On Fri, 10 Jun 2016, Dave Wade wrote:
> > You can surely get a proper Linux support contract -- proper as in: if
> you
> > trigger a bug (which may be anything from a protocol violation, through a
> > security hole, to a crash) in the kernel or other core component, then you
> can
> > log it with
> > What would you expect. Properly maintained, managed enterprise and
> > locked down Windows/7 is solid and reliable.
> > In the UK it is hard to use Linux in the "Public Sector" and in the UK
> > most Hospitals are Public Sector.
> > You can use Linux BUT you must have a support contract in pla
On Fri, 27 May 2016, Dave Wade wrote:
> > It makes me wonder how many patients have had to wait on care or didn't
> get
> > proper care because of an IT screwup related to Windows. I have to say
> just
> > _seeing_ Windows on machines in the ER made me livid. I found it
> breathtaking
> > they wer
>Message: 111
> Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 09:18:11 -0700 (PDT)
> From: geneb
> What I don't understand is why Windows is being used on these devices at
> all. It specifically states in the license that it's not to be used with
> life-critical systems or infrastructure (like nuclear plants). I wish
> What I don't understand is why Windows is being used on these devices
> at all. It specifically states in the license that it's not to be used
> with life-critical systems or infrastructure (like nuclear plants). I
> wish I could find a reference - I can't recall where I read that...
Well, non
On Fri, 27 May 2016, Toby Thain wrote:
On 2016-05-27 8:38 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
You can hardly blame windows for the stupidity of people. This could also
happen w/ discreet stupid devices
One word: Therac.
Therac is not the same threat at all. What seems to be missing from the
process
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> McWhirter
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> Subject: Re: Windows use in medical spaces (Re: vintage computers in active
> use)
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>
>
> Where Window
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: 28 May 2016 01:56
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> Stoness
> Sent: 28 May 2016 00:38
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> us
get about them sometimes.
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From: Rod Smallwood
Date: 5/27/2016 5:37 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
Subject: Re: Windows use in medical spaces (Re: vintage computers i
> > (I was already notorious for refusing to switch to Microsoft Outlook; I
> > read my mail on-spool, as God intended, over a terminal window.)
>
> Damn straight! Check my mail headers and you'll find Alpine :-)
I still use the same Elm binary I built on the admin RS/6000 and used on my
Apple N
> > You can hardly blame windows for the stupidity of people. This could
> > also happen w/ discreet stupid devices
>
> One word: Therac.
Yes!
-Ali
On 2016-05-27 8:38 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
You can hardly blame windows for the stupidity of people. This could also
happen w/ discreet stupid devices
One word: Therac.
Therac is not the same threat at all. What seems to be missing from the
process that leads to specifying Windows is, ind
> During my consultant slut days, I was tasked with building the ODBC backend
> for a campus resource management system and the vendor specified SQL Server,
> so that's what I did. After I hung up my hat on that job, Code Red blew
s/Code Red/Nimda/
They got hit by Code Red, too, but I wasn't arou
> > I wrote time and mission critical food distribution related software for
> > the ten years before I retired in vb and then vb.net (oo) I would have
> > seen just about every possible bug in windows and in developing
> > applications under it.
>
> You are probably a good coder who knows how
> You can hardly blame windows for the stupidity of people. This could also
> happen w/ discreet stupid devices
One word: Therac.
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On 27/05/2016 23:11, Swift Griggs wrote:
On Fri, 27 May 2016, Rod Smallwood wrote:
Please can we have some specific instances of Windows causing problems.
Windows 95 - 98 either blue screened or locked up daily, no matter what
you did. In fact, IIRC, there was a timer bug that would _insure_
On 2016-05-27 7:37 PM, Ali wrote:
After all, what could possibly go wrong?
http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/05/faulty-av-scan-disrupts-
patients-heart-procedure-when-monitor-goes-black/
To quote your article:
"Based upon the available information, the cause for the reported event was due
crypto locker on linux would work if someone exicuted it but then that
would be a user fail like most people who get infected from going to the
wrong sites and clicking crap...
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 6:05 PM, Dave Wade wrote:
> > Please can we have some specific instances of Windows causing
> After all, what could possibly go wrong?
>
> http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/05/faulty-av-scan-disrupts-
> patients-heart-procedure-when-monitor-goes-black/
To quote your article:
"Based upon the available information, the cause for the reported event was due
to the customer not followin
On 2016-05-27 5:04 PM, Ali wrote:
It makes me wonder how many patients have had to wait on care or didn't
get proper care because of an IT screwup related to Windows. I have to
say just _seeing_ Windows on machines in the ER made me livid. I found
it breathtaking they were that caviler about ge
> Please can we have some specific instances of Windows causing problems.
> Not unqualified people at home or students but real production
environments
> with qualified support on hand.
> I used every version of windows from 1 to 10. yes XP and millennium too
>
It is susceptible to MalWare of a
On Fri, 27 May 2016, Rod Smallwood wrote:
> Please can we have some specific instances of Windows causing problems.
Windows 95 - 98 either blue screened or locked up daily, no matter what
you did. In fact, IIRC, there was a timer bug that would _insure_ the
system couldn't stay up for more than
On 27/05/2016 22:04, Ali wrote:
It makes me wonder how many patients have had to wait on care or didn't
get proper care because of an IT screwup related to Windows. I have to
say just _seeing_ Windows on machines in the ER made me livid. I found
it breathtaking they were that caviler about g
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Fred
Cisin
> Sent: 27 May 2016 22:05
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> Subject: RE: Windows use in medical spaces (Re: vintage computers in
active
> use)
&g
> And nobody - *ever* - plugs a USB stick into them. Or puts them on a
> LAN with machines that people shove USB sticks into.
No they don't because they don't have LAN ports or USB ports - at least not
one's easily accessible by RNs/MDs/etc. They are single purpose machines
that are locked down v
> On May 27, 2016, at 2:04 PM, Ali wrote:
>
> I would say very few. You have to remember critical systems are not running
> a general windows system i.e. people are not surfing the web on them and
> installing the latest games recommended by friends from facebook. Windows on
> its own is very st
On Fri, 27 May 2016, Dave Wade wrote:
> What would you expect. Properly maintained, managed enterprise and
> locked down Windows/7 is solid and reliable.
My ER experience was back in the Windows XP days. I have noticed 7 seems
pretty stable if you can keep M$ from tricking you into upgrading to
In the ER, they handed me a tiny tablet (2" x 6"?) and asked me to sign my
name.
"Why?"
"So that we can paste your signature into all of the documents. Would you
like a copy of the papers that we sign your name to?"
After that, Windows seems perfectly suited.
What would you expect. Properly
> It makes me wonder how many patients have had to wait on care or didn't
> get proper care because of an IT screwup related to Windows. I have to
> say just _seeing_ Windows on machines in the ER made me livid. I found
> it breathtaking they were that caviler about getting people checked in,
> k
>
> It makes me wonder how many patients have had to wait on care or didn't
get
> proper care because of an IT screwup related to Windows. I have to say
just
> _seeing_ Windows on machines in the ER made me livid. I found it
breathtaking
> they were that caviler about getting people checked in, ke
On Fri, 27 May 2016, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
> (I was already notorious for refusing to switch to Microsoft Outlook; I
> read my mail on-spool, as God intended, over a terminal window.)
Damn straight! Check my mail headers and you'll find Alpine :-)
> Fast-forward to fall 2003, when I was now a st
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