On 01/19/2017 09:30 AM, geneb wrote:
If there's only one mirror, he's missing most of it then.
A Wide Angle Collimator (what they call the "single
channel" displays) has a partially-reflective first
surface mirror at a 45 degree angle (the beam splitter)
and a special curved mirror
On Wed, 18 Jan 2017, Jon Elson wrote:
Well, the aviation community is just INSANE over liability. And, since the
outfit that makes the wing marker lights gets sued many times when a light
plane goes down, even though the cause was pilot error, engine failure,
instrument failure, running out
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Chuck
> Guzis
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 9:09 AM
> ...
> I find it curious that what seems to be collected in the minicomputer area
> seems to be gear of major brands.
>
> Does anyone collect Varian minis?
> Or General
On 01/18/2017 12:45 PM, geneb wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jan 2017, Jon Elson wrote:
Wow, kind of surprised they were concerned about that.
Especially a 727 sim, who the heck is still flying THOSE??
They're pretty common in South America and some 3rd world
countries. I suspect it was 90% Boeing
On Wed, 18 Jan 2017, Jon Elson wrote:
Conductron-Missouri was an outfit that may have been started by ex-McDonnell
people, and did a large portion of their business supplying electronic
systems to McDonnell. It was later bought by McDonnell, and became McDonnell
Douglas Electronics Co.
Ahh,
On 01/18/2017 07:08 AM, geneb wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jan 2017, Jon Elson wrote:
On 01/17/2017 01:50 PM, geneb wrote:
I used to work on a 727 flight simulator that used a
Varian 620 to generate the visuals. The display was
capable of addressing 1024 points of light and that's
how the runways
On Tue, 17 Jan 2017, Jon Elson wrote:
On 01/17/2017 01:50 PM, geneb wrote:
I used to work on a 727 flight simulator that used a Varian 620 to generate
the visuals. The display was capable of addressing 1024 points of light
and that's how the runways and airport outline were drawn. Pretty
On Tue, 17 Jan 2017, Chuck Guzis wrote:
I find it curious that what seems to be collected in the minicomputer
area seems to be gear of major brands.
Me too :-)
Does anyone collect Varian minis?
Yes! We have a couple of Varian 620/f (some with expansion boxes)
Or General Automation?
On 01/17/2017 01:50 PM, geneb wrote:
I used to work on a 727 flight simulator that used a
Varian 620 to generate the visuals. The display was
capable of addressing 1024 points of light and that's how
the runways and airport outline were drawn. Pretty neat
stuff. Here's some pics of the
I had a DG Nova (guess one could call it a Nova 1) Loaned it to who I
though was a friend, he vanished one day. The Nova showed up at a
local surplus store but even though I had proof it was mine, I had the
release letter from the company I worked for and got it from, he would
not even sell it to
> On Jan 17, 2017, at 2:50 PM, geneb wrote:
>
> On Tue, 17 Jan 2017, Jon Elson wrote:
>
>> On 01/17/2017 11:09 AM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
>>> I find it curious that what seems to be collected in the minicomputer
>>> area seems to be gear of major brands.
>>> Does anyone
On Tue, 17 Jan 2017, Jon Elson wrote:
On 01/17/2017 11:09 AM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
I find it curious that what seems to be collected in the minicomputer
area seems to be gear of major brands.
Does anyone collect Varian minis?
I had a Varian 620F a long time ago. It was a whole bunch of
17, 2017 11:09 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk@classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you
own? [Tek 4132]
I find it curious that what seems to be collected in the minicomputer area
seems to be gear of major
On 1/17/17 9:09 AM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
> Does anyone collect Varian minis?
>
I had a few 620's, the most interesting was the 18-bit version.
No software to speak of for them. I even talked to the guy who ended up
supporting them down in LA when Sperry spit them out. The only thing he
had was
On 2017-Jan-17, at 9:13 AM, william degnan wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
>
>> I find it curious that what seems to be collected in the minicomputer
>> area seems to be gear of major brands.
>>
>> Does anyone collect Varian minis?
>> Or General
> On Jan 17, 2017, at 12:13 PM, william degnan wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
>
>> I find it curious that what seems to be collected in the minicomputer
>> area seems to be gear of major brands.
>>
>> Does anyone
On 01/17/2017 11:09 AM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
I find it curious that what seems to be collected in the minicomputer
area seems to be gear of major brands.
Does anyone collect Varian minis?
I had a Varian 620F a long time ago. It was a whole bunch
of wire-wrap boards. It sort of tried to work,
On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
> I find it curious that what seems to be collected in the minicomputer
> area seems to be gear of major brands.
>
> Does anyone collect Varian minis?
> Or General Automation?
> Or any one of the many non-DEC, HP, etc. minis?
I find it curious that what seems to be collected in the minicomputer
area seems to be gear of major brands.
Does anyone collect Varian minis?
Or General Automation?
Or any one of the many non-DEC, HP, etc. minis? Heck, I don't read much
about DG minis on this list--and they were a major force.
On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 07:27:00PM -0600, Jay West wrote:
> Yes. Please do!
>
> Pontus wrote...
> There is a system quite like it standing in the halls of the maths
> department here. I'll have to take a closer look next time I'm there.
>
I'll go there on thursday. I suspect it will be
From: allison
>
> The 32016 was not clocked very fast nor did it have any pipelines to
> speak of.
I recall the National dog-and-pony show guys showing up and having a
good long talk with them. The 320xx sounded like a very advanced chip
when compared with the usual 8086
From: Al Kossow
>
> That reminds me I need to dig out the Genix sources I have.
>
I'd really like to see that, if it ever came to light.
KJ
From: allison
>
>The 32016 was not clocked very fast nor did it have any pipelines to
>speak of.
True. And lots of interesting bugs; some show-stoppers in early steppings.
>If the 32016 had a second generation, some tweaks and faster process it
>might have had hope but like
Yes. Please do!
Pontus wrote...
There is a system quite like it standing in the halls of the maths
department here. I'll have to take a closer look next time I'm there.
/P
On 01/15/2017 08:23, Al Kossow wrote:
>
>
> On 1/14/17 7:20 PM, allison wrote:
>
>> If the 32016 had a second generation
>
> It had several generations. The 32532 saw some use in laser printers.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NS320xx
This kind of "buries the lead," however -- the NS32532
On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 10:20:56AM -0800, Al Kossow wrote:
>
>
> On 1/15/17 10:02 AM, Jay West wrote:
> > I'd have to say my HP-2000 systems that are running are the rarest that I'm
> > aware of.
> > So I fairly strongly suspect that my running HP-2000's are the only ones
> > left, anywhere.
>
On 01/15/2017 10:20 AM, Al Kossow wrote:
On 1/14/17 6:29 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
I got versions of Genix and Xenix with it.
Do you still have Xenix?
I don't think so, but I'll look a bit more. I may have
overwritten those with Genix.
I do have the 24 or so Genix install disks. These are 5.25"
On 1/15/17 10:02 AM, Jay West wrote:
> I'd have to say my HP-2000 systems that are running are the rarest that I'm
> aware of.
> So I fairly strongly suspect that my running HP-2000's are the only ones
> left, anywhere.
probably true.
> On 15 Jan 2017, at 17:23 , Al Kossow wrote:
>
>
>
> On 1/14/17 7:20 PM, allison wrote:
>
>> If the 32016 had a second generation
>
> It had several generations. The 32532 saw some use in laser printers.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NS320xx
I'd have to say my HP-2000 systems that are running are the rarest that I'm
aware of. I know of a few folks who have various bits and pieces towards
assembling one, but not complete. I know two collectors who (each) have most if
not all of the parts, but the systems are far from operational and
On 1/14/17 7:20 PM, allison wrote:
> If the 32016 had a second generation
It had several generations. The 32532 saw some use in laser printers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NS320xx
On 1/14/17 6:29 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
>
> I got versions of Genix and Xenix with it.
Do you still have Xenix?
That reminds me I need to dig out the Genix sources I have.
There were a couple of companies that made PC cards with the chipset on it, and
once company that made a Q-Bus
I dug out the boards that I have to dump the eproms, and a while back put up
what I had for schematics on bitsavers.
On 1/14/17 3:40 PM, Rick Bensene wrote:
>
>
>> From: "Rick Bensene"
>>> - A Tektronix 4132 Unix workstation using a National 32016 CPU and a
>>> 4.2bsd
On 01/14/2017 09:29 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
>
> On 01/14/2017 05:40 PM, Rick Bensene wrote:
>>
>>> From: "Rick Bensene"
- A Tektronix 4132 Unix workstation using a National 32016 CPU and a
4.2bsd port called UTek
>> Jon wrote:
>>
>>> Gee, how does it perform? I
I initially wrote in response to this thread:
- A Tektronix 4132 Unix workstation using a National 32016 CPU and
a 4.2bsd port called UTek
>> Jon responded:
>>
>>> Gee, how does it perform? I built a clone of a Logical Microcomputer Co.
>>> 32016 Multibus system and got it working.
On 01/14/2017 05:40 PM, Rick Bensene wrote:
From: "Rick Bensene"
- A Tektronix 4132 Unix workstation using a National 32016 CPU and a
4.2bsd port called UTek
Jon wrote:
Gee, how does it perform? I built a clone of a Logical Microcomputer Co. 32016
Multibus system
> From: "Rick Bensene"
>> - A Tektronix 4132 Unix workstation using a National 32016 CPU and a
>> 4.2bsd port called UTek
>>
Jon wrote:
>Gee, how does it perform? I built a clone of a Logical Microcomputer Co.
>32016 Multibus system and got it working.
>But, it was
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