Re: H960 blank panel clips

2015-07-29 Thread Vincent Slyngstad
From: geneb: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 7:16 AM On Wed, 29 Jul 2015, Vincent Slyngstad wrote: Are you referring to the junction of the post and the block? That would be easy enough to do (though tedious in SketchUp). ...which is why SketchUp shouldn't be used for CAD work. If you're using

Re: H960 blank panel clips

2015-07-29 Thread Vincent Slyngstad
From: Pete Turnbull: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 7:05 AM One concern that I had was that the new design might end up trying to ovalize the (brittle) socket in the mating panel, since the new posts are only really compressible in one axis. I doubt that matters much either, because it's the posts

Re: H960 blank panel clips

2015-07-29 Thread geneb
I have a crufty old version of DesignSpark PCB. I'll have a look at Mechanical. It's basically SpaceClaim that's been tweaked to only output it's native file format and STL files. You should also do your design work in metric if you expect to be having parts printed. Scaling isn't a

RE: H960 blank panel clips

2015-07-29 Thread Dave G4UGM
-Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of quapla Sent: 29 July 2015 10:29 To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts cctalk@classiccmp.org Subject: Re: H960 blank panel clips On 2015-07-29 08:24, Vincent Slyngstad wrote: From

Re: H960 blank panel clips

2015-07-29 Thread Pete Turnbull
On 29/07/2015 07:24, Vincent Slyngstad wrote: I've placed a new design at: http://svn.so-much-stuff.com/svn/trunk/3D/rack-bracket/bracket-new.jpg I don't know if the design will work -- will the slit will provide enough flexibility, will the post crack, etc. That looks pretty good to me,

Re: H960 blank panel clips

2015-07-29 Thread Arno Kletzander
From: Charles Dickman: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 9:03 AM If the posts and balls are metal, the panel sockets are going to crack because there will not be any give in the shaft. If the ball and shaft is replaced with a solid pin, the panel sockets will get damaged because the socket will have to

Re: H960 blank panel clips

2015-07-29 Thread Pete Turnbull
On 29/07/2015 14:11, Vincent Slyngstad wrote: From: Pete Turnbull: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 2:57 AM Firstly, to add a small fillet to the junction of post and flat Are you referring to the junction of the post and the block? That would be easy enough to do (though tedious in SketchUp).

Re: H960 blank panel clips

2015-07-29 Thread geneb
On Wed, 29 Jul 2015, Vincent Slyngstad wrote: From: Pete Turnbull: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 2:57 AM On 29/07/2015 07:24, Vincent Slyngstad wrote: I've placed a new design at: http://svn.so-much-stuff.com/svn/trunk/3D/rack-bracket/bracket-new.jpg That looks pretty good to me, and the only

Re: H960 blank panel clips

2015-07-28 Thread quapla
On 2015-07-27 18:51, Vincent Slyngstad wrote: From: Noel Chiappa: Monday, July 27, 2015 8:58 AM Time to find someone who can do injection molding... (I don't think these could be 3D printed, the necks of the bulb-heads are under a lot of stress when removing panels, they often snap off; will

Re: H960 blank panel clips

2015-07-28 Thread Pete Turnbull
On 28/07/2015 17:52, Tothwolf wrote: If they are made of ABS and the ball isn't critical, why not mill or drill out a small bit of the broken stem and solvent weld in some round ABS stock to make a new stem? Methylene chloride (dichloromethane) works extremely well for ABS (methyl ethyl ketone

Re: H960 blank panel clips

2015-07-28 Thread Tothwolf
On Tue, 28 Jul 2015, Pete Turnbull wrote: On 27/07/2015 23:13, Tothwolf wrote: On Mon, 27 Jul 2015, John Wilson wrote: The only thing here is, it's a *terrible* design. Those damn nubs snap off so easily (I'm sure decades of outgassing haven't helped), even when you're expecting it and

Re: H960 blank panel clips

2015-07-28 Thread Pete Turnbull
On 28/07/2015 18:22, Vincent Slyngstad wrote: What do folks think of the idea of thickening the shaft, terminating it in a hemisphere, but then cutting half-way down the result with a Y or X shaped cut? The cut would hopefully allow the result to flex and taper into the socket, providing

Re: H960 blank panel clips

2015-07-28 Thread Al Kossow
On 7/28/15 10:22 AM, Vincent Slyngstad wrote: What do folks think of the idea of thickening the shaft, terminating it in a hemisphere, but then cutting half-way down the result with a Y or X shaped cut? The cut would hopefully allow the result to flex and taper into the socket, providing

Re: H960 blank panel clips

2015-07-28 Thread Vincent Slyngstad
From: Charles Dickman: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 9:03 AM If the posts and balls are metal, the panel sockets are going to crack because there will not be any give in the shaft. If the ball and shaft is replaced with a solid pin, the panel sockets will get damaged because the socket will have to

Re: H960 blank panel clips

2015-07-28 Thread Noel Chiappa
From: Chuck Guzis Does anyone have a photo or mechanical drawing of one of these things? There are several kinds. These: http://ana-3.lcs.mit.edu/~jnc/tech/pdp11/jpg/H960FrontPanelClips.jpg are some of the better ones; they are connected to the rack via countersunk screws (go in

Re: H960 blank panel clips

2015-07-27 Thread quapla
On 2015-07-27 17:58, j...@mercury.lcs.mit.edu wrote: Saw this auction for a pair of H960 blank front panel clips: http://www.ebay.com/itm/391207099375 and though I'd pick them up... until they went for $30 (including shipping),at which point I decided I'd go back to my previous plan to

RE: H960 blank panel clips

2015-07-27 Thread Jay West
Maybe a future possibility to have a (maybe Chinese) manufacturer make a batch of 1000, 2000 or maybe 1 clips with a type of plastic which is slightly more flexible so that they do not break off to quickly? I have no idea what current prices would be for this field of manufacturing

Re: H960 blank panel clips

2015-07-27 Thread Vincent Slyngstad
From: Noel Chiappa: Monday, July 27, 2015 8:58 AM Time to find someone who can do injection molding... (I don't think these could be 3D printed, the necks of the bulb-heads are under a lot of stress when removing panels, they often snap off; will 3D printed parts be that strong?) They are

Re: H960 blank panel clips

2015-07-27 Thread John Wilson
On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 11:58:36AM -0400, Noel Chiappa wrote: Saw this auction for a pair of H960 blank front panel clips: http://www.ebay.com/itm/391207099375 and though I'd pick them up... until they went for $30 (including shipping),at which point I decided I'd go back to my previous plan