im in wpg canada and can see it through rogers mobile
On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 8:25 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
> On 09/15/2015 12:11 PM, Gary Oliver wrote:
>
>> I don't know if anyone got to the bottom of this blockage, but I noticed
>> this morning that the site "members.iinet.net.au" is now accessib
On 09/15/2015 12:11 PM, Gary Oliver wrote:
I don't know if anyone got to the bottom of this blockage,
but I noticed this morning that the site
"members.iinet.net.au" is now accessible from my comcast
(oregon) location. It's still broken elsewhere because
few of the sites I visited that should
I don't know if anyone got to the bottom of this blockage, but I noticed
this morning that the site "members.iinet.net.au" is now accessible from
my comcast (oregon) location. It's still broken elsewhere because few
of the sites I visited that should be on the ring have working webring
links,
alf Of Sean
> Caron
> Sent: 11 September 2015 16:08
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> ; Sean Caron
> Subject: Re: internet blocking problem ?
>
> Me too, especially as a working sys admin ... the business model is not really
> original ... just the
Per your request, I tried the URL:
http://members.iinet.net.au/~daveb/simplex/simplex.html
I did the search you requested, and tried the following URLs:
http://members.iinet.com.au/~stepho/mick.htm
http://members.iinet.net.au/~pontipak/redsquare.html
http://members.iinet.net.au/~p
On 09/11/2015 10:27 AM, Paul Koning wrote:
FWIW: when I run into a web site issue due to filtering (or suspicion of same),
I got to TOR. Apart from the confidentiality benefits it offers, you also get
access from a completely different part of the world. An unpredictable place,
admittedly.
Me too, especially as a working sys admin ... the business model is not
really original ... just the old time "service bureau" or "timesharing
company" but we have to have a hip new marketing catchname for it, LOL...
Well, if I've learned one thing, the computer industry is kind of like the
fashion
On 9/11/2015 8:39 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2015-09-11 16:36, Noel Chiappa wrote:
> From: Jon Elson elson
> I actually LIKED the PDP-11 architecture quite a LOT, but the
limited
> memory was a big killer.
The good thing about the PDP-11 was the 16-bit word size. (It resulte
On 9/11/2015 11:58 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote:
> > From: Jon Elson
>
> > so MANY others who could not access the members.iinet page were finding
> > they got stopped at cogentco.
>^^^
>
> Well, to be precise 'Cogentco was the last node on the route which
On 9/11/2015 10:52 AM, Paul Koning wrote:
>
>> On Sep 11, 2015, at 11:40 AM, Jay Jaeger wrote:
>>
>>
>> I cannot make a connection. My DNS is able to resolve the address.
>>
>
> I saw the same sort of thing but I let traceroute keep running. The result
> is that it started giving real answers
> From: Johnny Billquist
> it really is a few bits short of perfect ...
> .. when you look at the EIS and FPP extensions, which could not
> retain the general instruction layout format because of a lack of bits.
Well, if they'd tried to keep the same general layout, I don't think
> From: Jon Elson
> so MANY others who could not access the members.iinet page were finding
> they got stopped at cogentco.
^^^
Well, to be precise 'Cogentco was the last node on the route which
responded'.
It's impossible to say whether i) that node to
Works fine, save for the individual web-ring pages not being able to
populate the buttons correctly. Going directly to a members... page does
work from this proxy.
-Gary
On 09/11/2015 09:40 AM, Gary Oliver wrote:
I fired up a proxy on amazon ec2 virginia this morning and it works
fine from th
> "There is no such thing as 'the cloud', it's just someone else's
> computer."
>
> Love that quote... so true... and I sell cloud services ;)
Jay,
I am going to have to use that quote with my friends who like having their life
on the cloud...
-Ali
I fired up a proxy on amazon ec2 virginia this morning and it works fine
from there. Strange geographic filtering...
-Gary
On 09/10/2015 09:11 PM, Gary Oliver wrote:
The amazon instance is in the US West region (north-central Oregon I
presume.)
Tomorrow I'll fire up a proxy on the east coast
> - Original Message -
> From: "Paul Koning"
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> Sent: Friday, 11 September, 2015 4:58:41 PM
> I agree. You can use overlays on any hardware platform that has random
> access secondary storage.
> You need it if your programs are
> On Sep 11, 2015, at 11:52 AM, Paul Koning wrote:
>
>
>> On Sep 11, 2015, at 11:40 AM, Jay Jaeger wrote:
>>
>> On 9/10/2015 8:32 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> So, I wonder if I can ask classiccmp members, especially in the US, to
>>> check if they can view this page:
>>> http://members.i
> On Sep 11, 2015, at 11:41 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>
> ...
> Overlays were a way to try getting around the address space limitations. I
> still would not consider overlays as any part of the PDP-11 architecture. But
> maybe that is just me.
I agree. You can use overlays on any hardware
> On Sep 11, 2015, at 11:40 AM, Jay Jaeger wrote:
>
> On 9/10/2015 8:32 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
>
>>
>> So, I wonder if I can ask classiccmp members, especially in the US, to
>> check if they can view this page:
>> http://members.iinet.net.au/~daveb/simplex/simplex.html
>>
>>
>
> I cannot make
On 2015-09-11 17:33, Warner Losh wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 9:19 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2015-09-11 16:49, Warner Losh wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 8:39 AM, Johnny Billquist
wrote:
On 2015-09-11 16:36, Noel Chiappa wrote:
> From: Jon Elson elson
> I actually
On 2015-09-11 17:28, Paul Koning wrote:
On Sep 11, 2015, at 11:23 AM, Warner Losh wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Paul Koning wrote:
...
For efficient overlays, RT-11 with Link tends to be better. It's less
flexible but that reduced flexibility enforces more care in overlay design
On 9/10/2015 8:32 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
>
> So, I wonder if I can ask classiccmp members, especially in the US, to
> check if they can view this page:
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~daveb/simplex/simplex.html
>
>
I cannot make a connection. My DNS is able to resolve the address.
ISP is Charte
On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 9:19 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
> On 2015-09-11 16:49, Warner Losh wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 8:39 AM, Johnny Billquist
>> wrote:
>>
>> On 2015-09-11 16:36, Noel Chiappa wrote:
>>>
>>> > From: Jon Elson elson
> I actually LIKED the PDP-11 a
> On Sep 11, 2015, at 11:23 AM, Warner Losh wrote:
>
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Paul Koning wrote:
>
>> ...
>> For efficient overlays, RT-11 with Link tends to be better. It's less
>> flexible but that reduced flexibility enforces more care in overlay design,
>> and the implementation
>>
>> On Thu, 10 Sep 2015 20:32:11 -0500
>> Jon Elson wrote:
>>
>>> Hello, all,
>>>
>>> I am a member of the Homebuilt CPU web-ring, and a really
>>> weird problem has turned up. The guy who administers the
>>> ring, David Brooks, is in Australia, and uses iinet.net.au
>>> as his ISP. All
On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Paul Koning wrote:
>
> > On Sep 11, 2015, at 10:49 AM, Warner Losh wrote:
> >
> > ...
> > I loved the PDP-11 architecture, until I wanted to run programs on it
> that
> > relied on the overlay manager and the overlays got to be 8 or 9 deep.
> Then
> > it was... p
THANKS to all of you great guys who have helped obtain data
on this problem!
Here are some results:
For 26 users in the US and Canada, I get 11 that worked OK,
and 14 that did not work. Of the 14 that did not work,
6 (including me) got stopped at cogentco.
It seems that users in other countr
On 2015-09-11 16:49, Warner Losh wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 8:39 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2015-09-11 16:36, Noel Chiappa wrote:
> From: Jon Elson elson
> I actually LIKED the PDP-11 architecture quite a LOT, but the
limited
> memory was a big killer.
The good th
On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 08:32:11PM -0500, Jon Elson wrote:
> So, I wonder if I can ask classiccmp members, especially in the US, to check
> if they can view this page:
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~daveb/simplex/simplex.html
The other day I was trying to access David Green's pages there.
I event
On 09/11/2015 09:42 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote:
> From: Don North
> Basically see no problems accessing any of the pages on sites.
> ...
> 12: be2019.ccr21.lax04.atlas.cogentco.com 22.400ms asymm 8
> 13: no reply
> 14: no reply
> 15: ae0.cr1.mel4.on.ii.net 217
On 9/11/2015 7:46 AM, Lyle Bickley wrote:
On Thu, 10 Sep 2015 20:32:11 -0500
Jon Elson wrote:
Hello, all,
I am a member of the Homebuilt CPU web-ring, and a really
weird problem has turned up. The guy who administers the
ring, David Brooks, is in Australia, and uses iinet.net.au
as his ISP.
> On Sep 11, 2015, at 10:49 AM, Warner Losh wrote:
>
> ...
> I loved the PDP-11 architecture, until I wanted to run programs on it that
> relied on the overlay manager and the overlays got to be 8 or 9 deep. Then
> it was... painful.
Perhaps the program was too large. But it may just be that t
> On Sep 11, 2015, at 10:46 AM, Lyle Bickley wrote:
>
> On Thu, 10 Sep 2015 20:32:11 -0500
> Jon Elson wrote:
>
>> Hello, all,
>>
>> I am a member of the Homebuilt CPU web-ring, and a really
>> weird problem has turned up. The guy who administers the
>> ring, David Brooks, is in Australia,
On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 8:39 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
> On 2015-09-11 16:36, Noel Chiappa wrote:
>
>> > From: Jon Elson elson
>>
>> > I actually LIKED the PDP-11 architecture quite a LOT, but the
>> limited
>> > memory was a big killer.
>>
>> The good thing about the PDP-11 was
On Thu, 10 Sep 2015 20:32:11 -0500
Jon Elson wrote:
> Hello, all,
>
> I am a member of the Homebuilt CPU web-ring, and a really
> weird problem has turned up. The guy who administers the
> ring, David Brooks, is in Australia, and uses iinet.net.au
> as his ISP. All members of the web ring l
> From: Don North
> Basically see no problems accessing any of the pages on sites.
> ...
> 12: be2019.ccr21.lax04.atlas.cogentco.com 22.400ms asymm 8
> 13: no reply
> 14: no reply
> 15: ae0.cr1.mel4.on.ii.net 217.966ms asymm 19
Oh, that's really interesting. A bun
On 2015-09-11 16:36, Noel Chiappa wrote:
> From: Jon Elson elson
> I actually LIKED the PDP-11 architecture quite a LOT, but the limited
> memory was a big killer.
The good thing about the PDP-11 was the 16-bit word size. (It resulted in
what's probably the most elegant architect
> From: Jon Elson elson
> I actually LIKED the PDP-11 architecture quite a LOT, but the limited
> memory was a big killer.
The good thing about the PDP-11 was the 16-bit word size. (It resulted in
what's probably the most elegant architecture, in bang/buck terms, of all
time.) The bad
* Jon Elson [150910 21:32]:
[..SNIP..]
> So, I wonder if I can ask classiccmp members, especially in
> the US, to check if they can view this page:
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~daveb/simplex/simplex.html
>
> This is David Brooks' homebuilt 16-bit CPU.
>
> Please send me the results of your t
* Jon Elson [150910 21:32]:
[..SNIP..]
> So, I wonder if I can ask classiccmp members, especially in
> the US, to check if they can view this page:
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~daveb/simplex/simplex.html
>
> This is David Brooks' homebuilt 16-bit CPU.
>
> Please send me the results of your te
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~daveb/simplex/simplex.html
ETIMEDOUT.
members.iinet.net.au resolves to 203.0.178.90 for me. mtr shows
HostLoss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev
1. 98.124.61.89 0.0% 3821.1 1.5 0.7 123.1 7.2
2
On 09/10/2015 08:32 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
So, I wonder if I can ask classiccmp members, especially in the US, to
check if they can view this page:
http://members.iinet.net.au/~daveb/simplex/simplex.html
It works for me here (northern Minnesota)
Jules
Can you do a traceroute to members.iinet.net.au? In case DNS is blocked,
the IP address is 203.0.178.90. I've been on iiNet since they bought out
my previous ISP.
Here's a traceroute sample:
1 75-145-20-102-Washington.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (75.145.20.102)
0.554 ms 1.468 ms 1.878 ms
2 9
Ben wrote
What I find more annoying, is this cloud crap.
"There is no such thing as 'the cloud', it's just someone else's computer."
Love that quote... so true... and I sell cloud services ;)
J
On 11/09/2015 02:32, Jon Elson wrote:
So, I wonder if I can ask classiccmp members, especially in the US, to
check if they can view this page:
http://members.iinet.net.au/~daveb/simplex/simplex.html
Yes, I can (from York, UK, my ISP is Plusnet). Here's a traceroute:
1 cisco877 (x.x.x.x) 2.
On 9/10/2015 6:32 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
If you want to do some more research, just Google members.iinet and you will
see a lot of hits of the form:
http://members.iinet.net.au/~some_name
and see if you can access ANY of them. From both my home and work IP, I can
not get ANY of these pages to r
It was thus said that the Great Christian Kennedy once stated:
> On 9/10/15 18:32, Jon Elson wrote:
>
> > So, I wonder if I can ask classiccmp members, especially in the US, to
> > check if they can view this page:
> > http://members.iinet.net.au/~daveb/simplex/simplex.html
>
> DNS doesn't resolv
On 9/10/15 18:32, Jon Elson wrote:
> So, I wonder if I can ask classiccmp members, especially in the US, to
> check if they can view this page:
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~daveb/simplex/simplex.html
DNS doesn't resolve. A traceroute to 203.0.178.90 dies at:
14 be2017.ccr21.lax04.atlas.cog
ideo:
http://www.megaprocessor.com/Images/flashing_lights.mp4
Wow!
- Original Message -
From: "Jon Elson"
To: ;
"discuss...@classiccmp.org:On-Topic and Off-Topic
Posts"
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 1:04 AM
Subject: Re: internet blocking problem ?
On 09/10/2015 11:11
It didn't work for me ... just hangs infinitely at "Waiting for
members.iinet.net.au..." ... feels like packets just being dropped
outright. I am on Comast Business, SE MI, USA my packets seem to get as
far as Cogent in LA but then from there, nothing.
Incidentally, it seems to work okay from
> So, I wonder if I can ask classiccmp members, especially in
> the US, to check if they can view this page:
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~daveb/simplex/simplex.html
I have just viewed it (UK, Demon ISP). I've also checked, I can
download at least one of the schematics linked from that page
(I
On 09/10/2015 11:11 PM, Gary Oliver wrote:
FWIW I noticed this started several weeks ago - been
trying to get to look at current crop of home builts and
could not find a way to the web ring.
Here's the latest list out of the javascript file that one
of the ring members in Germany got me a cop
On 09/10/2015 11:11 PM, Gary Oliver wrote:
FWIW I noticed this started several weeks ago - been
trying to get to look at current crop of home builts and
could not find a way to the web ring. iinet.net.au is
reachable but not members.iinet.net.au
Yup, that is right, this all worked a couple
On 09/10/2015 11:10 PM, Alexis Kotlowy wrote:
Also, I'm talking to a network-oriented friend in Canada
who reckons it's iiNet who are blocking packets. I'd like
to know why! Alexis.
iinet has posted several blogs and position papers decrying
poorly thought out responses to intellectual propert
Oh, BTW, here's the traceroute for my (successful) access. Oregon,
again, but through Centurylink DSL:
traceroute to 203.0.178.90 (203.0.178.90), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
1 10.0.0.252 (10.0.0.252) 0.451 ms 0.392 ms 0.364 ms
2 192.168.0.1 (192.168.0.1) 5.304 ms 10.255 ms 14.160 ms
On 09/10/2015 10:38 PM, Alexis Kotlowy wrote:
On 11/09/2015 12:52 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
On 09/10/2015 09:07 PM, Alexis Kotlowy wrote:
Can you do a traceroute to members.iinet.net.au? In case
DNS is blocked, the IP address is 203.0.178.90. I've been
on iiNet since they bought out my previous ISP.
Same behaviour from comcast.com in Oregon (a cablemodem connection) as
well as from peakinternet.com (local isp.) Also have tried using one of
my AWS (amazon) virtuals and get the similar results.
comcast.com traceroute stops at:
be2017.ccr21.lax04.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.0.237)
my amazon
> On 11/09/2015 12:52 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
>
> I'm poking around with this service:
> http://www.cogentco.com/en/network/looking-glass
>
> Probing telstra.com (a major Australian telecommunications company) gets
> through, and even iinet.net.au gets through, but members.iinet.net.au
> stops as it
On Thu, 9/10/15, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove wrote:
> From a friend of mine on RoadRunner (I won't say where, but in the USA
> of course); their trace dies as it leaves the Cogent Communications
> network (since it bounces through a few of their servers before dying).
I'm seeing the same behavior f
On 11/09/2015 12:52 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
> On 09/10/2015 09:07 PM, Alexis Kotlowy wrote:
>> Can you do a traceroute to members.iinet.net.au? In case
>> DNS is blocked, the IP address is 203.0.178.90. I've been
>> on iiNet since they bought out my previous ISP. Cheers,
>> Alexis.
> Traceroute go
On 09/10/2015 09:54 PM, ben wrote:
Well it does not work in CANADA as of today.
WOW, this is new info!
It was working about a month ago, as I am designing a 8
bit cpu
on the DE1 FPGA PCB, and I was looking for ideas.
Can one get all the web pages mirrored, I hate this loss
information
with
On 09/10/2015 09:07 PM, Alexis Kotlowy wrote:
Can you do a traceroute to members.iinet.net.au? In case
DNS is blocked, the IP address is 203.0.178.90. I've been
on iiNet since they bought out my previous ISP. Cheers,
Alexis.
Traceroute goes out to 30 hops and stops, and I couldn't
figure out
I've forwarded this to a journo at The Register, and hopefully they'll
have a good poke at it.
Mike
On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
> Hello, all,
>
> I am a member of the Homebuilt CPU web-ring, and a really weird problem has
> turned up. The guy who administers the ring, Davi
On 10 September 2015 at 22:07, Alexis Kotlowy
wrote:
> iiNet have been outspoken about users' rights and privacy in the face of
> the War on Piracy. While they don't condone piracy, they have serious
> concerns about the way it's being dealt with (or at least that's my
> understanding).
>
> I get
On 9/10/2015 9:03 PM, jwsmobile wrote:
I am forwarding this to a friend in Australia for him to do more
extensive comment and diagnosis.
Try http://traceroute.org/ for diagnosing this. It allows you to
perform traceroute from cooperating servers across the world, including
australia.
there are
I am forwarding this to a friend in Australia for him to do more
extensive comment and diagnosis.
Try http://traceroute.org/ for diagnosing this. It allows you to
perform traceroute from cooperating servers across the world, including
australia.
there are some sites you will have to ferret
On 09/10/2015 06:32 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
Hello, all,
I am a member of the Homebuilt CPU web-ring, and a really weird
problem has turned up. The guy who administers the ring, David
Brooks, is in Australia, and uses iinet.net.au as his ISP. All
members of the web ring link to his personal web pa
On 9/10/2015 7:32 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
Hello, all,
I am a member of the Homebuilt CPU web-ring, and a really weird problem
has turned up. The guy who administers the ring, David Brooks, is in
Australia, and uses iinet.net.au as his ISP. All members of the web
ring link to his personal web page
On 11/09/2015 11:02 AM, Jon Elson wrote:
> Hello, all,
>
> I am a member of the Homebuilt CPU web-ring, and a really
> weird problem has turned up. The guy who administers the
> ring, David Brooks, is in Australia, and uses iinet.net.au
> as his ISP.
iiNet have been outspoken about users' rig
Hello, all,
I am a member of the Homebuilt CPU web-ring, and a really
weird problem has turned up. The guy who administers the
ring, David Brooks, is in Australia, and uses iinet.net.au
as his ISP. All members of the web ring link to his
personal web pages at iinet. Apparently, due to gover
70 matches
Mail list logo
