Obscure pcc targets - Re: 1980s/1990s 68k C cross (and not so cross) compilers

2015-11-25 Thread Toby Thain
On 2015-11-25 2:22 PM, Al Kossow wrote: On 11/25/15 8:46 AM, Brad Parker wrote: In 1987 gcc would compile to 68k quite well. Before that I seem to recall that there was also a C compiler from Standford, from sumex (wow - do I still have those brain cells?). Remember sumex-aim ? SumMacC. Anywa

Re: 1980s/1990s 68k C cross (and not so cross) compilers

2015-11-25 Thread Al Kossow
On 11/25/15 8:46 AM, Brad Parker wrote: In 1987 gcc would compile to 68k quite well. Before that I seem to recall that there was also a C compiler from Standford, from sumex (wow - do I still have those brain cells?). Remember sumex-aim ? SumMacC. Anyway, I think the Kinetics fastpath was co

Re: 1980s/1990s 68k C cross (and not so cross) compilers

2015-11-25 Thread Toby Thain
On 2015-11-25 1:41 PM, Phil Budne wrote: Brad Parker wrote: Remember sumex-aim ? SumMacC. Anyway, I think the Kinetics fastpath was compiled with that Perhaps originally But when the FastPath code arrived at Shiva it was using the SunOS 4 native compiler on Sun3. I moved it to

Re: 1980s/1990s 68k C cross (and not so cross) compilers

2015-11-25 Thread Phil Budne
Brad Parker wrote: > Remember sumex-aim ? SumMacC. > Anyway, I think the Kinetics fastpath was compiled with that Perhaps originally But when the FastPath code arrived at Shiva it was using the SunOS 4 native compiler on Sun3. I moved it to gcc on Sun4. The 6/88 KIP release has C

Re: 1980s/1990s 68k C cross (and not so cross) compilers

2015-11-25 Thread Toby Thain
On 2015-11-25 11:46 AM, Brad Parker wrote: On 11/21/15 2:38 PM, Al Kossow wrote: On 11/21/15 10:44 AM, Paul Koning wrote: Arg, totally forgot to include the HP 64000 and Tek 8560 development systems though I'm blanking right now on if they did their own or sold third-party C compilers. Thi

Re: 1980s/1990s 68k C cross (and not so cross) compilers

2015-11-25 Thread Brad Parker
On 11/21/15 2:38 PM, Al Kossow wrote: On 11/21/15 10:44 AM, Paul Koning wrote: Arg, totally forgot to include the HP 64000 and Tek 8560 development systems though I'm blanking right now on if they did their own or sold third-party C compilers. Third party, I believe. I used one of those f

Re: 1980s/1990s 68k C cross (and not so cross) compilers

2015-11-22 Thread Charlie Carothers
On 11/21/2015 4:54 AM, Philip Pemberton wrote: Hi there, I'm working on reverse engineering a radio navigation receiver (surprisingly not GPS, something else... Datatrak if anyone's heard of it) for the purpose of either repurposing the hardware or building up some kind of demo rig. A lot of my

Re: 1980s/1990s 68k C cross (and not so cross) compilers

2015-11-21 Thread Paul Koning
> On Nov 21, 2015, at 2:38 PM, Al Kossow wrote: > > > > On 11/21/15 10:44 AM, Paul Koning wrote: > >>> Arg, totally forgot to include the HP 64000 and Tek 8560 development >>> systems though I'm >>> blanking right now on if they did their own or sold third-party C compilers. >> >> Third par

Re: 1980s/1990s 68k C cross (and not so cross) compilers

2015-11-21 Thread Al Kossow
On 11/21/15 10:44 AM, Paul Koning wrote: Arg, totally forgot to include the HP 64000 and Tek 8560 development systems though I'm blanking right now on if they did their own or sold third-party C compilers. Third party, I believe. I used one of those for a 68040 (developing the DECbridge 9

Re: 1980s/1990s 68k C cross (and not so cross) compilers

2015-11-21 Thread Paul Koning
> On Nov 21, 2015, at 12:40 PM, Al Kossow wrote: > > On 11/21/15 9:29 AM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > >> Let's not forget the VersaDOS/EXORmacs platforms. That's where I did my >> 80's 68K work. >> > > Arg, totally forgot to include the HP 64000 and Tek 8560 development systems > though I'm > bla

Re: 1980s/1990s 68k C cross (and not so cross) compilers

2015-11-21 Thread Dennis Boone
> Does anyone know which 68000 compilers were available in 1993, and > which could produce ROM code? Or a few? There are a few listed here: http://www.faqs.org/faqs/motorola/68k-chips-faq/ De

Re: 1980s/1990s 68k C cross (and not so cross) compilers

2015-11-21 Thread Al Kossow
On 11/21/15 9:29 AM, Chuck Guzis wrote: Let's not forget the VersaDOS/EXORmacs platforms. That's where I did my 80's 68K work. Arg, totally forgot to include the HP 64000 and Tek 8560 development systems though I'm blanking right now on if they did their own or sold third-party C compilers

Re: 1980s/1990s 68k C cross (and not so cross) compilers

2015-11-21 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 11/21/2015 08:51 AM, Ray Arachelian wrote: On the Mac side there was Sesame C, a shareware compiler, not sure if it could produce ROM code, and ofc Think C. It's probably unlikely that these were used on the DataTrak. Let's not forget the VersaDOS/EXORmacs platforms. That's where I did m

Re: 1980s/1990s 68k C cross (and not so cross) compilers

2015-11-21 Thread Al Kossow
On 11/21/15 2:54 AM, Philip Pemberton wrote: Which is one instruction longer... so it's not Aztec. Alcyon was popular.

Re: 1980s/1990s 68k C cross (and not so cross) compilers

2015-11-21 Thread Al Kossow
On 11/21/15 8:09 AM, Mark Green wrote: Does anyone know which 68000 compilers were available in 1993, and which could produce ROM code? Or a few? In the embedded space, Alcyon and Green Hills Metrowerks maybe. I'm more familiar with their CodeWarrior Mac product. They were bought out by Mot

Re: 1980s/1990s 68k C cross (and not so cross) compilers

2015-11-21 Thread Ray Arachelian
On 11/21/2015 05:54 AM, Philip Pemberton wrote: > Hi there, > > I'm working on reverse engineering a radio navigation receiver > (surprisingly not GPS, something else... Datatrak if anyone's heard of > it) for the purpose of either repurposing the hardware or building up > some kind of demo rig. >

RE: 1980s/1990s 68k C cross (and not so cross) compilers

2015-11-21 Thread Mark Green
When I was doing 68K development work in the 1990s we used the GNU C compiler to cross compile. It was a popular choice, so you might want to give it a try. -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Philip Pemberton Sent: November 21, 2015 5:54