Re: ADM-3A question

2019-08-24 Thread Charles via cctalk
Today I got home and my Mouser order had arrived. I soldered in the new 6-position DIP switch and popped a new 1488 in the socket. Nice RS232 data coming out... for about 10 seconds, then the transmit data line went to around +2 volts and stayed there. WTF. Tried another one, same thing. Went

Re: Archiving information, was Re: ADM-3A question

2019-08-17 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Fri, 16 Aug 2019, ben wrote: Well with me I have been finding with many searches, the modern browsers refuse to display sites for "what they figure is unsafe" yet the porn ads still show. I can find it, but not view it. I use current versions of Firefox and Chrome/Chromium, and I don't

Re: ADM-3A question

2019-08-16 Thread Charles via cctalk
I am still struggling with my ADM-5. The smoke I mentioned last time came from a tantalum capacitor decoupling a -20V supply. After removing it, I got back to the monitor showing a cursor. Interesting you should mention that... early in the debugging process (always start with the power

Re: ADM-3A question

2019-08-16 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
Charles wrote: > Today the replacement 'LS193 arrived, so I put it in the > previously-installed socket and the screen is now 24x80 again :) > I'd been testing with the dip switch in half-duplex mode... For final test, > I put it in FDX, connected to my HP protocol analyzer, and what do you

Re: Archiving information, was Re: ADM-3A question

2019-08-16 Thread Cameron Kaiser via cctalk
> Then imagine that a law is passed in a far away land, and the site owner > decides it's is too risky to bother with, and they then take the entire > site down - wiki and fora - with no warning and no access to the material... Gosh, Steven, I can't imagine for the *life of me* what site you're

Re: ADM-3A question

2019-08-16 Thread Charles via cctalk
I found a newer version of the tech manual on bitsavers, which does mention the mysterious S8 switch (as well as the S6 switch that fills the screen with 0's upon clearing). "The gated EXTENSION port mode, when selected by switch S8, allows selective transmission of data from the keyboard, in

Re: ADM-3A question

2019-08-16 Thread Charles via cctalk
Today the replacement 'LS193 arrived, so I put it in the previously-installed socket and the screen is now 24x80 again :) I'd been testing with the dip switch in half-duplex mode... For final test, I put it in FDX, connected to my HP protocol analyzer, and what do you know, no serial data out.

Re: Archiving information, was Re: ADM-3A question

2019-08-16 Thread dwight via cctalk
From: cctalk on behalf of Seth J. Morabito via cctalk Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 8:31 AM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Archiving information, was Re: ADM-3A question Paul Koning via cctalk writes: > Anything worth hav

Re: Archiving information, was Re: ADM-3A question

2019-08-16 Thread Tomasz Rola via cctalk
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 02:21:36AM -0400, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: [...] > Yeah, I added "CHWiki" to the text on the Main Page to make it a > little easier Because of curiosity, I tried. On gog: === chwiki - because gog discovers I type from Poland and "chwiki" looks like Polish word

Re: Archiving information, was Re: ADM-3A question

2019-08-16 Thread ben via cctalk
On 8/16/2019 1:50 AM, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote: On Thu, 15 Aug 2019, Noel Chiappa wrote: An additional issue, I think, is that Google is deprecating sites that use HTTP, versus HTTPS. I can't comment more, lest I start ranting at the utter Not true, in contrary, Google even crawls

Re: Archiving information, was Re: ADM-3A question

2019-08-16 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Steven M Jones > imagine that a law is passed in a far away land, and the site owner > decides it's is too risky to bother with, and they then take the entire > site down - wiki and fora - with no warning and no access to the > material... > .. > I would

Re: Archiving information, was Re: ADM-3A question

2019-08-16 Thread Seth J. Morabito via cctalk
Paul Koning via cctalk writes: > Anything worth having around deserves backup. Which makes me wonder > -- how is Wikipedia backed up? I guess it has a fork, which isn't > quite the same thing. I know Bitsavers is replicated in a number of > places. And one argument in favor of GIT is that

Re: Archiving information, was Re: ADM-3A question

2019-08-16 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 08/16/2019 02:50 AM, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote: On Thu, 15 Aug 2019, Noel Chiappa wrote: An additional issue, I think, is that Google is deprecating sites that use HTTP, versus HTTPS. I can't comment more, lest I start ranting at the utter Not true, in contrary, Google even crawls

Re: Archiving information, was Re: ADM-3A question

2019-08-16 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Aug 16, 2019, at 6:14 AM, Steven M Jones via cctalk > wrote: > > On 08/15/2019 23:21, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: >> I have on several occasions posted appeals to this list for people to >> contribute content to it, and gotten almost no response (with one notable >> exception), in

Re: Archiving information, was Re: ADM-3A question

2019-08-16 Thread Steven M Jones via cctalk
On 08/15/2019 23:21, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: I have on several occasions posted appeals to this list for people to contribute content to it, and gotten almost no response (with one notable exception), in terms of added content; that was a large part of why I merely mentioned it in an

Re: Archiving information, was Re: ADM-3A question

2019-08-16 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Thu, 15 Aug 2019, Noel Chiappa wrote: An additional issue, I think, is that Google is deprecating sites that use HTTP, versus HTTPS. I can't comment more, lest I start ranting at the utter Not true, in contrary, Google even crawls through FTP sites :-) Christian

Re: Archiving information, was Re: ADM-3A question

2019-08-16 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Eric Christopherson >> Anyway, the whole 'how do we find the info' is a part of why I started >> working on CHWiki, once I discovered it > Psst: it would've been a good idea to share the URL to CHWiki. Well, that passing reference wasn't an attempt to get people to go

Re: Archiving information, was Re: ADM-3A question

2019-08-15 Thread Eric Christopherson via cctalk
On Thu, Aug 15, 2019, 7:38 PM Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > Anyway, the whole 'how do we find the info' is a part of why I started > working on CHWiki, once I discovered it - in addition to the usual > advantages > of wikis (good for collaboration, good for adding stuff incrementally), it >

Re: Archiving information, was Re: ADM-3A question

2019-08-15 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Seth J. Morabito >> having stuff scattered across a zillion personal pages (be they blogs, >> or whatever) is going to make it hard to find the useful one when >> needed > The sheer vastness of content available, combined with a Google > monoculture, combined with

RE: Archiving information, was Re: ADM-3A question

2019-08-15 Thread Electronics Plus via cctalk
people do not want the "clutter". -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of ben via cctalk Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 6:57 PM To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Archiving information, was Re: ADM-3A question On 8/15/2019 4:33

Re: Archiving information, was Re: ADM-3A question

2019-08-15 Thread ben via cctalk
On 8/15/2019 4:33 PM, Marvin Johnston via cctalk wrote: Instead of the search engines working to improve AI, they should be putting more effort into ESP. However with 'FREE' web hosting vanishing faster the Dodo, you have lost most of the Small sites that may of had the information. A blog

Archiving information, was Re: ADM-3A question

2019-08-15 Thread Marvin Johnston via cctalk
Al Kossow via cctalk writes: > On 8/14/19 8:53 AM, Anders Nelson via cctalk wrote: >> I hope this thread will be written to a blog post > > Buried in a filing cabinet in the basement with a sign that says > "Beware of Leopard". > > Blogs are a stupid way to archive information, almost as

Re: ADM-3A question

2019-08-14 Thread ben via cctalk
On 8/14/2019 12:46 PM, Seth J. Morabito via cctalk wrote: It's not clear that it's the dynamic nature of the content he's unhappy with; it might just be that having stuff scattered across a zillion personal pages (be they blogs, or whatever) is going to make it hard to find the useful one when

Re: ADM-3A question

2019-08-14 Thread Anders Nelson via cctalk
"and that's why he's cranky. (Well, more so than he usually is :-)" A wealth of vintage cmp information, but good heavens he is cranky. -- Anders Nelson +1 (517) 775-6129 www.erogear.com On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 2:01 PM Noel Chiappa via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > >> Al

Re: ADM-3A question

2019-08-14 Thread Seth J. Morabito via cctalk
Noel Chiappa via cctalk writes: > >> Al Kossow via cctalk writes: > > >> Buried in a filing cabinet in the basement with a sign that > >> says "Beware of Leopard". > > Good one! > > > From: Seth J. Morabito > > > I'm going to respectfully disagree .. the proliferation of >

Re: ADM-3A question

2019-08-14 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
>> Al Kossow via cctalk writes: >> Buried in a filing cabinet in the basement with a sign that says >> "Beware of Leopard". Good one! > From: Seth J. Morabito > I'm going to respectfully disagree .. the proliferation of modern > JavaScript frameworks that are designed

Re: ADM-3A question

2019-08-14 Thread Seth J. Morabito via cctalk
Al Kossow via cctalk writes: > On 8/14/19 8:53 AM, Anders Nelson via cctalk wrote: >> I hope this thread will be written to a blog post > > Buried in a filing cabinet in the basement with a sign that says > "Beware of Leopard". > > Blogs are a stupid way to archive information, almost as stupid

Re: ADM-3A question

2019-08-14 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 8/14/19 8:53 AM, Anders Nelson via cctalk wrote: > I hope this thread will be written to a blog post Buried in a filing cabinet in the basement with a sign that says "Beware of Leopard". Blogs are a stupid way to archive information, almost as stupid as putting it on Facebook.

Re: ADM-3A question

2019-08-14 Thread Charles via cctalk
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 5:02 AM To: 'Charles' ; 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' Subject: RE: ADM-3A question Charles, I believe that TTL chips suffer from failure or detachment of the bonding wire that runs from the die to the interconnect pin, which would result

Re: ADM-3A question

2019-08-14 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
Charles wrote: > > After hanging vertically for 36 hrs in a hot upstairs room, more goop seeped > out from under the keyboard. It now works again. Whew. > > While running on the bench for burn-in testing, a cursor problem suddenly > appeared... it would only move every other keystroke. With the

RE: ADM-3A question

2019-08-14 Thread Dave Wade via cctalk
it suggested that heating the chip up in an oven could affect a temporary repair (sorry I can't find the reference now). Dave G4UGM > -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Charles via cctalk > Sent: 14 August 2019 00:20 > To: cctalk digest > Subject: Re: ADM-3A ques

Re: ADM-3A question

2019-08-13 Thread Charles via cctalk
After hanging vertically for 36 hrs in a hot upstairs room, more goop seeped out from under the keyboard. It now works again. Whew. While running on the bench for burn-in testing, a cursor problem suddenly appeared... it would only move every other keystroke. With the technical description

Re: ADM-3A question

2019-08-11 Thread Charles via cctalk
After replacing the RAM, the display is now back to normal (there's also a test switch on the motherboard (S6) that switches the display from blank spaces to all zeroes. The one that failed was a National Semi 2102, whereas the others are all from another manufacturer. No sign of previous

Re: ADM-3A question

2019-08-11 Thread Charles via cctalk
Thanks Bill, I hadn’t seen that particular page. As I mentioned already, the formerly clear “stuff” was so deteriorated I could just pull the glass plate off with gentle fingertip pressure. I ran a bead of clear silicone around the outside of the clean plate and CRT face and bonded them back

Re: ADM-3A question

2019-08-10 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Sat, Aug 10, 2019, 6:02 PM Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: > The clearing of the deteriorating adhesive is documented here and there on > the web, use heat to separate the outer from the inner screen. Remove the > inner screen and clean the gunk from the inside of the outer screen...in >

Re: ADM-3A question

2019-08-10 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
The clearing of the deteriorating adhesive is documented here and there on the web, use heat to separate the outer from the inner screen. Remove the inner screen and clean the gunk from the inside of the outer screen...in summary ...here are some details

Re: ADM-3A question

2019-08-10 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
upper  case is  default...   do you mean lower case?  Ed# In a message dated 8/10/2019 8:34:06 AM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk@classiccmp.org writes: I can fix the RAM problem once I can see what is actually on the screen! ;)Also the wire bracket with threaded ends that holds the flyback

Re: ADM-3A question

2019-08-10 Thread Charles via cctalk
On 8/10/19 8:33 AM, Charles via cctalk wrote: I also scrubbed off the black anti-reflective coating since it was significantly scratched and peeled anyway. um.. you didn't remove the aquadag from the outside of the crt, did you? No worries Al, I got my EE in '81 back when CRTs were still in

Re: ADM-3A question

2019-08-10 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 8/10/19 8:33 AM, Charles via cctalk wrote: > I also scrubbed off the black anti-reflective coating since it was > significantly scratched and peeled anyway. um.. you didn't remove the aquadag from the outside of the crt, did you?

Re: ADM-3A question

2019-08-10 Thread Charles via cctalk
I decided just to fire it up and see if anything blew... it issued the expected beep as it came up. Set the switch to half-duplex and it does actually echo bell (Ctrl-G) and I can see the screen moving as I type! But there is some kind of garbage every other row, although the cursor moves and