Re: The Ultimate Apollo Guidance Computer Talk

2018-09-19 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Thu, 20 Sep 2018, Andrew Luke Nesbit via cctalk wrote: Have you got any interesting examples of where the 6502 is used in contemporary work or new projects? Thanks!! It will be around for a while. Bender on Futurama has a 6502.

Re: The Ultimate Apollo Guidance Computer Talk

2018-09-19 Thread Jim Brain via cctalk
On 9/19/2018 6:27 PM, Andrew Luke Nesbit via cctalk wrote: On 19/09/2018 17:51, Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk wrote: I worked with Michael when we were both at Apple (a really good/smart guy). At the time he was focused on 6502 related stuff and we had many discussions about old hardware.

Re: The Ultimate Apollo Guidance Computer Talk

2018-09-19 Thread Andrew Luke Nesbit via cctalk
On 19/09/2018 17:51, Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk wrote: > I worked with Michael when we were both at Apple (a really good/smart guy). > At the time > he was focused on 6502 related stuff and we had many discussions about old > hardware. All of my knowledge of the 6502 comes from my time with

Re: The Ultimate Apollo Guidance Computer Talk

2018-09-19 Thread Anders Nelson via cctalk
I watched the whole thing but skipped the more typical instruction explanations. Absolutely mind-blowing, hats off to you! On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 1:00 PM Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > > On Sep 19, 2018, at 1:24 AM, CuriousMarc via cctalk < >

Re: The Ultimate Apollo Guidance Computer Talk

2018-09-19 Thread Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk
> On Sep 19, 2018, at 1:24 AM, CuriousMarc via cctalk > wrote: > > >> On Sep 18, 2018, at 8:44 PM, Steve Malikoff via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> Haven't watched this video yet but am keen to do so as "ultimate" is a bold >> claim to make. >> > > This an outstanding presentation. The bold

Re: The Ultimate Apollo Guidance Computer Talk

2018-09-19 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Cory Heisterkamp > I can also highly recommend the book 'Digital Apollo' Yes, it's quite good. Two other good books about the AGC are: Eldon Hall, "Journey to the Moon" which is by a guy who was one of the managers on the project. The book is anything but a 'management

Re: The Ultimate Apollo Guidance Computer Talk

2018-09-19 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 at 10:24, CuriousMarc via cctalk wrote: > > This an outstanding presentation. The bold claim is actually somewhat > justified... I am very glad to hear that. The comparison that sprang to mind, actually, was your wonderful series of Alto restoration videos, which I have

Re: The Ultimate Apollo Guidance Computer Talk

2018-09-19 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 at 05:02, Cory Heisterkamp wrote: > > Liam, thanks for posting this. What a wonderful way to waste an hour. ; ) > > I can also highly recommend the book 'Digital Apollo', which goes into some > detail about the man-machine interface of the AGC and the internal debate at >

Re: The Ultimate Apollo Guidance Computer Talk

2018-09-19 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 at 19:37, Paul Koning wrote: > > Yes. But it's actually 12 k of ROM if I remember right, and that was > expanded further later on. Well, yes. I was oversimplifying things a little by talking about the base, un-bank-switched space. (I copied-and-pasted a FB "Vintage Computer

Re: The Ultimate Apollo Guidance Computer Talk

2018-09-19 Thread CuriousMarc via cctalk
> On Sep 18, 2018, at 8:44 PM, Steve Malikoff via cctalk > wrote: > > Haven't watched this video yet but am keen to do so as "ultimate" is a bold > claim to make. > This an outstanding presentation. The bold claim is actually somewhat justified... Marc

Re: The Ultimate Apollo Guidance Computer Talk

2018-09-18 Thread Steve Malikoff via cctalk
Cory said > Liam, thanks for posting this. What a wonderful way to waste an hour. ; ) > > I can also highly recommend the book 'Digital Apollo', which goes into some > detail about the man-machine interface of the AGC and the internal debate at > the time of the role of man as "spacecraft

Re: The Ultimate Apollo Guidance Computer Talk

2018-09-18 Thread Cory Heisterkamp via cctalk
Liam, thanks for posting this. What a wonderful way to waste an hour. ; ) I can also highly recommend the book 'Digital Apollo', which goes into some detail about the man-machine interface of the AGC and the internal debate at the time of the role of man as "spacecraft pilot". -C On Sep 18,

Re: The Ultimate Apollo Guidance Computer Talk

2018-09-18 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 09/18/2018 12:28 PM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: Amazingly detailed 1hr talk about the Apollo Guidance Computer. It's stunning how much they got into mid-1960s technology: 1 MHz hand-made processor, 1 k of RAM, 4 k of ROM, and bank-switching, with a fault-tolerant multitasking OS with an

Re: The Ultimate Apollo Guidance Computer Talk

2018-09-18 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Sep 18, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Liam Proven via cctalk > wrote: > > Amazingly detailed 1hr talk about the Apollo Guidance Computer. It's > stunning how much they got into mid-1960s technology: 1 MHz hand-made > processor, 1 k of RAM, 4 k of ROM, and bank-switching, with a > fault-tolerant

The Ultimate Apollo Guidance Computer Talk

2018-09-18 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
Amazingly detailed 1hr talk about the Apollo Guidance Computer. It's stunning how much they got into mid-1960s technology: 1 MHz hand-made processor, 1 k of RAM, 4 k of ROM, and bank-switching, with a fault-tolerant multitasking OS with an interpreted metalanguage. Absolutely stunning.