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pic Posts" Subject: Re:
The best hard drives?? On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 09:36:00AM -0500, Bill
Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:[...]>>> It also turns out that £1 ≈ €1 ≈ $1.>
Close, but no cigar. I just bought something from Europe 3 days ago.This rule
of thumb only applies to stuf
On Fri, 20 Nov 2020, Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote:
> That same $100 widget imported into the UK becomes $120 due to the 20% VAT
> rate, which comes to £90, but the UK has its own self-inflicted problems which
> cause importers loads of extra costs and £100 is easily believable.
Don't forget a
On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 10:34:10AM +0100, mazzinia--- via cctalk wrote:
> Interesting read,
> What is your opinion of the Seagate exos 7e8 units ? (and does SED make any
> difference in ensuring a bit more quality of the platters)
I've not used them, but Exos disks ought to be be just fine. You d
On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 09:36:00AM -0500, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
[...]
>>> It also turns out that £1 ≈ €1 ≈ $1.
> Close, but no cigar. I just bought something from Europe 3 days ago.
This rule of thumb only applies to stuff imported from the USA to Europe, or
from anywhere to the UK. It
On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 02:54:27PM +0100, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
> Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote:
>> Five MyBooks bought 18 months ago had debranded He8 disks in there: very
>> nice.
>> The three Elements a few months back have (non-SMR) WD Reds in them, which is
>> OK. Three more are sup
On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 6:24 PM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On 11/18/20 8:16 PM, Warner Losh via cctalk wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 6:00 PM Paul Koning via cctalk <
> > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Nov 18, 2020, at 5:56 PM, Chuck Guzi
On 11/18/20 8:16 PM, Warner Losh via cctalk wrote:
On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 6:00 PM Paul Koning via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
On Nov 18, 2020, at 5:56 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
Tangential to this, I've long wondered about some things relating t
On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 6:00 PM Paul Koning via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>
> > On Nov 18, 2020, at 5:56 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >
> > Tangential to this, I've long wondered about some things relating to
> > SSDs. Are there any solid figures o
> On Nov 18, 2020, at 5:56 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> Tangential to this, I've long wondered about some things relating to
> SSDs. Are there any solid figures on their retention period after years
> of being unpowered?
>
> The reason I ask is that I've long been in the habit of
On 11/18/20 4:45 PM, mazzi...@tin.it wrote:
> https://www.elinfor.com/article/E/l/Electron%20and%20temperature%20diagram.jpg
>
> In theory.
> In any case it would not be wise to keep an ssd unpowered for various years.
Yech. So in, say, 5 years, you can call it "toast"?
--Chuck
: Steven M Jones via cctalk
Subject: Re: The best hard drives??
Tangential to this, I've long wondered about some things relating to SSDs. Are
there any solid figures on their retention period after years of being
unpowered?
The reason I ask is that I've long been in the habit of simply s
Chuck,
I am concerned about SSDs because thy can only be written to a
limited number of times. Spinning platters have unlimited write cycles
barring a hardware or electronics failure.
GOD Bless and Thanks,
rich!
On 11/18/2020 4:56 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
Tangential to this, I've
Tangential to this, I've long wondered about some things relating to
SSDs. Are there any solid figures on their retention period after years
of being unpowered?
The reason I ask is that I've long been in the habit of simply shelving
an old hard drive when I upgrade or replace a system. I've got
On 11/17/2020 7:09 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
On 11/17/20 8:53 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
Most "Merikens" just let the bank do the conversion when they buy
from overseas.
On 11/17/20 8:03 PM, Liam Proven wrote:
Argh! I was not posting to the list that I thought I was. I apol
On 11/16/20 7:27 PM, Richard Pope via cctalk wrote:
In the opinions of you experts out there considering reliability
being number one on the list with speed be number two on the list what
would you folks consider to be the best SATA drives on the market?
Not an expert, but I'm as depend
Paul,
You are entirely correct when it comes to temperature. Even ten or
20 degrees F can severely shorten the life of a HDD. It looks like I
will be getting HGST drives even though I have had some difficulties
with them.
GOD Bless and Thanks,
rich!
I don't have much to offer; my experie
> On Nov 18, 2020, at 4:53 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 18 Nov 2020, Ethan O'Toole via cctalk wrote:
Do you think that we can get back to the original question??
>>> Knowing this list, that won't happen.
>>
>> HGST!
>
> I apologize to Al for S/N ratio.
>
> I hone
On Wed, 18 Nov 2020, Ethan O'Toole via cctalk wrote:
Do you think that we can get back to the original question??
Knowing this list, that won't happen.
HGST!
I apologize to Al for S/N ratio.
I honestly have little or nothing to offer, but appreciate reading it -
lately I have had need
Do you think that we can get back to the original question??
Knowing this list, that won't happen.
HGST!
--
: Ethan O'Toole
On 11/18/20 8:57 AM, Richard Pope via cctalk wrote:
Do you think that we can get back to the original question??
Knowing this list, that won't happen.
Hello all,
Do you think that we can get back to the original question??
GOD Bless and Thanks,
rich!
On 11/18/2020 10:49 AM, Todd Goodman via cctalk wrote:
At least you didn't call us all "Merkins"...
On 11/17/2020 8:03 PM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 at 15:36, Bill Gu
On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 11:49:44AM -0500, Todd Goodman via cctalk wrote:
> At least you didn't call us all "Merkins"...
I've done that and yes before you ask I know what it means.
*whistles innocently*
_
- d...@freebsd.org d...@db.net http://www.db.net/~db
At least you didn't call us all "Merkins"...
On 11/17/2020 8:03 PM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 at 15:36, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
wrote:
Most "Merikens" just let the bank do the conversion when they buy
from overseas.
Argh! I was not posting to the list that I thought
On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 17:15, Diane Bruce wrote:
>
> My expat FIL was from Lancs. Good part is I learned how to make a decent pot
> of tea. The bad is, I couldn't understand him half the time.
Being from Lancashire myself, I can't see the problem, but the rest of
the UK regards us as impenetrable
On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 01:02:39PM +0100, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 02:53, Fred Cisin via cctalk
> wrote:
> >
> > Most of us "merkens" haven't truly mastered one language.
...
> "balm" and "psalm" is _no longer_ silent and is actively pronounced in
> some regions of th
On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 04:21, Tapley, Mark B. via cctalk
wrote:
>
> On Nov 17, 2020, at 7:03 PM, Liam Proven via cctalk
> mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote:
>
> Argh! I was not posting to the list that I thought I was. I apologise
> for using that nickname. :-(
>
> Liam, …. does it actually ma
On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 02:53, Fred Cisin via cctalk
wrote:
>
> Most of us "merkens" haven't truly mastered one language.
I was very surprised to discover a couple of years ago that many in
the USA pronounce "squirrel" as "skwerl". My surprise was subsequently
pushed to its limits when I discovere
On Nov 17, 2020, at 7:03 PM, Liam Proven via cctalk
mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote:
Argh! I was not posting to the list that I thought I was. I apologise
for using that nickname. :-(
Liam, …. does it actually make it better that you were posting to the wrong
list?
I say this without ranc
On 11/17/20 8:53 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
Most "Merikens" just let the bank do the conversion when they buy
from overseas.
On 11/17/20 8:03 PM, Liam Proven wrote:
Argh! I was not posting to the list that I thought I was. I apologise
for using that nickname. :-(
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020,
Most "Merikens" just let the bank do the conversion when they buy
from overseas.
On 11/17/20 8:03 PM, Liam Proven wrote:
Argh! I was not posting to the list that I thought I was. I apologise
for using that nickname. :-(
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
Don't feel bad u
On 11/17/20 8:03 PM, Liam Proven wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 at 15:36, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
wrote:
Most "Merikens" just let the bank do the conversion when they buy
from overseas.
Argh! I was not posting to the list that I thought I was. I apologise
for using that nickname. :-(
Don't
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 at 15:36, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
wrote:
>
> Most "Merikens" just let the bank do the conversion when they buy
> from overseas.
Argh! I was not posting to the list that I thought I was. I apologise
for using that nickname. :-(
--
Liam Proven – Profile: https://about.me/li
> > HGST. 4TB seem really good.
>
> or the equivalent Toshiba
>
> 4TB Hitachi drives have been REALLY reliable for me.
3rd (or fourth that). I have 20 of them in my NAS. Great drives. Seagate
enterprise drives have been good to me as well... but those are from a
different era when Seagate mad
On 11/16/20 9:37 PM, Ethan O'Toole via cctalk wrote:
HGST. 4TB seem really good.
or the equivalent Toshiba
4TB Hitachi drives have been REALLY reliable for me.
On Mon, 16 Nov 2020 21:27:45 -0600
Richard Pope via cctalk wrote:
> Hello all,
> In the opinions of you experts out there considering reliability
> being number one on the list with speed be number two on the list what
> would you folks consider to be the best SATA drives on the market?
>
On 11/17/20 8:54 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 at 10:26, Peter Corlett via cctalk
wrote:
Five MyBooks bought 18 months ago had debranded He8 disks in there: very nice.
The three Elements a few months back have (non-SMR) WD Reds in them, which is
OK. Three more are suppo
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 at 10:26, Peter Corlett via cctalk
wrote:
> Five MyBooks bought 18 months ago had debranded He8 disks in there: very nice.
> The three Elements a few months back have (non-SMR) WD Reds in them, which is
> OK. Three more are supposedly turning up tomorrow.
Oh blast, I wish I h
Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: The best hard drives??
On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 12:37:23AM -0500, Ethan O'Toole via cctalk wrote:
[...]
> HGST. 4TB seem really good.
I have a half-dozen of those in raidz2 on my workstation and can confirm. HGST
disks are good enough that W
On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 12:37:23AM -0500, Ethan O'Toole via cctalk wrote:
[...]
> HGST. 4TB seem really good.
I have a half-dozen of those in raidz2 on my workstation and can confirm. HGST
disks are good enough that WD bought them, declared them to be so good that
they are clearly Enterprise drive
On Mon, Nov 16, 2020, 10:37 PM Ethan O'Toole via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >In the opinions of you experts out there considering reliability
> being
> > number one on the list with speed be number two on the list what would
> you
> > folks consider to be the best SATA drives on
In the opinions of you experts out there considering reliability being
number one on the list with speed be number two on the list what would you
folks consider to be the best SATA drives on the market?
GOD Bless and Thanks,
rich!
HGST. 4TB seem really good.
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