. On 24 November 2015 at 04:26, Kurt K wrote: > Where did you order the Oberon Station. I didn't see a link off the > project page. > > > On Nov 23, 2015

Re: Oberon and the OberonStation (retro-style FPGA computing)

2015-11-23 Thread Kurt K
Where did you order the Oberon Station. I didn't see a link off the project page. > On Nov 23, 2015, at 8:28 PM, William Maddox wrote: > > > The revived 2013 re-issue of Niklaus Wirth's Oberon system is a joy to > behold. If you've never heard of Oberon before, it is a minimalistic > educa

Oberon and the OberonStation (retro-style FPGA computing)

2015-11-23 Thread William Maddox
The revived 2013 re-issue of Niklaus Wirth's Oberon system is a joy to behold.  If you've never heard of Oberon before, it is a minimalistic education-oriented language and operating system designed after Wirth had taken a (second) sabattical at PARC in the 80's. The new version runs on a cust