Re: email gripe

2015-07-08 Thread Peter Coghlan
jwsmobile j...@jwsss.com wrote: On 7/7/2015 12:43 PM, Sean Conner wrote: It was thus said that the Great jwsmobile once stated: sending live URL's in the text that don't require a multi step copy paste, or even save email edit, feed to lynx would be nice. Html email does that. There are

Re: email gripe

2015-07-08 Thread geneb
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Re: email gripe

2015-07-08 Thread Fred Cisin
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you! :-) We had some difficulties with college administrators that resulted in, The question is not 'are you paranoid?'; the question is 'are you paranoid enough?' (There is no expectation of privacy for any actions taken on the

Re: email gripe

2015-07-08 Thread Dave Woyciesjes
On 07/07/2015 11:24 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: On 07/07/2015 07:27 PM, wulfman wrote: yes html email gets deleted for the most part I don't have that option--customers send whatever they want. Another annoyance is when they send attachments in that Outlook winmail.dat format. I think that Libre

Re: email gripe

2015-07-08 Thread Dave Woyciesjes
On 07/07/2015 09:06 PM, Sean Conner wrote: ...But I've tried using a GUI to check email and frankly, I found it too painful to use. It wasn't that the GUI was confusing or inconsistent, but that it was *way too slow*. Sluggish to display, and painfully slow to download (it's not unusual

Re: email gripe

2015-07-08 Thread Dave Woyciesjes
On 07/08/2015 10:25 AM, Todd Goodman wrote: * Dave Woyciesjes woycies...@sbcglobal.net [150708 10:17]: On 07/07/2015 07:18 PM, Vincent Slyngstad wrote: From: jwsmobile: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 3:43 PM If there were a technical reason to keep it in a simple format that would be fine, but as Al

Re: email gripe

2015-07-08 Thread Mouse
Listen, if they want to track watch you, they're doing it already. Using text-only email won't help much; give it up. While I didn't write the text (which I cut) that the above quote is responding to, I too stick to text-only for security reasons - but not just because of the them watching and

Re: email gripe

2015-07-08 Thread Sean Conner
It was thus said that the Great Dave Woyciesjes once stated: On 07/07/2015 09:06 PM, Sean Conner wrote: ...But I've tried using a GUI to check email and frankly, I found it too painful to use. It wasn't that the GUI was confusing or inconsistent, but that it was *way too slow*. Sluggish

Re: email gripe

2015-07-08 Thread Fred Cisin
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you! :-) On Wed, 8 Jul 2015, Fred Cisin wrote: We had some difficulties with college administrators that resulted in, The question is not 'are you paranoid?'; the question is 'are you paranoid enough?' (There is no expectation of

OT Re: email gripe

2015-07-08 Thread Vincent Slyngstad
From: Dave Woyciesjes: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 7:17 AM Ahh, the sweet smell of paranoia... :) Listen, if they want to track watch you, they're doing it already. Using text-only email won't help much; give it up. Oh, they are out to get me, alright. They've admitted as much repeatedly.

OT: Re: email gripe

2015-07-08 Thread Vincent Slyngstad
From: jwsmobile: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 5:47 PM On 7/7/2015 4:18 PM, Vincent Slyngstad wrote: I might want to follow your link, if I have sufficient interest and trust, but I want to have to make that decision *before* entering the spy filled, all-singing, all-dancing hype arena. I agree

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread jwsmobile
sending live URL's in the text that don't require a multi step copy paste, or even save email edit, feed to lynx would be nice. Html email does that. thanks Jim On 7/7/2015 7:44 AM, dwight wrote: What happened to email. If your into looking at something, look at the source of this simple

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread Mouse
sending live URL's in the text that don't require a multi step copy paste, or even save email edit, feed to lynx would be nice. This is a client-side issue; there is no need to uglify the rest of the email just because someone has an email reader that doesn't know what to do with URLs. Html

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread Sean Conner
It was thus said that the Great jwsmobile once stated: sending live URL's in the text that don't require a multi step copy paste, or even save email edit, feed to lynx would be nice. Html email does that. There are some on this list (such as I) that do not use a graphical email client,

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread Vincent Slyngstad
From: jwsmobile: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 3:43 PM If there were a technical reason to keep it in a simple format that would be fine, but as Al K pointed out quite some time ago, Google already indexes all of this quite fine as it and most search engines do, so the list is text searchable. For

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 07/07/2015 03:43 PM, jwsmobile wrote: I just don't see inconveniencing an entire list because a few people want to run on internet connected 286 machines, with attached ASR33's. And to say that should carry much weight on selecting the format of the email is pretty inconsiderate to

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread Chris Elmquist
On Tuesday (07/07/2015 at 04:18PM -0700), Vincent Slyngstad wrote: For me, HTML mail is disdained because it's a security nightmare. I don't want to worry about transparent tracking images, cookies, javascript, and who knows what else they've invented or will invent. I just want to read

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread Chris Osborn
On Jul 7, 2015, at 4:18 PM, Chuck Guzis ccl...@sydex.com wrote: using Thunderbird Which I’ve noticed has problems parsing the General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts cctalk@classiccmp.org No matter which platform anyone is using, it’s always Thunderbird that creates the

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread Dale H. Cook
At 07:18 PM 7/7/2015, Vincent Slyngstad wrote: For me, HTML mail is disdained because it's a security nightmare. I don't want to worry about transparent tracking images, cookies, javascript, and who knows what else they've invented or will invent. That is one reason why I still run Eudora Pro,

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread Sean Conner
It was thus said that the Great jwsmobile once stated: On 7/7/2015 12:43 PM, Sean Conner wrote: It was thus said that the Great jwsmobile once stated: sending live URL's in the text that don't require a multi step copy paste, or even save email edit, feed to lynx would be nice. Html email

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread John Robertson
On 07/07/2015 4:44 PM, Chris Osborn wrote: On Jul 7, 2015, at 4:18 PM, Chuck Guzis ccl...@sydex.com wrote: using Thunderbird Which I’ve noticed has problems parsing the General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts cctalk@classiccmp.org No matter which platform anyone is using,

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread jwsmobile
On 7/7/2015 5:43 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: On Jul 7, 2015, at 3:43 PM, jwsmobile j...@jwsss.com wrote: If there were a technical reason to keep it in a simple format that would be fine, but as Al K pointed out quite some time ago, Google already indexes all of this quite fine as it and

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread jwsmobile
On 7/7/2015 6:14 PM, Chris Osborn wrote: Begin forwarded message: From: John Robertson pinb...@telus.net Subject: Re: email gripe Date: July 7, 2015 at 6:03:49 PM PDT To: gene...@classiccmp.org, discuss...@classiccmp.org:On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts cctalk@classiccmp.org Reply-To: pinb

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread wulfman
yes html email gets deleted for the most part On 7/7/2015 7:13 PM, Jay West wrote: Chris wrote... Boy, count another vote against HTML-izing this list if that's what's being considered. - No, forcing the list to send email as HTML has never been done, nor is it being considered. I do

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 07/07/2015 06:41 PM, jwsmobile wrote: Thunderbird does have a bad habit of interpolating and remembering typos, however, so if you at some point in time type in gene...@classicmp.org, there is an entry in the Thunderbird address book called collected addresses. It may have your general @

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread jwsmobile
On 7/7/2015 4:18 PM, Vincent Slyngstad wrote: From: jwsmobile: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 3:43 PM If there were a technical reason to keep it in a simple format that would be fine, but as Al K pointed out quite some time ago, Google already indexes all of this quite fine as it and most search

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread Chris Osborn
Begin forwarded message: From: John Robertson pinb...@telus.net Subject: Re: email gripe Date: July 7, 2015 at 6:03:49 PM PDT To: gene...@classiccmp.org, discuss...@classiccmp.org:On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts cctalk@classiccmp.org Reply-To: pinb...@telus.net, General Discussion

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 07/07/2015 07:27 PM, wulfman wrote: yes html email gets deleted for the most part I don't have that option--customers send whatever they want. Another annoyance is when they send attachments in that Outlook winmail.dat format. I think that Libre office can open it. --Chuck

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread Fred Cisin
On Tue, 7 Jul 2015, Chuck Guzis wrote: Let's see if my reply has the same problem as Chris cited. Yep! It took General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts cctalk@classiccmp.org and parsed it into: gene...@classiccmp.org, discuss...@classiccmp.org:On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts

Re: email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 07/07/2015 08:29 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: On Tue, 7 Jul 2015, Chuck Guzis wrote: Let's see if my reply has the same problem as Chris cited. Yep! It took General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts cctalk@classiccmp.org and parsed it into: gene...@classiccmp.org,

email gripe

2015-07-07 Thread dwight
What happened to email. If your into looking at something, look at the source of this simple email. What is all that html code for? This is just a few simple text strings with nothing special needed. Dwight