Re: That Tek 405x QIC Tape.

2017-10-04 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Tue, 3 Oct 2017, Al Kossow wrote: As far as I know, no one has successfully made a copy of a Tek cartridge tape in an image format. The tapes use two tracks, one for clock and one for data. Encoding beyond that has not been determined. I still have I can backup Tek405x tapes. Our 4051 has

Re: That Tek 405x QIC Tape.

2017-10-03 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 10/3/17 8:29 AM, Mike Stein via cctalk wrote: > Sounds like a similar system to what Burroughs used on their cassettes; I > always thought that they'd be a lot easier to read than the 'normal' formats > with embedded clock signals and always intended to try to read some of the > tapes I

Re: That Tek 405x QIC Tape.

2017-10-03 Thread Mike Stein via cctalk
- Original Message - From: "Al Kossow via cctalk" <cctalk@classiccmp.org> To: <cctalk@classiccmp.org> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2017 11:06 AM Subject: Re: That Tek 405x QIC Tape. > > > On 10/3/17 2:50 AM, Jos Dreesen via cctalk wrote: > >&g

Re: That Tek 405x QIC Tape.

2017-10-03 Thread Jos Dreesen via cctalk
On 03.10.2017 16:59, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: On 10/3/17 2:50 AM, Jos Dreesen via cctalk wrote: That "famous" QIC tape unit Tektronix 405x tapes aren't QIC They are 3M DC series cartridges, but the encoding is not a QIC standard. The problems, alas, are the same.

Re: That Tek 405x QIC Tape.

2017-10-03 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 10/3/17 2:50 AM, Jos Dreesen via cctalk wrote: > Al is maintaining a set of ROM images for these machines, are tape images > covered somewhere  ? > Do we have an fixed tape image format, as has been done with Dave's IMD for > floppies ? As far as I know, no one has successfully made a

Re: That Tek 405x QIC Tape.

2017-10-03 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 10/3/17 2:50 AM, Jos Dreesen via cctalk wrote: > That "famous" QIC tape unit Tektronix 405x tapes aren't QIC They are 3M DC series cartridges, but the encoding is not a QIC standard.

That Tek 405x QIC Tape.

2017-10-03 Thread Jos Dreesen via cctalk
That "famous" QIC tape unit ...has been talked about a lot, still some things are still not clear to me. Baking : is this a last-resort means of reading some valuable tape, or a means to restore them for a further few years of usage ? I intend to bake mine before usage, although a few